I love people that think that every one uses data and voice at the same time.. Because there are people out there that do not. I know people that do not use it and I also do not.. So you can not say that EVERY ONE uses it because you would be wrong.. Hell I use more Text then phone and my wife to and we are both over 30....
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What? Apple actually keeps the year upgrade thing pretty consistent carrier to carrier. When a new carrier is added, it's usually right at a year before that specific carrier "officially" gets the new iPhone. And remember, until now, all iPhones have been able to work on the all GSM frequencies, so as long as the phone was unlocked, it could work on any GSM network. They were all made exactly the same way. This new CDMA iPhone is a totally new part, and will have to remain a separate part for at least several years. Therefore it makes sense to have separate, 6 month apart launches for at least the next few years.
This rumor has been off and on for quite a long time, it's pretty big news. So it makes sense to me at least.
I love how people think that just because they don't SURF THE WEB AND TALK ON THE PHONE, that they're not using voice and data at the same time.
When someone calls you while you're on the phone and you decline it, then it pops up and says you have a voicemail, even if you hang up and then immediately listen, that's having used voice and data, because the message was already downloaded when you hung up, rather than having to wait for the network to queue the message then download it when you hang up.
Same for emails, they always come in... so just because you don't read them when you're on the phone doesn't mean that when you press END you don't see the red message badge and read the emails. You wouldn't see that if you had Verizon because emails would not even BEGIN to come in until you press end. so you could potentially have to set down the phone, let them all download, then pick it back up and read them.
Educate yourself before you say something. If you don't do any of the above then you're NOT in the normal iPhone demographic, or any smartphone for that matter, because all of the above matter to MOST people, regardless of use for business or pleasure.
The later, unfortunately, tho some apps buffer 30 seconds then idle 5-15 seconds, then buffer... so in theory if it comes in during idle time it'll come through.
Just look at it like EDGE used to work, so more times than not, no it won't come through, HELLO VOICEMAIL!
The later, unfortunately, tho some apps buffer 30 seconds then idle 5-15 seconds, then buffer... so in theory if it comes in during idle time it'll come through.
Just look at it like EDGE used to work, so more times than not, no it won't come through, HELLO VOICEMAIL!
Actually, with my experience on both of my motorola droids on Verizon, the data stops and the call comes through. I've read several times that CDMA (at least the way Verizon impliments it) prioritizes calls over data. I'm not well versed in that, but it's always worked that way for me. Someone like kdarling can probably shed more light on it.
Likely because pandora really isn't streaming, since it's not live it's just playing a song on your device. I couldn't say for sure without seeing a data log.
The phone will ring. The call interrupts the data feed. Using data on verizon does not send your incoming calls to VM.
In fact, while on a phone call, I can send and receive texts on my non-wifi BB Tour.
Texts aren't data. PICTURE messages ARE data tho, and that you CANNOT do while on the phone.
The later, unfortunately, tho some apps buffer 30 seconds then idle 5-15 seconds, then buffer... so in theory if it comes in during idle time it'll come through.
Just look at it like EDGE used to work, so more times than not, no it won't come through, HELLO VOICEMAIL!
Just wondering, but have you ever used a CDMA phone?
Had a Verizon BB Storm 2 then went to a Droid X... so yeah I'm quite familiar. And even worked for VZ for several years. (NO, Not retail, lol)
I didn't know they announced Android devices with bladders.
Also, did you know that Android devices ALREADY work on pretty much any carrier?
SMS text messages uses control channels, the same channels and frequencies used for phone call ringing and dialing, not data.
My girlfriend has verizon when she is sending or receiving picture messages I can tell because I get sent to voicemail. When she is surfing the web I get sent to voicemail. When she does pandora I get sent to voicemail. But I noticed that when her browser bar is that verizon red to show the progress of down loading the web page is when I get sent to voicemail land. So its a hit an miss type thing because I get through to her when it's not.
By all these posts in here I can tell most people are morans they have no clue what verizon can or can't do as well as what AT&T can and can't do. I have had all cell carriers as service, even nextel when it was cool to have push to connect. So far AT&T is the lesser of all evils for me so far. I love the idea verizon got the iPhone, now I can FaceTime her in a creepy way. I fear voice land for me more often now due that limitation.
By all these posts in here I can tell most people are morans they have no clue what verizon can or can't do as well as what AT&T can and can't do. I have had all cell carriers as service, even nextel when it was cool to have push to connect. So far AT&T is the lesser of all evils for me so far. I love the idea verizon got the iPhone, now I can FaceTime her in a creepy way. I fear voice land for me more often now due that limitation.
i can't believe they'll make Verizon customers wait 6 months longer than ATT - it'll be like the android fragmentation. customers will get really pissed. i think releasing the iphone 4 on verizon now makes a lot of sense. most people won't care about a new one in June - except of course for the die hard fans who know. these are probably the heaviest data users so they'll hold off until june which gives verizon a few months to test out their network before the heavy hitters join.
They've made them wait 6 months so far, haven't they? And technically, it wouldn't be 6 months. It'd be the same 12 month update cycle they have now. Again, think of this in terms of logistics. If Apple can't successfully meet demand for the GSM iPhone launch each year in June/July now (they've gotten better each year, but the manufacturing company...FoxConn...still can't keep up with demand and get 3-4 weeks behind), how on earth could they launch a GSM AND a CDMA phone at the same time? The lines in the Apple store are already literally a day long for several weeks for just the GSM launch. Now...imagine TWO lines that long each day for several weeks....one for CMDA/Verizon, and the other for GSM. That'd go over like a lead balloon! Apple's manufacturing lines are almost ready to start gearing up for the GSM launch of the new iPhone 5 this summer (assuming they release one...past history says it comes every summer). They are probably still rolling CDMA handsets off the lines now for Verizon's launch. Now who in their right minds is going to think that while they are still making iPhone 4's for Verizon, that they are going to start making iPhone 5 for GSM AND CDMA, AND have enough of them ready to go for a summer launch? The production capacities just aren't there for that I don't think. Not if they already tap out FoxConn's production capabilities as it is when they launch just the GSM model. A 6-7 month spacing between launches works out perfectly for them. Plus, as I said before, it gives Apple a cash cow new product launch in the early part of the year, when they typically don't have many new launches going (and we all know Apple's all about quarterly earnings...as any business should be). And there are other cell manufacturers that do this as well (launch the same handset on different carrier technologies at different times of the year). Blackberry does it often. Motorola has been known to do it as well.
Time for an Android BOGN sale.
As in "Buy One Get Nine."
Android's main reason for existence is to deliver AdMob ads to its users. That's why Google gives it away for free. To maximize the number of eyeballs on its ads. To Google, you are just a pair of eyeballs looking at ads. Android isn't their product. You are.
Android sales on Verizon flattened out last fall because of iPhone 4 on AT&T. Just imagine what will happen starting in February.
As in "Buy One Get Nine."
Android's main reason for existence is to deliver AdMob ads to its users. That's why Google gives it away for free. To maximize the number of eyeballs on its ads. To Google, you are just a pair of eyeballs looking at ads. Android isn't their product. You are.
Android sales on Verizon flattened out last fall because of iPhone 4 on AT&T. Just imagine what will happen starting in February.
I have a quick question. Does anyone think that the software on iphone will be tweaked at all, like how verizon loads its crappy unusable software on almost all its phones?
keeping my fingers crossed and hoping apple has not yielded to that request. cuz verizon phone software suuuuuuucks!
keeping my fingers crossed and hoping apple has not yielded to that request. cuz verizon phone software suuuuuuucks!