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Leopard : No 'Network' or Network shares in sidebar?
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Still no luck for me at all.
What the hell is going on. Tiger this just worked fine. I could go to Network, I'd see the work server and boom, I could use it.
Now, with Leopard, it's like the network doesn't exist. I can go online - the connectivity is there - but even after a clean install of leopard, no difference with the frickin' networking. .5.1 hasn't fixed it either.
If I knew an easy way to do it - I'd wind back to Tiger.
Doug
What the hell is going on. Tiger this just worked fine. I could go to Network, I'd see the work server and boom, I could use it.
Now, with Leopard, it's like the network doesn't exist. I can go online - the connectivity is there - but even after a clean install of leopard, no difference with the frickin' networking. .5.1 hasn't fixed it either.
If I knew an easy way to do it - I'd wind back to Tiger.
Doug
I've been having the disappearing Windows & Samba shares issue for weeks, have tried all of the tweaks mentioned here and elsewhere, and even spent hours with Apple support. No dice.
I had the same experience many have reported-- everything fine at first after upgrading to Leopard but now nothing but Macs visible on my network-- no Win boxes, Samba shares, not even Bonjour-enabled devices. NOTE: the few Tiger machines around the office have none of these issues, and none of the Leopard machines had these issues before upgrading. This is a prima facie bug....
Apple support had me run a little trace program they sent me. It created a TCPdump on my MBP while attempting to browse a mixed network and while using Samba to connect to a server via IP (smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). I then emailed this to them-- no word back yet.
I had the impression the tech was all too familiar with the issue
Hard to believe something as important as this didn't get addressed in 10.5.1. Heck, it's hard to believe a bug of this magnitude made it into a retail release at all.
I had the same experience many have reported-- everything fine at first after upgrading to Leopard but now nothing but Macs visible on my network-- no Win boxes, Samba shares, not even Bonjour-enabled devices. NOTE: the few Tiger machines around the office have none of these issues, and none of the Leopard machines had these issues before upgrading. This is a prima facie bug....
Apple support had me run a little trace program they sent me. It created a TCPdump on my MBP while attempting to browse a mixed network and while using Samba to connect to a server via IP (smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). I then emailed this to them-- no word back yet.
I had the impression the tech was all too familiar with the issue
Hard to believe something as important as this didn't get addressed in 10.5.1. Heck, it's hard to believe a bug of this magnitude made it into a retail release at all.
sudo pmset -c halfdim 0
Didn't work for you? If not try a pram reset and try the command again.
As for the sidebar problem I still can't get the mounted filesystems to show up like they should. Grrr
Just thought I'd chime in because the problem was solved for me----
I'd also like to mention that all of this WINS stuff makes absolutely no sense if you think about it, besides the fact that it's a silly solution to begin with. My PCs are on multiple workgroups and I can see them all in shares (after the fix), and everybody reporting the problem said shares worked fine for 10 minutes.. How could this be a workgroup issue if shares worked without configuring workgroups, even temporarily? That should automatically eliminate WINS as a possibility.
Also, the firewall fix only works because it fixes another problem that happens to have the same symptom (of hiding shares). The firewall fix will not work for everyone, only the people who don't have the real issue. Yes, the firewall does indeed filter your nmb packets (check appfirewall.log in Console.app) when it's on, but my firewall was completely off when this issue occured, and I never even touched it (I didn't even know where Firewall info was until I spotlighted it).
So onto the way it was fixed for me...
-------edit----------
I just wrote about a Security Update apple released that involved fixes to Samba.. I can confirm that it does NOT solve the problem.. unlike what I said in the original post.
I figured out how I managed to get my shares loading in Finder... In the pre-edited post, I described a quirk in the software update for the Security Update which managed to clear my network settings and cause my mac to forget which wifi network I usually connect to (only the wifi network, nothing else)... I was hoping that this wasn't the reason but rather that the fixes in the update did the job.. In the end, the security update did nothing. I rebooted after seeing my shares and they were gone when I came back.
The "solution" turns out to be that shares will show up whenever I manually join a network by clicking "Join other network" in the Airport menu and typing in my SSID-- granted, my SSID is hidden, so it doesnt show up in the list anyway-- but that's how I can get shares to load in the sidebar. I've done that consistently twice in two reboots, I'm pretty sure that the actions are correlated.
Now, that's not really a good solution, because that's extremely inconvenient.. I'm starting to think Leopard has issues with Wifi settings as mentioned in previous posts.. I wonder how I could just clear all network settings and start fresh (make Leopard forget all my wifi hotspots, passwords, etc..) Anyone know how to do that? I think that might do it for me... There must be some data it cached that's causing my shares not to show up...
I'd also like to mention that all of this WINS stuff makes absolutely no sense if you think about it, besides the fact that it's a silly solution to begin with. My PCs are on multiple workgroups and I can see them all in shares (after the fix), and everybody reporting the problem said shares worked fine for 10 minutes.. How could this be a workgroup issue if shares worked without configuring workgroups, even temporarily? That should automatically eliminate WINS as a possibility.
Also, the firewall fix only works because it fixes another problem that happens to have the same symptom (of hiding shares). The firewall fix will not work for everyone, only the people who don't have the real issue. Yes, the firewall does indeed filter your nmb packets (check appfirewall.log in Console.app) when it's on, but my firewall was completely off when this issue occured, and I never even touched it (I didn't even know where Firewall info was until I spotlighted it).
So onto the way it was fixed for me...
-------edit----------
I just wrote about a Security Update apple released that involved fixes to Samba.. I can confirm that it does NOT solve the problem.. unlike what I said in the original post.
