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Lion Clean Install Requires Snow Leopard Disk?

handywipes said:
Ok so I been updating to all developer P.. and on 4 I wanted to install only Lion but couldn't so what i did to only having lion was

1.Format your drive for 2 partitions
2.Install SL on the 2 partition --untitled 2
3,Install Lion on partition 1
4.Boot to Lion
5.Open Disk Utility
6.Delete SL and then drag the first Partition Down

There it is if Lion is Your second partition you will lose whatever space you had on it

Good luck still buggy like ios5
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That's not a good idea, because it forces you to have two partitions in your boot drive. Some people might want just one.

The creation of bootable Lion dvd/usb stick makes much more sense since it uses only a DVD or stick, and doesn't touch your actual boot drive.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
The sense of entitlement is astounding. Remember, SL + Lion combined is still cheaper than the cost of any single windows OS. How can people complain? Would you prefer to have prices like Windows does but that doesn't require SL? Think of SL as susidizing Lion, just like your Carriers subsidize the price of your phones. Seriously...
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I have an Audi Q5 I am selling, but to buy it you also have to buy my A7.

Entitlement? Are you really that serious? This is gimmick it's double dipping on a lot of consumers who chose not to upgrade to SL. It's not the outraged consumers who have the entitlement problem here.

This is the final straw for me as a Mac user on a personal level. We make a very good income from producing iOS applications, but let's get real here everything about this company is pay to play.

Microsoft treats us a whole hell of a lot better than Apple does in development and licensing terms. We have Visual Studio 2010 running on machines that are seven years old with XP to our present i7 machines. In Apple land if you want a new version of Xcode and it's between a new OS X release you get double dipped again.

I would rather pay $500 and know what I am getting and know it has a long life cycle than pay $30 and be hanging out with my #### in the wind not knowing what to expect next.
 
it would be nice

if you got both included with your new Mac for the foreseeable future.

Barring this, someone mentioned USB sales of Snow Leopard would be very helpful.

I'm thinking about buying another Mac for school as the iPad cannot provide the same as a full system on the go. I'm really thinking I should do this while Snow Leopard are still loaded onto the machines. And rereading this, what is the point of releasing Lion now when it is still dependent on SL as far as clean installs?
 
miografico said:
I rather pay $500 and know what I am getting and know it has a long life cycle than pay $30 and be hanging out with my #### in the wind not knowing what to expect next.
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That I respect. That is a reasonable reason to jump ship if you feel that way.
 
I know this comment may go unnoticed or has already been brought up, Lion creates a recovery partition. You can use Disk Utility to put this partition on a USB stick.
 
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ivladster said:
Still easier than Windows 7
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Not by much considering that my main reason for getting Lion is to get some of the features that Windows 7 already has like windows resized from any corner or side and folder to folder drag and drop that doesn't automatically erase files found in the old folder that are not also in the new.

As this apparent countdown to the new Apple closed system continues I may end up doing work in Windows 7 and fiddling in Mac OS. Windows' main failings are ease of setup and lack smoothly integrated mail/photos/movies apps. And those ugly blue colors. As an OS it's faster and more responsive on my both Mac Pro and my mini than SL.
 
This may be a bit off topic. But, I bought my first apple computer last year. Bootcamped Windows on it and used W7 for most of the past year. Love the hardware. Have been using OSX pretty exclusively for about a month now. I really do like a lot of things about the operating system.

That's my background. Now what I have to say is this. I have been hanging around these forums for the past two years. If the emails that I have read here, that are purportedly from Jobs, are in fact from Jobs.... he is a major prick. I'm not sure why so may worship him. But, from what I see, he is one of the only bad things about the company.
 
everyone complained when the cool new imacs shipped with no floppy drive at all... OMG! no more apple products! oh, wait! let´s buy a zip drive!!

