List: MR Members Waiting To Buy A New MacBook Pro

[DoFoT9]

If they do increase the VRAM then i'll cancel my Macpro order right away!

haha would you???

id love to have a desktop and laptop...i have my mbp atm, and its so awsome. but i dont like leaving it on 24/7 which is what i do, its never ever turned off even when i sleep. so i just need a desktop (even a mini) to prolong the lappy by just that little bit.

 

[tothelimit]

(im)patiently awaiting the update (15" to be exact).

 

[jpb0104]

Put me on this list. Will order as soon as they're announced. Said I'd wait till Leopard and buy but Leopard works great on my PB. Can't wait for the new MBPs.

 

[Cybergypsy]

Have the Air, no pro here I do hope it will look like the Air.....

 

[Stridder44]

Thought this was interesting. Reliable or not, it seemed to be the best (rumored) explanation. Found this posted on this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4968640#post4968640

OK, before I post this, please be advised that I have just as much disdain for unsubstantiated rumors as the next person. Having served in the military, I know that loose lips sink ships. I have yet to find anything about the upcoming MPB release that I find credible, including Hardmac, or various other sites who post one or two lines sighting a so called source. I bounce back and forth between here and the apple insider forums and have observed a member over there called tailpipe (Joined Aug 07) make two posts over the pasts couple weeks that I find interesting. Take it as you will, believe it or not, it is entirely up to you. For me, this is the best and most believable discussion I have heard thus far about the new MPBs release. Even if it is not true, it still is a good read.

His first post was on 02-01-2008 @ 11:12 AM:

"This info comes to you from London via an Englishman working at Apple, (and there are more than you think ;-))

A revised MacBook Pro with a Leopard 10.5.2 update was meant to debut at MacWorld but neither was ready.

The delay for the MBP was caused by Intel Penryn processors not being available due to some production glitch. As we all know, Apple doesn't like to announce products too far ahead of their shipping dates - with the notable exception of the iPhone - so decided to delay the launch. Penryn-based PCs now good to go and begin shipping Monday.

Expect new MBP 15-inch and 17-inch within two weeks. 17-inch gets LED.
New MBP DOES feature a slightly revised case design with the new black keyboard from MBA and a larger trackpad, but is basically very similar to existing design. Think evolution not revolution.

The idea is to achieve a commonality of look across the range.
SSD will be an option offering an exceptionally fast boot time < 30 seconds.
Also seen lurking in the corridors of Cupertino was an aluminum MacBook 13". Initially available in silver, my source reckons anodized black, blue, pink and other colours will be available around September. New MacBooks will be a big story later this year. One of the range (I don't know which, maybe the black one) will have a superior spec that basically makes it a MacBook Pro 13"."

Reference: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=83903

His second post was today, @ 11:17 AM

"The all new MacBook Pro was meant to make its debut at MacWorld in January. The big story was meant to be that while 2007 was all about the iPhone, 2008 would see Apple return to its roots: computers. Steve Jobs had planned to reveal a brand new 17" MacBook Pro, a brand new 15" MacBook Pro, (and, if my source is correct, there was even meant to be a brand new 13" model, but it isn't clear whether this was MacBook Pro or MacBook - but it is definitely aluminum). Having introduced these machines, the "...and just one more little thing." was meant to be the MacBook Air.

All of these machines feature the gesture touchpad, new keyboard, LED screens and super-sleek thinner case designs, longer battery life, lower weight than the existing line-up and 802.11n WiFi capabilities. What screwed up the launch was the manufacturing problem Intel is having with Penryn processors using the new 45Nm process. THEY STILL HAVEN'T YET SHIPPED IN VOLUME. Given that Leopard 10.5.2 wasn't ready either, the decision to pull the launch was made as a delay between announcement and launch would have killed Mac sales. As things stand, Apple will not launch any revised laptops until Penryn is up and running. That is expected to happen later this week or next week.

For these reasons, Apple is holding a special event in February which will include the iPhone SDK but no 3G iPhone yet.

