That's fair.
Samsung will have to join the oled tv game asap.
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LG Display Could Supply OLED Displays for This Year's 'iPhone X Plus'
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Samsung will have to join the oled tv game asap.
Samsung was already in the OLED TV game and lasted only a year. They got out because their way of producing large OLED panels yielded poor results. LG is so far ahead in producing large OLED panels that Samsung will never catch up and that is why Samsung are trying to confuse consumers with the QLED nonsense.
Display quality has absolutely nothing to do with brightness. That's an independent variable.
Apparently current pixel 2xl models are unaffected by those issues, or at least the issue is greatly reduced to the point where it doesn't matter. That's just a comparison I've seen by a user that recently bought a new one and compared it to a launch model, so make of it what you will, but he either got lucky or lg fixed the issue.
I really don’ t notice that. I think it is rather bright. Much brighter than previous iphones.
I hope they do get back in it. LG OLEDs are very nice indeed. They do, however, still have some very noticeable issues. My set in 2016 had pretty severe vignetting. My 2 sets from 2017 have yellowing (left side of the screen on white) and banding on near gray content. I am overall pretty happy with them. Would be even happier without the yellowing. Also competition is good.
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I think they are still affected. Every one I've seen in person has blue tint issues. The 2 I had certainly did. One of them had a thin line through the display and both had some slight banding. I am happily on the Pixel 2 now.
Apple did invest in LG to make a new fab/production line, and since they did not use a samsung reference design for the iphone x, it is all about the quality of the manufacturing process and not up to which design/technique lg uses now.
My guess is that LG will be manufacturing an oled display for the x plus according to the same principles/tech/patents that samsung uses for the current x instead of the designed by LG pixel 2 screen.
So big differences? I don’ t think so. It is all about the yields and the quality of the new machines.
My guess is that LG will be manufacturing an oled display for the x plus according to the same principles/tech/patents that samsung uses for the current x instead of the designed by LG pixel 2 screen.
So big differences? I don’ t think so. It is all about the yields and the quality of the new machines.
You are perfectly right, my bad. I read one review on a news site, and i can see after checking displaymate that the dudes on the news page only compared the "peak brightness on portion of the screen", which i assume does not make sense in day to day usage, there the "full screen brightness" would make more sense.
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I think yes, as i was informed the peak brightness where samsung wins is only "portion" of the screen, so maybe Apple did indeed lower that peak brightness (as it also doesnt make sense to have a really bright part of the screen?) to prevent burnin. i think you are right about this, maybe apple was just smarter to have a upper limit on nits to prevent damage to the screen with long term use, but still keeping a nice bright full screen experience
No, they used current LG production lines and used the same tech/patents lg used in the v30. Both have issues.
If apple will have lg manufacture pentile oleds to the same spec as they did samsung, it all depends of the quality of the manufacturing process lg uses.
If the X Plus comes out, the X will be the largest “small” iPhone ever made. Call it what you will. I call it bulky.
Compared it side by side? The n=1 I have looked at is demonstrably dimmer than a 6+, 6s+, and 7+. The nature of the display is different certainly, but it’s definitely not as bright.
They’re all 625 cd/m2 (this generation). iPhone 7 was around 705. So X is a bit dimmer than last generation. iPhone 6 was 500 cd/m2.
Of course, having different screen sizes (m2) will affect how your mind perceives brightness, too.
Sounds like an issue with that unit
iPhone X is far brighter than any previous iPhone and by some distance.
Whether the LG panels are truly up to Apple's standards or not they don't really have a choice but to use them. You can't sell a device you can't make, and right now Apple depends entirely on its direct competition to supply the panels in the vast numbers they will need for these X models. It's an interesting predicament that Apple is in when it comes to the sourcing some of their important components.
Based on apple’s own reported specs the X is less bright than the iPhone 7. 625 cd/m2 vs 705.
They iPhone X has a brighter screen than the Note 8 when using full screen brightness. Tested and verified.
Check your facts because you’re quoting localized brightness which is small parts of the screen.
That report has been often misread, greatly because it presented info in a very disjointed way, and people don’t understand all the measurements.
For example, the “full screen brightness” measurement only applies to a useless all-white display.
It’s measured with auto-brightness on, which on the Note increases the brightness far beyond all the other measurements (which are at manual settings).
It also depends on the average picture level (APL), which at a low amount is the “small parts” mentioned on the report. The higher the APL, the lower the brightness.
Going from low to high APL, the X gives about 804-603 nits. For apps like Safari at 80% APL, that works out to be about 665 nits.
Going from low to high APL, the Note 8 gives about 1250-560 nits. For apps like Chrome or the phone at 80% APL, that works out to be about 688 nits.
So in real life usage, they’re about the same.
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People see the nits numbers high level and think the Note screen is twice as bright. Wrong.
Correct. But people also read that the Note's highest nits is "only for a small part of the screen" and then mistakenly think that means it's not also pretty bright for larger parts.
But it is.
[doublepost=1515354367][/doublepost]Let’s hope this isn’t true. Their phone PLED’s suck big time. They are at least 3 generations behind Samsung. They truly look horrible.
LG Display saw its shares surge to a one-month high on Wednesday following a report that the company will begin supplying OLED panels to Apple's new range of iPhones this year (via Financial Times).
LG's stock rallied on an Electronic Times report that the South Korean firm would make over 15 million OLED panels for Apple's 2018 range of iPhones. LG is already a supplier of LCD panels, currently used in the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, but Samsung dominates supply of OLED displays for Apple's flagship iPhone X. Indeed, last week LG Display revealed in a regulatory filing that it didn't supply any of the OLED panels currently used in the iPhone X.
However, that could change this year, since Apple is expected to launch two new 5.8-inch and 6.5-inch iPhone models with OLED displays in 2018. According to today's report, LG Display will supply Apple with the 6.5-inch OLED panels, while Samsung will supply the 5.8-inch or 6-inch OLED panels.
Reports have been trickling out since July 2017 that Apple has invested billions of dollars in LG's OLED production capability for smartphones, but the fruits of its investment were thought to be some ways off. LG was initially reported to have secured 45,000 panels per month for future iPhones from 2019, while as recently as September it was suggested that Apple would have to wait until at least next year before it could move beyond Samsung for significant supplies of OLED panels. However, Wednesday's report suggests LG could secure its position as the number two supplier of OLED screens for Apple's iPhones as early as the second half of 2018. LG is said to be planning to mass-produce the panels for Apple at its Gen 6 flexible OLED production line located in Paju, South Korea.
LG came in for scrutiny recently after it emerged that the firm supplied Google with the Pixel 2 XL's OLED displays, some of which were reportedly prone to screen burn-in or image retention issues. It remains unclear whether the problems stemmed from LG or other factors were involved, although the smaller Pixel 2 and original Pixel phones - both with Samsung-supplied OLED displays - have experienced far fewer issues. It's also worth noting that Apple says OLED displays can show "slight visual changes" after extended long-term use and minor screen burn-in is considered normal.
The new iPhone X and iPhone X Plus will likely launch around the usual timeframe of September to October, potentially alongside a new 6.1-inch mid-range model with an LCD display.
Article Link: LG Display Could Supply OLED Displays for This Year's 'iPhone X Plus'
Check your own facts before quoting, or, at least, read through the forum. (or look bit up on this page..)
jeez
Meanwhile, Samsung is presenting 146" MicroLed TV .
https://www.techhive.com/article/3243052/ces/samsungs-wall-tv-first-to-use-micro-led-technology.html
https://www.techhive.com/article/3243052/ces/samsungs-wall-tv-first-to-use-micro-led-technology.html