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That’s really interesting about the jittery text. I noticed that as well but thought it was due to a brain injury which makes me hypersensitive to things like the flicker of fluorescent lights.
According to a thread around here somewhere, those of us prone to migraines will be affected, and some people who never had a migraine before ended up diagnosed with migraines as a result of difficulty with the pwm display.
 
I love OLED's true black, but I'm hoping a viable panel technology successor emerges soon. OLED is inherently vulnerable to a few problems that are disappointing to encounter on a device in iPhone X's price range, such as burn-in, poor near-black uniformity, black crush, and black smear. Improvements have come at a snail's pace, even on top-of-the-line OLED televisions.
Yep, and don’t forget about the migraine inducing flicker, the inability to display true white, color shifting, and ghosting. The negatives far outweigh the one, or two, positives.

Also, I won’t ever again touch a phone with a notch. And if this news of going to an even poorer quality display is true, more proof bean counter Tim is sabotaging the company.
 
It probably just me, but I don't really see any big difference between the OLED and LCD. Maybe because I don't watch too much video/movie on my iPhone? :D
 
Thats why I always laugh at the "Samsung made the display in your iPhone ner! ner!" - Apple designed the custom display, Samsung used their factory machinery to manufacture the Apple designed display.

There's zero evidence (and it makes no sense) that Apple did any OLED design work. In fact, Apple themselves have only said that they worked hard on calibration and specified high quality output from Samsung.
 
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LG's OLED TV's are incredible. As for the iPhone X display, it will be a custom Apple designed display manufactured by LG.

Thats why I always laugh at the "Samsung made the display in your iPhone ner! ner!" - Apple designed the custom display, Samsung used their factory machinery to manufacture the Apple designed display.

Apple has no skin in the OLED game. Without the work that Samsung/LG/etc have done they wouldn't have an OLED display to use, period. They designed some of the ICs that control the tech, that's it.
 
There's zero evidence (and it makes no sense) that Apple did any OLED design work. In fact, Apple themselves have only said that they worked hard on calibration and specified high quality output from Samsung.



I was skeptical too. Then I started reading about how to do this. One trick is to avoid full charging and discharging. In other words, use the middle charge of a battery. This limits the full cycles being used, and extends the retention rate to a very long time. Apparently some electric vehicles use the same trick.

Well there is maybe SOME evidence. http://appleinsider.com/articles/18...-to-burn-in-images-than-samsung-galaxy-note-8

Seems weird that Apple would do so much better than Samsung.
 
I wonder if the notch will remain the same proportion (as in your mock-up) or if they will keep it exactly the same size as the X (so proportionally smaller on a Plus model)?
I would have to believe Apple wil be using the same FaceID component so the answer would be the notch will look proportionally smaller on a Plus model.
 
Bad move on apple here....Will have a lot of returns on the plus size..
 
Hmm well my Nexus 5 LG screen is one of the best (LCD) panels I’ve used!
But I do believe their rep for mobile OLED panels isn’t very good, does the One Plus 5 use an LG panel because that is a great screen!
One plus 5 is not using a LG screen it's using a Samsung screen
 
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If they release a 6.5 model, that's the definite end of the iPad Mini, no?
The only way the mini line would survive would be if Apple decided to release a redesigned one with the iPhone X body/FaceID alongside a new 10.5” version. That would probably increase the screen size to about 9” from the current 7.9”. Unless they could reduce the size of the current 10.5” iPad Pro using the new body so it’s close enough to the current iPad mini 4. I suppose that would work too for current iPad mini owners, maybe even better with the larger screen size.
 
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If they release a 6.5 model, that's the definite end of the iPad Mini, no?

No. The mini will live or die on it's own sales numbers, not because Apple makes an analogous iPhone. Apple has never used that as a criteria for whether to keep a device. If that were the case then Apple would have K.O.d all iPods a long time ago. Most kids not old enough to have a phone have a iPad mini or a Touch. Now whether Apple will bother to update the mini is a different question. But, of late, Apple has been increasing SKUs, not consolidating. So we'll either see a big price cut on the mini to $299 or Apple will update it to justify the current MSRP. I don't think it will be EOL'd this year.
 