Apparently, the decision to pull the launch of the revised range was only taken just before the MacWorld Conference and SJ was not amused. Fortunately, the MacBook Air uses a unique processor that was ready in time so this was unaffected by the penryn problem.
So, be patient, friends, new MBPs are coming. The delay isn't Apple's fault.
By all accounts, we'll all be delighted when these machines show-up. They'll be worth their WAIT in Gold."

Reference: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=84319

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Amazon too:

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As well as my school:

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[brtbendele]

You guys are silly, waiting for upgrades that are a marginal improvement over the current MBP. I remembering reading threads about this back in Nov. '07 when I was contemplating getting my first mac and replacing my busted dell inspiron. And its funny, people keeping waiting and waiting...there's always something new when you wait in the electronics world. They keep speculating that at this event and that event there will be an announcement and there hasn't been one since Nov.

I'm trilled with my MBP and I've enjoyed it for the ~3 months you guys have been waiting

You sound like an M3 driver.

 

[jnc]

yah~ maybe they are running out of ideas... sad thought

i see two scenerios:

1. "penryn just wasn't ready in time for mw"
2. apple is so greedy that they want to bank on the macbook air first before the new MBP release, because they are so similar in design.

Due to the MacBook Air, I don't think the MBP was ever going to see any time at Macworld, much in the way the Mac Pro was released beforehand, so the new product gets as much time in the limelight as possible.

I can almost see Apple skipping a Penryn MBP altogether, introducing MBA's features (SSD, mag latch, multi-touch, illuminated new-style keyboard) in the Montevina model

 

[Mr. Funsocks]

Due to the MacBook Air, I don't think the MBP was ever going to see any time at Macworld, much in the way the Mac Pro was released beforehand, so the new product gets as much time in the limelight as possible.

I can almost see Apple skipping a Penryn MBP altogether, introducing MBA's features (SSD, mag latch, multi-touch, illuminated new-style keyboard) in the Montevina model

I'm starting to feel the same way. If there isn't an update by the end of Feb, and no evidence pointing to one. Then I'm just going to have to buy a current model.

 

[dante@sisna.com]

Due to the MacBook Air, I don't think the MBP was ever going to see any time at Macworld, much in the way the Mac Pro was released beforehand, so the new product gets as much time in the limelight as possible.

I can almost see Apple skipping a Penryn MBP altogether, introducing MBA's features (SSD, mag latch, multi-touch, illuminated new-style keyboard) in the Montevina model

This is my belief. This is basically no difference with Penryn: I can't see apple modifying the line for this.

 

[YELLOWSOUL]

:

I'm starting to feel the same way. If there isn't an update by the end of Feb, and no evidence pointing to one. Then I'm just going to have to buy a current model.

I know me too, but im trying to keep faith in this rumored 26th event.

 

[Shua]

Well I will be heading to the store on the 26th reguardless of updates. I have been without a computer for six weeks now.. I cannot hold out much longer.

 

[rols]

This is my belief. This is basically no difference with Penryn: I can't see apple modifying the line for this.

I can - because there is so little difference in the engineering it's a trivial change for them to sub in the new chip on the line even if they make no other changes at all. Computer manufacture is a pretty dynamic thing, as different components become available, things on the line are changed, this isn't the whole chipset, it's just the processor, it's easy.

This is similar to the 'update' in October/November. When the 2.6GHz chip was available in quantity, they made it an option. Personally I thought they would just upgrade the line at the same pricepoint, but they didn't.

There's every reason to do it, if they don't the whole line flags until June or July, people look away from Mac and towards PCs. Even as a pure stopgap measure just to keep people buying the product, they will do the upgrade, even if they are intending on a complete line revamp later in the year.

The upgrade, like the 2.6GHz option, may only be that, a change of processor, but that much will come.

 

[agojes]

Just zip down to Singapore, the store here still shows 24 hours availability on every model of macbook pro, just as it has for ages. Even a custom box is 2-4 biz days. Apple must have a shed full of them here or something. Japan store is the same, 24 hours.

I do hope we don't have to wait out here not just for the launch of the new model but also for people to eat up the old stock, we'll be waiting here forever.

It won't be economical if I get the MBP in Singapore. The exchange rate will kill me instantly. In Singapore, 2.4GHz MBP will sell for S$4,267. With the current exchange rate of US$1 = S$1.412, The MBP will be equal to a little over US$3,000.

