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Lion Launches Tomorrow On Mac App Store

iSayuSay said:
What do you think about Lion updates? Would Apple still release combo or update like they do with previous gen OSX? Or will us have to download 4GB all over again for updates? You know once an apps on MAS or iTunes store being updated, we just have to download the apps all over again, not like we only download only the patch or something.

Will the same thing happens to Lion, as Lion can be considered as an "app" from Mac AppStore?
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One of the features of the Mac App store in Lion is "delta updates" meaning only the changed parts need to be downloaded.
 
squirrelist said:
One of the features of the Mac App store in Lion is "delta updates" meaning only the changed parts need to be downloaded.
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You mean that Apple has "innovated" something that was in Digital's VMS operating system in 1978?

They are truly geniuses. Unless, Apple are lazy and the "delta update" is "files that have changed", and not "bytes in files that have changed".

Of course, in 1978 a 9.6 Kbps network connection was pretty good, and 64 Kibps was amazing. At that time, only shipping the changed bytes within files was a big win.
 
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I'm on 10.5 leopard. Is there any way I can upgrade to lion without going to snow leopard? If not, then I'll be spending $60 tomorrow ;(
 
Eidorian said:
I should pick up another flash drive or two. I have my "huge" 8 GB one devoted to my Windows 7 installer image.

Then again I might be reverted to Slow Leopard.
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Is that for a PC or for bootcamp on your Mac? I thought you couldn't install Windows bootcamp off a USB flash drive?
 
I wonder how Lion will effect boot camp, and rEFIt on my machine. Hopefully it won't screw them up from any bugs.
 
"secure erase" on an SSD is a GOOD idea

Chupa Chupa said:
Yes, but if YOU are going to reuse the drive there is no reason to waste time doing a secure erase.
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Not so.

"Secure erase" on an SSD is equivalent to a "TRIM entire drive". It doesn't take a lot of time (no need to do multiple writes with different patterns), and sets the drive to "factory new" state with all pages pre-erased for rapid writing.

In particular, if you're upgrading from an OS without TRIM support to one with TRIM support, a clean install with a secure erase ensures full performance from your SSD.

(As a nearly equal alternative, after installing the OS with TRIM support, you can create a temp file that fills all free space on the drive. Then delete that file, and the OS will issue TRIM commands that will mark all of its sectors as unused. This won't be quite as good as a secure erase, because some pages will have a mix of in-use and free sectors. Only pages where all sectors have been TRIM'ed will be pre-erased and put on the free list.)
 
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Aussie

So, if should be around 3pm or 5pm, for us here in Australia, by the time we get Lion today.
 
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I'm on 10.5 leopard. Is there any way I can upgrade to lion without going to snow leopard? If not, then I'll be spending $60 tomorrow ;(
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But you will need to goto a brick and mortar to purchase SL.
 
purush said:
For those of you who plan to do a clean install of Lion: It is correct that you can burn a DVD from the downloaded image of Lion and boot from the DVD. But the installer will not let you install Lion on an empty, reformatted HD. If you try the installer will give the message that it can't find Snow Leopard.
So the only way to do a clean install is to first install Snow Leopard and then install Lion.
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Who says that? Unless you somehow already downloaded Lion Retail Version, you are not telling the truth. People have done that with Lion GM and they haven't had any problem...
 
Eidorian said:
It is not for my Macs and I have not tried rEFIt.
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Cool, thanks. I wonder if Lion fixes this in Bootcamp and allows for USB installation? Actually, I haven't heard anything on that, but I always wonder why this isn't possible on SL.
 
squirrelist said:
This method requires the OS to be downloaded again with your Apple ID, which it does completely seamlessly in the background. I mention this only in case you have a really slow/expensive connection.
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This is highly misleading. The "downloading" that is done during the installation from the installer app isn't a real download. I installed Lion on an external and it claimed it was "downloading" whatever it is that it needed, but I wasn't even connected to the internet and everything was installed without a hitch (no Apple ID required). I think they mean you need to download the files from the recovery partition to the main partition when it does that.
 
Yup, here comes lion.

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belvdr said:
You shouldn't have installed it illegally to begin with. Unfortunately, unless a developer here wishes to be ultra nice and help you get out of your not-so-legit status, you'll be installing SL and upgrading.
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Your response to his honest question is annoying. I hope you don't do this in real life, because I would not want to associate with you.
 
Icaras said:
Cool, thanks. I wonder if Lion fixes this in Bootcamp and allows for USB installation? Actually, I haven't heard anything on that, but I always wonder why this isn't possible on SL.
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It's not an SL issue. It's the EFI firmware that doesn't like to boot "legacy" OSes from USB.

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