Apparently the new CDMA phone has relocated buttons that will probably require new cases. Great.
Source: Engadget
Great....now there will be iPhone 4 ATT and iPhone 4 Verizon cases. Why to fragment Apple!
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Great....now there will be iPhone 4 ATT and iPhone 4 Verizon cases. Why to fragment Apple!
After your contract expires, you'll be grandfathered in at the exact same plan that you have currently, on a month-to-month basis, and you may choose to cancel at any point in the future, probably with 30 days notice, without any penalty. So it's perfectly safe for you to adopt a wait-and-see position to look out for AT&T's response.
(You'd be locked in again on a new fixed term contract if you purchased a new subsidized phone, or if you accepted a new promotional/retentions price plan.)
To people complaining about CDMA limitations (voice/data simultaneously) stop, you can keep your AT&T phone + plan. They aren't taking it away from you.
Now for those of us not in a decent AT&T zone and/or got burned badly by them (Myself included) it's good to know there is another avenue to buy an iPhone. That's the silver lining.
Plus having voice and data doesn't mean squat when I can't even get a signal in/near my home.
Now for those of us not in a decent AT&T zone and/or got burned badly by them (Myself included) it's good to know there is another avenue to buy an iPhone. That's the silver lining.
Plus having voice and data doesn't mean squat when I can't even get a signal in/near my home.
I think it works the reverse. Your data connection gets dropped and you receive the call. That is my understanding. I could be wrong. I have the iPhone that does data and voice at the same time and I wouldn't trade it for anything
To me this is huge and I am sure most iPhone users would agree. You just get used to doing it. Checking directions, looking up restaurants, running GPS that requires a data connection while on a voice call. To not have it would seriously limit the use of an iPhone. Might as well stick to the Nokia brick.
Cases
The ringer/mute switch has been lowered slighty. Current iphone 4 cases won't work for this model.
The ringer/mute switch has been lowered slighty. Current iphone 4 cases won't work for this model.
Exactly...and the same is true for us that have horrible Verizon coverage. Two way street!
Aha.
I just realized why Steve Jobs never noticed the GSM antenna problem.
He's probably been on a Verizon model since 2008.
I just realized why Steve Jobs never noticed the GSM antenna problem.
He's probably been on a Verizon model since 2008.
No, that isn't true. GSM is TDMA based while LTE is OFDMA based. Precious little, if anything, in common between the two.
I think it works the reverse. Your data connection gets dropped and you receive the call. That is my understanding. I could be wrong. I have the iPhone that does data and voice at the same time and I wouldn't trade it for anything
One channel communication... means if you've got a channel going nothing else comes in, so if data is active, call goes to voicemail.
See exactly!
It's a win-win and I really don't see how people are so enraged about this announcement. If they said they were dropping AT&T for Verizon then yes you'd have reason(s) to over turn cars and set them ablaze.
Are you sure about that? I would think that it would interrupt the data to allow the voice call to come in.
Anyone currently on Verizon want to chime in here?
Yup agreed. If you can't use a phone as a phone then it is pointless. I think both Verizon and AT&T have dead spots. So if you don't have a choice then you have to got with what works obviously. But I don't see people who are already on an iPhone with AT&T and don't have a signal issue switching to Verizon. Because this limitation is huge if you are already addicted to it.
I'm guessing cases will be re-designed to by "hybrid" and work for either mute switch configuration. And future iPhone revisions will be done to be universal with switches in consistent positions between GSM and CDMA models.
I still haven't seen confirmation on whether this is a "world phone" with sim card capability?? Actually I've seen it confirmed both yes and no....which is it? If it is "world phone" capable, then it can take a sim card. Could this phone be sold by AT&T going forward as well?
I know it was on AT&T's network. And no, this does not change now that the phone is on Verizon. At least not for the time being.
Aha.
I just realized why Steve Jobs never noticed the GSM antenna problem.
He's probably been on a Verizon model since 2008.
Now that's funny.
It's been this way since the beginning of time. However, if you're on a webpage reading\scrolling, odds are there's no data transmit, and since EVDO is instant-on, there's periods of idle where you're "surfing" but no data is transmitting or receiving, so calls can sneak through. This is the case when tethered too.
If you look at a session log on a tether connection or a mifi, you'll see in an hour the device connects\disconnects from the network several dozen times an hour... so any of these times calls could sneak through.
Honestly we're probably going to have to wait for the tear downs to know if it's got a universal CDMA and GSM chip in it.
That's the same way it works on EDGE. As long as there is no data being transmitted/received you can receive a call.