You can argue that I can get the tax back. Ok, if I claim the tax, I get S$279.15 back minus the service tax that I still need to pay though. Let me recalculate the MBP at S$4,000, it's US$2,832. That amount doesn't include all expenses I need to pay should I go to Singapore. And if you've been to Indonesia, You will get an idea that I don't think you want to ship your MBP from Singapore to Indonesia.

Therefore, I don't think buying in Singapore is a good decision for me.
Prior to the exhausted stock of MBP in Indonesia, in Jakarta, they were sold for US$2,350 (no wonder they went pretty fast); in Surabaya, US$2,430.

Last time I went to Singapore, the apple stores were selling the MBP with free memory upgrade to 4GB and plus other goodies (I was under the impression that they needed to get rid of the MBPs quickly).

In Jakarta, there is this one big Apple store chain. The reps suggested me to wait because they were pretty sure the new ones (updated) are coming. They didn't have the timetable on when the updated MBPs will be released though. This is the part where I'm convinced to cross my fingers.

*crossing fingers*

 

[wrightc23]

Apple won't skip Penryn. Remember that the Penryn processor line is simply a drop in for most Santa Rosa platforms. Apple are not going to allow their top of the line platform notebook to drop behind technology wise when to update the MBP with Penryn requires little or no alteration to their manufacturing process. In effect are Apple really going to say no we won't bother updating to Penryn and put themselves at a commercial disadvantage when it involves very little effort to make the switch?

Don't forget that Intel announced a couple of weeks ago that they were phasing out production of most of their existing Core 2's for Penryns. It doesn't make any sense for Apple to refuse to take Intel's updated and compatible processor but rather insist that Intel keep the existing Core 2 production line going despite the fact that the new processor can simply be dropped in.

Most manufacturers are quietly switching to Penryn now. One of my friends ordered a M1730 last week and Dell have informed him that they've now switched to Penryn so he will receive the T9500 rather than the T7400.

Whether we get a major update is anyones guess?

At the very least I expect Apple to quietly update their processor spec over the next couple of weeks like every other notebook manufacturer. They updated the processor spec quietly a couple of months ago when the 2.6ghz CPU became available.

My guess is that the delay to at least a minor MBP update has been caused by deploying 10.5.2 and including that in the manufacturing process. In addition there has been a couple of weeks delay for Penryn as well.

 

[YELLOWSOUL]

It won't be economical if I get the MBP in Singapore. The exchange rate will kill me instantly. In Singapore, 2.4GHz MBP will sell for S$4,267. With the current exchange rate of US$1 = S$1.412, The MBP will be equal to a little over US$3,000.

You can argue that I can get the tax back. Ok, if I claim the tax, I get S$279.15 back minus the service tax that I still need to pay though. Let me recalculate the MBP at S$4,000, it's US$2,832.
That amount doesn't include all expenses I need to pay should I go to Singapore. And if you've been to Indonesia, You will get an idea that I don't think you want to ship your MBP from Singapore to Indonesia.

Therefore, I don't think buying in Singapore is a good decision for me.
Prior to the exhausted stock of MBP in Indonesia, in Jakarta, they were sold for US$2,350 (no wonder it went pretty fast); in Surabaya, US$2,430.

Last time I went to Singapore, the apple stores were selling the MBP with free memory upgrade to 4GB and plus other goodies (I was under the impression that they needed to get rid of the MBPs quick).

In Jakarta, there is this one big Apple store chain. The reps suggested me to wait because they were pretty sure the new ones (updated) are coming. They didn't have the timetable on when the updated MBPs will be released though. This is the part where I'm convinced to cross my fingers.

*crossing fingers*

I totally understand I have been crossing my fingers for about a month now, and there stuck! So that can only mean that the update is imminent....lol right?

 

[thefamousgrouse]

This is my belief. This is basically no difference with Penryn: I can't see apple modifying the line for this.

There's been so much talk of a form factor fitting in more appropriately with Montevina, but isn't the MBP about as thin as it can get anyway in order to accomodate dedicated video, etc? I mean, if it were any thinner, wouldn't ports be impacted? If that is the case, will Montevina really allow much more of a form factor change? And if, indeed, it can't go much thinner, why not change it now rather than later? A revision that works with Penryn would only allow more flexibility come Montevina.