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I do agree about the brightness, but thats not OLED's fault thats just apples decision about the X. Samsung S8 has ~1000 nits and note 8 has 1200 nits on OLED (twice the amount of X). iphone x has ~625 nits. I bet (hope) Apple will increase nits on next gen devices.
Did Apple have Samsung reduce the nits due to burn-in/longevity concerns? That’s the only reason I could see Apple doing this, trying this as some preemptive, perhaps too aggressive mitigation tactic. Anyway, I would never set my iPhone anywhere close to full brightness.
 
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I'm about curious to see how LG produces it for Apple hopefully it won't end up like the Pixel 2 but OLED does run pretty well on iPhone X without any issues so I'm thinking it won't have any problem with OLED displays from LG
 
More LG vs. Samsung “lottery” talk incoming. In the past, usually getting a Samsung panel was considered “winning” that lottery.
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I'm about curious to see how LG produces it for Apple hopefully it won't end up like the Pixel 2 but OLED does run pretty well on iPhone X without any issues so I'm thinking it won't have any problem with OLED displays from LG
With LG, don’t be too sure. Their premium TVs with OLED have been good, smaller OLED panels on the other hand...
 
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maybe this partnership with LG can lead to an Apple monitor or TV
I agree, I hope to see at least an actual Apple Flat screen tv or even more products inspired by LG like photography cameras and many others to come
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With LG, don’t be too sure.
I mean iPhone resolution is always on point so it shouldn't have as much of a big issue like the Pixel 2 but we'll have to wait and see what happens next
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The only way the mini line would survive would be if Apple decided to release a redesigned one with the iPhone X body/FaceID alongside a new 10.5” version. That would probably increase the screen size to about 9” from the current 7.9”. Unless they could reduce the size of the current 10.5” iPad Pro using the new body so it’s close enough to the current iPad mini 4. I suppose that would work too for current iPad mini owners, maybe even better with the larger screen size.
I forgot the iPad Mini is still available on Apple's website well the 4th generation
 
Well...pixel 2 xl had a burn-in issue that was supplied by lg.

There were many reports of this. I suspect this rumor to be accurate. OLED is susceptible to some burn in, but Apples calibration and tuning with their displays has always been consistent. Should be interesting to see the side by side comparisons between the LG and Samsung OLED panels in 2018 for the iPhone X.
 
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Pixel 2 XL V2 incoming...
Yep. Unless LG has overhauled it's production process, the next iPhone will have a serious blue tint.

Not good, ya'll will see. It's bad. Apple will have a mutiny on it's hands if they go LG in it's current OLED state.
 
Think Qualcomm vs Intel for LTE chips. One is much better than the other but the other is much cheaper and not from a company Apple hates having to do business with.

Yeah, but with LTE modems you can't really fail.
Maximum speed of 1 Gbit, 600 Mbit, 1.2 Gbit, 800 Mbit... who cares?
The modems support more than double the speed you will ever see in real life during the lifetime of your phone and more than quadruple the speed you will ever be able to notice.
 
if they're the exclusive X plus supplier, X will be superior

Pixel 2 (samsung) vs Pixel 2 XL (LG) all over again
 
This makes me nervous, but presumably they have demonstrated to Apple that they won’t end up in a pixel 2 xl situation. If this story is even true.

Don’t know why you’d be nervous. LG, like all component manufacturers, would be constantly trying to improve their products. Current LG phone screens may not be the best, but that doesn’t mean all future screens will be the same.

I’m quite sure Apple would only use LG if they’re able to produce screens that meet their requirements.
 
The X is bulky for the “smaller sized” iPhone. Can’t imagine what the Plus is going to feel like. No Ma’am!!
 
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