Oh, no serial port! no modem port!!!

nah, the only thing i miss is the backlight keyboard on the MBA...:)
 
djcraze said:
I know this comment may go unnoticed or has already been brought up, Lion creates a recovery partition. You can use Disk Utility to put this partition on a USB stick.
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right. end of this pointless argument. :)
 
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PVguy said:
"Rather than burn your own recovery to make clean installs, you are willing to pay more for the competition's os and leave the Apple ecosystem?"

The competition's OS is free (Linux variant of choice). Apple's ecosystem is increasingly oriented to I-gadgets I don't have.

In 2002 I bought a top of the line Mac Quicksilver. In 2009 I replaced that with a bottom of the line Mac mini. In 201x, well, we will see.
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heh... interesting you should say that. I've been doing the exact same thing, and now am considering a Latitude for my next laptop purchase.
 
mariov said:
right. end of this pointless argument. :)
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The argument is not pointless. Some of us like optical media. I like buying music CDs for their superior sound, lack of hardware limitations and secure, factory-made hard copy. I like DVDs and DVD/BR Combo packs for the same reason. I would much rather buy a DVD and be able to use it where I want than to get a (barely) HD iTunes Store download that costs more than a DVD.

Maybe there are a bunch like me, maybe not. We're not talking about a popularity contest here, just what each individual user likes. While it seems like Microsoft often does things as if it's actually working for Apple the reverse seems to be true this week.
 
I predict:

- new Macs shipping with Lion will have it pre-installed, along with a recovery partition (which, btw, is 650MB, not 4GB). They will also have physical media for recovery, locked to the model of Mac. This *might* be USB, like the Air.

- GM version of Lion will have a simple option to burn a boot disc or create a bootable USB stick, for those upgrading from Snow Leopard. It might even prompt you to do so when you first boot.
 
mungler said:
I predict:

- new Macs shipping with Lion will have it pre-installed, along with a recovery partition (which, btw, is 650MB, not 4GB). They will also have physical media for recovery, locked to the model of Mac. This *might* be USB, like the Air.

- GM version of Lion will have a simple option to burn a boot disc or create a bootable USB stick, for those upgrading from Snow Leopard. It might even prompt you to do so when you first boot.
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I predict that the recovery partition will replace physical media shipped with macs, and the GM will not be any different than it is now. I hope you are right, though.
 
Taank said:
This may be a bit off topic. But, I bought my first apple computer last year. Bootcamped Windows on it and used W7 for most of the past year. Love the hardware. Have been using OSX pretty exclusively for about a month now. I really do like a lot of things about the operating system.

That's my background. Now what I have to say is this. I have been hanging around these forums for the past two years. If the emails that I have read here, that are purportedly from Jobs, are in fact from Jobs.... he is a major prick. I'm not sure why so may worship him. But, from what I see, he is one of the only bad things about the company.
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Thank "one of the only bad things about the company" for your "Apple computer" and OS X, which you've been using exclusively. He's kinda responsible for all that. Add to that Apple's current value and about $70 billion in cash. Add e that the iPad, iPhone, iTunes . . . you get the idea.

We like Steve Jobs because Apple consistently makes far and away the best products in consumer tech. I don't know about "worship", but the man knows his stuff. From near-bankruptcy to the most valuable company in tech, in around only ten years.

He can be the biggest prick on earth as long as he keeps rolling out the Apple gear. Because that's all that really matters. More great Apple stuff. If that's taken care of he can bark like a dog and do cartwheels for all anyone cares. And I speak for the majority of consumers when I say this. Unequivocally.
 
doctor-don said:
And, as the question poised, what does one do when the hard drive fails completely?

Download Lion AGAIN?
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If you read the comment to which your quote was responding, then you would realize that with Lion on a usb stick there is no need to download it again if the HDD dies. If the HDD dies and the USB on the computer dies, that's another story, but how much redundancy is reasonably expected?
 
Cougarcat said:
I predict that the recovery partition will replace physical media shipped with macs, and the GM will not be any different than it is now. I hope you are right, though.
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I don't think they'll ship the mac without any means of recovering if your HD is damaged. That doesn't make sense. They will have to either put a USB stick with the new macs, or they'll make it known how to create your bootable install DVD.
 
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