Based on these thoughts, I don't see why Apple would hold off until Montevina unless that was their plan anyway. With the advent of the multitouch trackpad and the clear direction towards the new keyboards, I think a revision of the MBP SOON is all but assured - Apple wouldn't want to continue letting the MBP trail the Air in terms of features - it makes absolutely no sense.

 

[wrightc23]

There's been so much talk of a form factor fitting in more appropriately with Montevina, but isn't the MBP about as thin as it can get anyway in order to accomodate dedicated video, etc? I mean, if it were any thinner, wouldn't ports be impacted? If that is the case, will Montevina really allow much more of a form factor change? And if, indeed, it can't go much thinner, why not change it now rather than later? A revision that works with Penryn would only allow more flexibility come Montevina.

Based on these thoughts, I don't see why Apple would hold off until Montevina unless that was their plan anyway. With the advent of the multitouch trackpad and the clear direction towards the new keyboards, I think a revision of the MBP SOON is all but assured - Apple wouldn't want to continue letting the MBP trail the Air in terms of features - it makes absolutely no sense.

I think you'll see a major revision to the MBP in Jan 09 with the next Intel generation. The MBP is still a very well designed laptop and don't forget it is their professional line. I don't understand this consumer urge to constantly redesign products, it isn't actually very rational. It's also the road to poor design as manufacturers try to add more and more flashy items to their designs. I wouldn't want to see a glowing LED covered MBP.

As for the MBA keyboard it's great for it's intended market however for those who will use their laptop professionally for several hours a day I can't help feeling that Apple will stick with a full sized keyboard for the MBP.

 

[Stridder44]

This is my belief. This is basically no difference with Penryn: I can't see apple modifying the line for this.

They did it with the iMac already. But that's too hard to say. What isn't however is Apple skipping on Penryn. There is no way they would let their Pro-notebook line go untouched, even if Penryn is a minor update.

 

[convert2mac]

Has anyone heard if/when the Time Capsule will actually start shipping. Apple store only says "Shipping: February". My guess is the new MBP's will be released the same day. I am a little supprised that the Time Capsules haven't began shipping already. It's just a pure "gut" feeling (aka wishful thinking) but I think they wanted to wait to get both the TC and the MBP shipping together...save a little $$ maybe. There's only two weeks left in this month.....at least I might be able to get a Time Capsule in the next couple of weeks.

 

[MacSamurai]

they're kinda late on the penryn... kill me now

 

[jnc]

Even as a pure stopgap measure just to keep people buying the product, they will do the upgrade, even if they are intending on a complete line revamp later in the year.

Ever considered the 2.6GHz option WAS the "stopgap measure"?

 

[amjustice]

I think you'll see a major revision to the MBP in Jan 09 with the next Intel generation. The MBP is still a very well designed laptop and don't forget it is their professional line. I don't understand this consumer urge to constantly redesign products, it isn't actually very rational. It's also the road to poor design as manufacturers try to add more and more flashy items to their designs. I wouldn't want to see a glowing LED covered MBP.

As for the MBA keyboard it's great for it's intended market however for those who will use their laptop professionally for several hours a day I can't help feeling that Apple will stick with a full sized keyboard for the MBP.

This is why many of the rumors are saying that its not a complete change to the body but simply some slight improvments such as new keyboard, magnetic latch and multitouch trackpad. i am guessing the case and general style will still look basicly the same.

 

[Brianstorm91]

This is why many of the rumors are saying that its not a complete change to the body but simply some slight improvments such as new keyboard, magnetic latch and multitouch trackpad. i am guessing the case and general style will still look basicly the same.

All true, look at the MBP next to the MBA, it's still nice but it looks dated, the lines on the MBA are more refined and nicer.

 

[JWest]

Never thought we'd be calling the Aluminum Powerbook/Macbook Pro design "dated"

 

[telecomm]

Not sure whether this has been posted already, but here you go.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/15/macbook_pros_running_dry_in_the_channel_ahead_of_refreshes.html