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Did anyone notice any other familiar names from flight 815? One would assume that ones who were abducted from the 'tailie' camp were there since there was a list of those that the Others needed to take. Although, doesn't the unscratched names list more closely resemble Michael's list of names he was given in order for him to be granted his freedom to get off the island?

The only other two crossed-out names I saw/could read were Mattingly and O'Toole.

I went through a number of times on my DVR, but the only names I could make out were Littleton and Almeida. I THINK I saw 'Austen' on there, but I'm not positive. If only it was broadcast in 1080p!

Edit - Here you go, via lostpedia - A list of the names on the cave wall

Edit 2 - I knew I remembered 'Mattingly' from the LOST universe - he was one of the US Army guys in the 50s. Perhaps they were 'brought' to the Island, too.
 
I think you're right because the kid told MIB "You cant kill him" and MIB said "You can't tell me what to do". This follows the line that Jacob controls ( has in chains ) Smokey. and the fact that smokey can't kill unless attacked.

I thought the line "You can't tell me what to do." had more to do with the FLocke repeating a line used by Locke. I don't know what the rules are about the smoke monster, I thought the smoke monster could attack unprovoked
Lostpedia: Eko's bio said:
The Monster then appeared and advanced threateningly while Eko began to recite the 23rd Psalm, as before. This time, however, it attacked him, beating him into trees and then slamming him into the ground.

The symbols used in the show are getting a little more pronounced too, I had to laugh when FLocke tipped the scales with the black and white stones when he threw the white (good) stone into the ocean... I wonder if he's a bad guy? ;)
 
I had to laugh at last nights episode.

We finally know what the numbers are for.

I love it that Peg Bundy is Lockes girlfriend. She came out with the "D" word (destiny) when talking to Locke about Jack.

If the timelines are destined to happen, Locke isn't going to live (maybe Ben kills him again in this timeline or perhaps Jack).

With the arrival of the kid last night, it seems to me there is still another "higher power" on the island. We thought it was Jacob and Flocke, but clearly Flocke was pretty shook up when he saw the kid and then realized that Sawyer could see him too. It's the first time FLocke has lost his composure (scared) a trait shared by the real Locke.

So all those whispers and sightings (kates horse, backward talking Walt, etc.) are really from these "others" (for lack of a better term). Maybe we haven't really met the natives of the island, just others who were brought to the island.

Somehow I don't get the sense that Sawyer wants to be the keeper of the island. Ben has been sitting in the shadows for too long. I could definitely see him step up to take the job.

Could Jack take over Jacob's job? Being the healer? Possibly...

I love it that everyone works/worked for Hurley in the other timeline. It was nice to see Rose again. I love it that Locke still refuses to believe that he's handicapped and parked in a normal space. That's some serious denial!
 
I love it that everyone works/worked for Hurley in the other timeline. It was nice to see Rose again. I love it that Locke still refuses to believe that he's handicapped and parked in a normal space. That's some serious denial!

Although the timeline mirrors actuality somewhat, as Hurley did own Locke's box company in the other timeline.

What I want to know is what brought Rose to LA from Buffalo? That's where she and Bernard met and had lived in the 'real' timeline. And maybe I am just assuming that John Locke lives in LA. (previously, I thought it was Cali, but not necessarily LA.)
 
Think tbh it's more a case of good and evil. Yin and yang. Both need to exist to keep a balance.

Was it ash they used to seal the temple?? I can't remember will have to double check.
 
I'm firmly convinced now that they are not going to give us any real answers. For two weeks in a row now the previews for the next week have said something to the effect of "no more questions, it's time for answers..." then the episode comes and all we get are more questions.

