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On the other hand, if you are buying a Christmas present, some nice dinners (two dinners for two at $65 each, very nice indeed :eek: ) won't make up for the disappointment of getting a Nexus 7.
Well I am not trapped in an ecosystem. The most I would need a tablet for is cheap web browsing and we do not have toasters doing that just yet.
 
The only reason they are keeping the iPad 2 around is because they want iPad 3 owners to feel that their devices are still current.:D
 
What do you think Microsoft will add innovation wise? The recent surface tablet didn't introduce anything new.

A lot of people are asking for innovation but they require features that would increase the price so much that it would not be sellable at a reasonable price point.

Alternatively many so called innovations have such a narrow scope of usage that it just doesn't warrant the investment of including it in the final product. Do not forget that Apple is not making the iPad just for you, but for hundreds of millions of people. You can see at Samsung and android what happens when you try to satisfy everyone.

Surface is the first touch tablet with full PC OS. iOS (and Android) are not in the same category - those are phone OSes.
 
In that case, I apologise for my tone.

Many americans whose first language is apparently English say "I could care less" and it's become a pet hate of mine.

Many people don't have English as their first language, and the problem is that incorrect usage like that is (1) hard to understand and (2) can lead to those people using incorrect language as well. You can bet that this incorrect usage was picked up on the internet.

(There was a report that in Finland, where lots of TV is English with subtitles, they are moving to produce subtitles cheaper by using less qualified people. There is the fear that this will create problems with the ability of people to write properly, because a huge percentage of reading that kids do is reading subtitles on TV).
 
Now do you feel like you got screwed?

There still isn't any way to make me feel "screwed". So I paid normal price for my brand new iPad 3 at the time....sure I could've waited until now (and missed out on all the awesome things I've used my iPad for between then and now). But then again I can just as easily wait another year for the next one....you'll always be waiting for the latest and greatest.

My wife and I have an iPad 2 16 GB and an iPad 3 32gb with LTE. My plan is to sell them (probably through gazelle so I don't have to hassle with it) and buy a 64 gb wifi only iPad 4. Then get an iPad mini (32gb with LTE) for Christmas.

-or-

If I can't afford it, or figure out how to make that work, or my wife doesn't want to sell hers - I'll keep my perfectly good iPad 3 and get a mini for christmas. Either way, I use my iPad for everything (no laptop) and my 3 has been more than sufficient. Latest and greatest is nice - but ultimately, the grass is always greener...
 
Of course you are a worshipper, why else would you write down this desperate trash? And is that what you need? Someone who presents you something as new if in fact it is not new? Come on...
I didnt miss Steve Jobs even for a second during this presentation.
I guess most people didn´t think about Steve at all.
And I speculate that some people at Apple are glad he is no longer around blocks good inventions (like iPad mini).

What is with the attitude? Nothing I wrote down was trash. My OPINION (since, you know, everybody is allowed to have one of those) is the Steve was a MUCH better presenter than Phil or Tim. He made you believe that the product was really new and revolutionary unlike these guys. How exactly does thinking that make me a worshiper? He was an excellent salesman and I was simply noting that.
 
LOL at Tim Cook saying that "we promised 2012 would be a year filled with innovation and we think we kept our promise"

What innovation? Everything one or more of the following: higher resolution, thinner, lighter, faster, remove optical drive, change connection port

Basically a year of spec bumps ... what innovation has there been since the iPad and iPhone 4 design?

Have you seen the manufacturing and design precision used for these new "higher resolution, thinner, lighter, faster" devices? I'd say the innovation is in the manufacturing process and it really is pretty incredible.
 
Nothing. Both are products that don't exist.

I know you mean iPad 3rd generation/new iPad and iPad 4th generation. I just wanted to pick you up on your technically incorrect terminology.

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It's correct for me and many others who understand.
 
Pretty sure this is how it all went down...

"Well team, last year the iPad 2 didn't generate enough profit. This is unacceptable. What can we do to rectify this problem?"

"how about... let's make it smaller but bigger than an iPhone with the same specs and call it new?"