I figured out how I managed to get my shares loading in Finder... In the pre-edited post, I described a quirk in the software update for the Security Update which managed to clear my network settings and cause my mac to forget which wifi network I usually connect to (only the wifi network, nothing else)... I was hoping that this wasn't the reason but rather that the fixes in the update did the job.. In the end, the security update did nothing. I rebooted after seeing my shares and they were gone when I came back.
The "solution" turns out to be that shares will show up whenever I manually join a network by clicking "Join other network" in the Airport menu and typing in my SSID-- granted, my SSID is hidden, so it doesnt show up in the list anyway-- but that's how I can get shares to load in the sidebar. I've done that consistently twice in two reboots, I'm pretty sure that the actions are correlated.
Now, that's not really a good solution, because that's extremely inconvenient.. I'm starting to think Leopard has issues with Wifi settings as mentioned in previous posts.. I wonder how I could just clear all network settings and start fresh (make Leopard forget all my wifi hotspots, passwords, etc..) Anyone know how to do that? I think that might do it for me... There must be some data it cached that's causing my shares not to show up...
I used the info on this link to solve this issue:
http://www.youbitch.org/blog/2007/nov/11/note-to-self-missing-shared-in-leopard-sidebar/
So far it seems to work fine for me.
http://www.youbitch.org/blog/2007/nov/11/note-to-self-missing-shared-in-leopard-sidebar/
So far it seems to work fine for me.
That worked perfectly. I did a `killall Finder` to hasten the "waiting" part after restarting smb
edit:
The killall Finder part seems to be necessary for me, and I have to do it on every reboot
Not sure why you would have to do it on every reboot. I just did what the page said to do and it's been working fine since I posted that message.
Thought I'd bump this - anyone found a solution/workaround? I'm sitting as the only Mac on a LAN with 2 Windows PCs, both of which have public shares, and only one of which is showing up in my sidebar. Yay for the random nature of it all.
Even better, anyone heard anything about a fix in 10.5.2?
Even better, anyone heard anything about a fix in 10.5.2?
bump
I'm looking for a fix as well. I find this to be a sign that Apple is more concerned with reducing the "number of bugs" (admitted) than fixing them.... grrrrr...
When I connect via Hamachi to my brother 300 miles away, he can see me and he can see his Ubuntu box, but I can't see either.... arghhh.
Please Apple, fix your damn software.
I'm looking for a fix as well. I find this to be a sign that Apple is more concerned with reducing the "number of bugs" (admitted) than fixing them.... grrrrr...
When I connect via Hamachi to my brother 300 miles away, he can see me and he can see his Ubuntu box, but I can't see either.... arghhh.
Please Apple, fix your damn software.
I still had to allow all incoming connections in Firewall before having Shared come up in Finder. My MacBook was on several hours before I did this.
I say this is still an issue.
I say this is still an issue.
This is REALLY frustrating. With so many people having this issue, you would think it would be fixed. Apparently it is worse then we think, there appear to be MANY reasons this is happening. There are dozens(?) of "fixes" out there. Some work for some, not others. I've tried several and can't get the fix. I had this working on 10.5.0 and it broke with 10.5.1. I was hoping for a fix in 10.5.2, but I've been disappointed.
has everyone tried these steps to get their shared Macs/PCs shown in the Finder sidebar?
for shared Mac computers.
- turn File Sharing on and tick "Share files and folders using AFP".
- edit smb.conf as per this page.
for PC shares.
- enter or re-enter your windows workgroup name into the WINS settings (type WINS in system preferences search)
turn File Sharing on and tick "Share files and folders using SMB" in Options and tick you username (if you want).
- edit smb.conf as per this page.
- in Windows make sure "Allow network users to change files" is checked in sharing properties for the shared folder
- in Windows make sure File Sharing is enabled in the firewall.
this is what i have done and my PC shows under Shared in the Finder sidebar about a minute after i wake/turn it on. also my Mac's firewall is set to "Set access for specific services and applications"
for shared Mac computers.
- turn File Sharing on and tick "Share files and folders using AFP".
- edit smb.conf as per this page.
for PC shares.
- enter or re-enter your windows workgroup name into the WINS settings (type WINS in system preferences search)
turn File Sharing on and tick "Share files and folders using SMB" in Options and tick you username (if you want).
- edit smb.conf as per this page.
- in Windows make sure "Allow network users to change files" is checked in sharing properties for the shared folder
- in Windows make sure File Sharing is enabled in the firewall.
this is what i have done and my PC shows under Shared in the Finder sidebar about a minute after i wake/turn it on. also my Mac's firewall is set to "Set access for specific services and applications"
Mine worked all day yesterday and today, I'm back to not working. Sure, If i restart the mac or the windows server, the share will "usually" show up. But after awhile (2 minutes to 2 hours) the share will again disappear.
Yes, I've tried the all of the other "fixes" listed on this post.
So we wait till 10.5.3...?
Why would one need to enable File Sharing to see other computers on the network? That seems silly. With Firewall disabled and File Sharing disabled, I can see computers. Maybe the Windows DC is doing something.
It is also interesting the one would need to modify the /etc/smb.conf file when the directions don't say enable "Share files and folders using SMB"
ok i didnt edit smb.conf but i added it as its seemed to be a fix for some. i have however configured everything else this way and my PC is showing under Shared. it disappears when the PC sleeps and appears a minute after waking. so i must be doing something right eh?
I dont have smb running on my sistem so I didn't follow the instructions on the page provided.
What I've noticed is that finder itself is the problem. So I just either log out or kill the finder. And the problem magically goes away.