Plus, the thought occurred to me that if they do answer all the questions then the show is over, really over. I'm not talking about more seasons or spin offs, but the memory of the show and the legacy it leaves behind. When a show does give you "closure" then it's easy to just put it away because everything was nicely wrapped up in the end. However, the shows or stories that don't answer the questions and leave things a mystery live on forever in infamy as the conclusion is forever debated in the minds of it's fans. I don't think the writers of Lost want us to have a firm concrete ending. They want us to continue to discuss and propose theories like we are doing now with this thread. The ending will be a "left to your own interpretation" kind of thing. Which is frustrating as all get out for analytical people like me. :mad: :D
 
I agree with you somewhat. There will be a lot of unanswered questions when it's over but we will get a lot of questions answered. There are just way too many loose ends for them to tie up.

I'm sure we'll get umpteen DVD releases with all kinds of 'extras'. :rolleyes:
 
The way Jacob "blessed" both the Kwons makes me think that it's the baby that will become the leader, or is a candidate. But... is she pregnant? I don't fully recall all that.
 
There's a poll on the SFX forums (a popular sci-fi magazine in the UK) and I'd be interested to see how you guys think it's going to end;

They're in purgatory
It's all in Hurley's head
It's a metaphor for the human condition
It's a David Lynch movie
It's a celestial war between heaven and hell
It's an alien experiment
Locke will save the day


The way they ended season 5 and with hints throughout this season, I'm siding with the "celestial war between heaven and hell" one. But we all know what Lost is like with its red herrings.
 
The way Jacob "blessed" both the Kwons makes me think that it's the baby that will become the leader, or is a candidate. But... is she pregnant? I don't fully recall all that.

She had her baby in the 2-3 years off-island.
 
There's a poll on the SFX forums (a popular sci-fi magazine in the UK) and I'd be interested to see how you guys think it's going to end;

They're in purgatory
It's all in Hurley's head

It's a metaphor for the human condition
It's a David Lynch movie
It's a celestial war between heaven and hell
It's an alien experiment
Locke will save the day

I think the producers already said a few of these were definitely not the case. IIRC, the ones I bolded have already been denied.

The David Lynch movie one just doesn't make sense. I feel like these poll options were created by someone who has only seen like half the show.
 
Me too. Terry O'Quinn continues to impress me, he's a great actor.
I assumed that fake Locke was played by a fake Terry O'Quinn. Your telling me that this is the real one!? :eek:

I've started having an unexpected reaction watching the last season unfold. I've been waiting for answers to all of these Lost mysteries for years, along with everybody else, but I feel a little sad that more and more of it starts to make sense. The names in the cave? Yeah, we suspected they were being tested, and now that's confirmed. I'm already starting to miss the baffling surprises and out-of-the-blue twists that used to constantly drive us mad.
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I don't know if this was said already...

But the kid that FLocke was chasing, could that be Aaron?
 
It could be Aaron. Remember Walt's appearances in places he shouldn't and couldn't have been? This could be something similar. If anything, this could be the role they originally intended for Walt, but the actor playing him got older a little too fast - and looks it too.
 
Back to the Black Rock ship. I've found some interesting stuff researching the Black Rock.

It was a real ship.

The owner was surmised to be the captain of the Black Rock.

Here's a partial list of it's crew :
Captain:
Magnus Hanso
1st Mate:
Alexander Widmore
2nd Mate:
Clifford Widmore
Crew:
Robert Broughton
Johannes Bedell
Richard Alpert
Jacob Deyer
Daniel Linderman
Henrick Skeggs
Peter Thompson
Thomas Parys
Anthony Forster
Miles Strom
Adam Monroe
Thomas Hetley
Henry Wingfeild
Conrad Strughold
John Poulter
Alvin Kurtzweil
Thomas Mettlewerk
Reginald Knolles
Daniel Farraday
Edward Jackman

The blast door map contains the notation "known final resting place of Magnus Hanso/Black Rock," suggesting Magnus Hanso indeed owned the Black Rock ship, and that he was likely on board when the vessel crashed on the Island.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus_Hanso

The Black Rock was the favorite ship of fleet owner Magnus Hanso.