"Watson, you're an absolute genius."



Is it just me or is Apple pooping out products for the sake of pooping.
 
I can certainly understand it in a portable computer, the resulting unit is thinner and lighter, therefore, more portable; I just don't get it in a desktop. Especially, if your goal is to have everything in one unit (hence buying an all-in-one), without a collection of external boxes on your desk.

DVDs and CDs may be dying, but they're not dead just yet. I get that eventually they will go the way of the floppy; I just don't think that time is here yet.

Strongly agree with this, someone that millions of people still use is not dead, floppies were easily replaced and are not like DVDs etc..
 
Not to be sexist But i see the ipad mini as being very girlish like a ereader that fits in your purse.

And at that price if buying the 32GB for $429 why not just save the extra for the bigger screen and retina on the 4th Generation iPad 16GB?

Yeh it's great to be a girl sometimes. I was shopping for handbags the other day and reminding myself to allow space for a mini iPad...

Anyway this girl gonna get that mini with small storage since mostly I'll use it for book reading, mail, the odd TV show or podcast. And since I'm still getting along on the original iPad all this time, I'll finally upgrade my regular iPad too. For that I'll get the 64GB storage since I'm used to that amount of storage for all my apps and subscription data plus plenty movies, music etc. Best of both worlds. All I can't decide on is whether to bother with cellular, it's proved pretty optional for my purposes with my original iPad, so I might go WiFi only on the upgrade and definitely on the mini.

Good thing I like rice and beans, hope I like fewer beans in order to squeeze these both into the budget before spring. Maybe that iPad upgrade will have to wait but I'm going to play shuffle-the-numbers for awhile next weekend and see how it works out. Someone in my family is going to be very happy to get the original iPad since it still works fine. I haven't decided yet whether to give my Nook away that I was using as a 'tween size in the meantime. I like seeing where they're going with it and its uses, so maybe hang on for awhile.
 
Are you talking about Apple sticking with USB 2.0 when entire World switched to USB 3.0? Or them sticking with DVD drives when all PCs had BluRay? Or being the last computer manufacturer to switch to Ivy Bridge CPU? So much for "emerging tech".

Your definition of emerging tech is also different from Apple's. To you it's USB 3.0. To them it's Thunderbolt.

To you, it's higher capacity optical discs, to them it's iTunes.
 
It might be two physically separate drives but the concept is the same. But Apple still isn't the first to do this, all Z68 and Z77 chipsets (Sandy and Ivy Bridge) support the exact feature that Apple is marketing. You can plug in a mSATA SSD and Intel has built it software that takes care of the caching.

Not the same, one is caching and one is changing the actual location of the file.
 
Surface is the first touch tablet with full PC OS. iOS (and Android) are not in the same category - those are phone OSes.

Wrong - Surface PRO will be. Surface RT is a dumbed down version of a questionable Windows 8 in which you can't run any full Win8 programs.

And guess how much Surface Pro will cost? It won't be that much (if at all) cheaper or more portable than current netbooks.

Surface RT will do well to steal SOME market share from Android - but Apple shouldn't be - and I suspect isn't - worried
 
Have you seen the manufacturing and design precision used for these new "higher resolution, thinner, lighter, faster" devices? I'd say the innovation is in the manufacturing process and it really is pretty incredible.

I know and already agreed with another poster who brought that up, but be honest when they announced that it would be a year filled with innovation did you think it would involve the processes used to make products or the products themselves?
 
Based on the price , I will call a fail in the iPad mini. Its hard to imagine anyone with the money to spend laying out bucks for one of these if they already have an iPhone in their pocket or handbag and the yet-to-be-tableted are not going to spend twice the money as an android device costs even if the build quality and experience are superior.
 
Did MacRumors seriously delete my post? It was on topic. Short, but on topic. Wow.

Anyways, I suppose I'll add more vernacular so it doesn't happen again. All I really wanted at this event was the release, or a date of release, for the new iTunes. Considering it's my main media manager (unfortunately, right now), I'm quite anticipating the update.

...happy, MacRumors?
 
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