Live Coverage of Apple's iPad Mini Media Event [Event Ended]

[robanga]

Pretty sure this is how it all went down...


Is it just me or is Apple xxxx out products for the sake of pooping.

Capitalism is great when it works

 

[intrepid00]

I wouldn't really call it a cache drive. Its basically a software RAID with Logic to put things in certain places.

It is by what you just described caching. RAID can have caching but this isn't RAID. Universally this would fall under storage virtualization. Which isn't RAID but can use it. The only thing RAID about it is that you usually have to create a RAID volume (single disk is fine) to use it.

This also already exist and isn't new. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/servers/raid/raid-ssd-cache.html

 

[RedRaven571]

On a slightly different note:

If Apple is pushing iPad for education, why is there no education discount?

 

[Tech198]

Well.. I just re-read the artice on MacRumors, and ya,,, hybrid drive


Which is outdated .....

How did they ever manage to sqeeze a hard drive in there?

I woud have expected SSD as default in the new iMac, all the way.

 

[thefizzle657]

Not the same, one is caching and one is changing the actual location of the file.

With Intel caching it writes an exact copy of the file to the SSD and then each time the file is accessed it reads it from the SSD instead of the HDD. So the end result is exactly the same. I would actually argue that caching is better because in the event that the SSD dies or you need to move the main drive to a new computer everything that was on the SSD is still on the HDD as well.

 

[biscuitsxluv]

In that case, I apologise for my tone.

Many americans whose first language is apparently English say "I could care less" and it's become a pet hate of mine.

It's okay. I took ESL for 6 years and still can't speak or write in English correctly.

 

[Icaras]

So no iTunes 11 today?

That's exactly what I was wondering as well.

 

[gnasher729]

Fusion Drive

Both Flash and HDD combined into a drive that is in one partition

Software automatically decides where things go ...

This is pretty cool

Edit - I think the neat part is that OSX runs it automatically, have past drives had anything that could do this?

There have been drives doing this automatically. There are actually three ways to do this:

1. Separate - the user has to move things to the right place. An absolute pain and IMO totally negates the speed advantage.

2. Together using a more or less clever controller: There is a bit of hardware that controls what goes where. A lot better. And you can buy this. Not cheap.

3. Controlled by the operating system. I think that's Apple only. That's the best way to do it. For example, the OS can reorganise things in the night. Cache all writes onto the SSD drive, then move things that look unimportant to the hard drive in the night.

 

[robanga]

On a slightly different note:

If Apple is pushing iPad for education, why is there no education discount?

I wondered about that too - But i am sure a discount will apply.

 

[iBug2]

The RDF ain't what it used to be with Steve around

Nah, it's the same as ever. Apple isn't doing anything differently. Maybe that's a bad thing though.

 

[lilo777]

The Surface Pro perhaps, Windows RT is as much of a mobile OS as Android, perhaps less by some definitions.

That's totally wrong. Windows RT is a full featured OS. It just does not support legacy (x86) applications. It does support everything else (like having multiple apps on the screen simultaneously)

 

[biscuitsxluv]

Many people don't have English as their first language, and the problem is that incorrect usage like that is (1) hard to understand and (2) can lead to those people using incorrect language as well. You can bet that this incorrect usage was picked up on the internet.

(There was a report that in Finland, where lots of TV is English with subtitles, they are moving to produce subtitles cheaper by using less qualified people. There is the fear that this will create problems with the ability of people to write properly, because a huge percentage of reading that kids do is reading subtitles on TV).

I think that might be it. I read a lot as well, hoping that it'll help me with my grammar.

 

[Roessnakhan]

well where have you been the last couple of days?

I was expecting a surprise!

 

[Takeo]

I HATE to say it and don't want to, but if Steve was around, this wouldn't have happened.

Maybe so. But he's not around anymore. People need to get used to that and let the new folks in charge chart their own course. I don't think it's that big a deal. And I have the iPad "3". It's a faster processor and a different plug. Big deal. You know when it comes to tech that whatever you buy is always going to be "out of date" by the time you get it home.