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Somehow. with no proof. I am now further convinced that the losties et.al. are the survivors of the Black Rock.

When I've seen more episodes I will be able to confirm it I believe. Until then it's just the view of a babbling guy.:D
 
I might feel a little out of it, but when was the first indication that Lock was not Lock? When a show jumps around with time travel and such, so what if you see him dead and alive at the same time? ;)

Despite it's ups and downs, I consider Lost as the best tv show ever created and executed.
 
Back to the Black Rock ship. I've found some interesting stuff researching the Black Rock.

It was a real ship.

The owner was surmised to be the captain of the Black Rock.

Here's a partial list of it's crew :
Captain:
Magnus Hanso
1st Mate:
Alexander Widmore
2nd Mate:
Clifford Widmore
Crew:
Robert Broughton
Johannes Bedell
Richard Alpert
Jacob Deyer
Daniel Linderman
Henrick Skeggs
Peter Thompson
Thomas Parys
Anthony Forster
Miles Strom
Adam Monroe
Thomas Hetley
Henry Wingfeild
Conrad Strughold
John Poulter
Alvin Kurtzweil
Thomas Mettlewerk
Reginald Knolles
Daniel Farraday
Edward Jackman

The blast door map contains the notation "known final resting place of Magnus Hanso/Black Rock," suggesting Magnus Hanso indeed owned the Black Rock ship, and that he was likely on board when the vessel crashed on the Island.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Magnus_Hanso

The Black Rock was the favorite ship of fleet owner Magnus Hanso.

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Somehow. with no proof. I am now further convinced that the losties et.al. are the survivors of the Black Rock.

When I've seen more episodes I will be able to confirm it I believe. Until then it's just the view of a babbling guy.:D

That's some cool info.

However, it still doesn't lead me to believe that the Losties are the Black Rock survivors. There's no connection betweem that crew list and the Losties.

Farraday may have travelled through time to be on the ship for some reason.

One of those Widmores may be Charles Widmore's father or grandfather or great-grandfather or etc....

Maybe one of those Widmores (probably Alexander) is the MIB.

Maybe Jacob led a revolt against the captain and 1st mate Widmore (MIB) because they weren't 'good' (or maybe they were good and Jacob is bad).

According to lostipedia, Miles spells his last name like this: "Straume". But maybe he went back in time with Farraday?

I think that Jacob and Richard and one of the Widmores used the spring in the temple to extend their lives.
 
But Aaron's not on the island.

Consencus here is that the kid is Jacob. I think the kid looks like him.

I share your opinion. That was my first thought when I saw the kid. He looks like a young Jacob... he isn't scared of FLocke... he scared FLocke... and he seems to know what's going on just by the short dialogue he had with FLocke, To me that eliminates him as being just an(OTHER) Brat on the island.
 
More thoughts.

The Black Rock was seen ON the Island inside grown trees and brush.

In "LA X Pt. 1 " The white flash opens to the clouds and Jack sitting in a window seat. He looks out and the camera goes through the clouds down to the ocean then to the bottom of the ocean where we see the Dharma housing and the shark with the Dharma symbol.

Now if the Black Rock is ON the Island that means it is really at the bottom of the ocean. Or Davey Jones Locker. The place sailors go when lost at sea.

It may be that the original losties aren't from the Black Rock but the crew of the Black Rock are on the Island and are trying to find their way back home.

We know of one that has seemed to found the "loophole". The MIB.

The losties "could" be people that were on the Black Rock as it's cargo was secret and ranged from booze to slaves.

I believe some of the others ARE from the Black Rock as per the "list" of the crew of the Black Rock.

Ya. I know. Sad way to spend one's time eh ? :p
 
Entertainment Weekly has another piece on Lost and the article says the producers knew from the beginning what the last five scenes would be. Made me think of a cage match. Six walk in, only one 1 walks out.

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