 

[LinusR]

So no iTunes 11 today?

Hope, we don't have to wait too long. In October, there are only some days left... But why did Apple not release iTunes today? I don't get that...

 

[iBug2]

Don't you think these forums are becoming like the post-debate "spin rooms"? Half the people are here for talking trash to the other guy. Nothing worthwhile gets talked about.

Biggest news of this thing to me was, the "4th generation" iPad. Full-sized got a .5 major upgrade. "We're not taking our foot off the gas." Apple and Samsung doing wheelies out in the parking lot! Drag races out on the highway!

I think actual discussions always happened on the product specific forums, not on the news forums. News forums are thunderstorms, always were. Tons of people post on them, nobody actually ready every post (for obvious reasons) and the best thing to do is post your opinion which nobody reads or trash talk another opinion, which again, nobody reads. I've had great discussions on the actual product/software forums on macrumors over the years, still do.

 

[Swift]

Living in the future to such a degree makes it hard for people to do things today. They removed the floppy before I even started using it (was never a fan, flash drives were costly) I still want flash on my iPhone and I use my computers as one in one systems so I need an internal optical drive. The issue is because I want to like all their products, their living in the future can make that hard.

However take the Macbook Pros with their amazing screens, there could be a day where that is more important then having an internet drive that I may not even use that much in the future, I will have to see. Always wanted blu-ray in a mac though.

The new iMac? Thin. Know how they changed it? One line: "We took out the optical drive." A software based "fusion drive"? (You want a blu-ray burner or a 4K recorder next year? Thunderbolt connection.)

 

[robanga]

That's totally wrong. Windows RT is a full featured OS. It just does not support legacy (x86) applications. It does support everything else (like having multiple apps on the screen simultaneously)

ok so multitasking within same screen- What else makes makes it a "full OS" ? Because last time i looked app switching on Android works.

 

[token787]

Ipad or the new Nook HD+? Have to do some homework

 

[LagunaSol]

The iPad UI just looks so outdated nowadays.

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So much wasted space, it's like a children's device.

You wanna see real "wasted space" and "children's device?"

 

[iSee]

Sorry. English is second language! Thank you!

The phrase is commonly said both ways and means the same thing either way. Since this is informal communication, it's fine and correct to use common sayings -- whether they make sense when parsed literally or not.

So that other poster should be the one apologizing; for being both pedantic and wrong.

 

[D.T.]

The reason you spend all your time in the apps is because iOS interface is so primitive. With Android you can use some apps (widgets) without opening apps.

Nope.

I do/did the same with my Android devices (Protip: don't assume someone doesn't have significant experience with several platforms ).

I always found widgets to be short on enough information or UI to be effective as "shortcuts" for the full app. Even some of the nicer ones that were wrapped into a whole UI replacement so that they were more seamless (like ADW), were just kind of clumsy vs. opening the equivalent app.

Notifications I dig on, glad they ultimately made their way into iOS, widgets, no thanks.

 

[Felix01]

Can you imagine Microsoft posting a live event video that was not watchable on an Apple product?

Few on this forum would give a damn. I sure wouldn't.

 

[Takeo]

Exactly.

One of the things that drew me to Apple was refusal to play the Android game of "A-new-revision-every-2-weeks". Exaggerating of course but it seems like every time I turn around we're on a new, revised android device. I LIKED that Apple only came out with something about once every year... gave me piece of mind knowing that my shiny *new* toy will remain NEW for at least a year...

With this... not so anymore. And on that note, I will NOT be buying a new iPad nor a new iPad mini. In fact, I'll be surprised if we ever buy another iPad for ourselves.

Holy cow. The drama in this thread is off the charts.

 

[BlueCorn]

My 64Gb AT&T LTE iPad 3 has a $350 offer from Gazelle i am considering it to avoid shuffling lightning adaptors. But then again....its a while until the 4 ships.

Wtf... If it's in fair condition, you could fetch much more than that. Heck, I would buy it off you for that price.