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Consider it done

Imagine how thin they could make this thing if they took the CD out?

No need to imagine. Apple already did it. (Hint: It's not the Mac mini air.)
 

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Looks like they rotate it counter clockwise to pivot around the carriers. That is why the side panel needs to be removed.

On second thought, you could be right. Looks pretty easy, anyhow.
 
I'm not seeing an IR sensor in the pics or the specs (non-server version). Is it there somewhere? If it's not Apple Remote capable then that will hinder home theater use, unless the iPhone Remote can access Front Row instead of just iTunes. Maybe IR will be a reason to still use Apple TV.
 
I'm not seeing an IR sensor in the pics or the specs. Is it there somewhere? If it's not Apple Remote capable then that will hinder home theater use, unless the iPhone Remote can access Front Row instead of just iTunes. Maybe IR will be a reason to still use Apple TV.

There'd better be an IR sensor, or my new mini is going back to Apple, unopened!
 
Look at the mini server. The big black dot at the front is the IR receiver.

Look in the gallery picks on apple.com at the regular mini and just on the right of the DVD drive slot you can make out the IR receiver (its part of the slot). The tiny hole is the sleep light.
 
I'm not seeing an IR sensor in the pics or the specs (non-server version). Is it there somewhere? If it's not Apple Remote capable then that will hinder home theater use, unless the iPhone Remote can access Front Row instead of just iTunes. Maybe IR will be a reason to still use Apple TV.

There'd better be an IR sensor, or my new mini is going back to Apple, unopened!

hm... it dosent have ir receiver?

People, IT HAS the IR sensor.

(before the word of mouth spreads)

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(whereas the remote is not an available option while configuring a white Macbook)
 
nice design but not worth the 699 entry price. I maxed out my last mini for around 100 bucks more.

But mark my words. dvds are on there way out. We'll be buying software on sd cards very soon.
 
Mac mini + plex.should i say something else ?:)

I keep hearing about Plex (I admit I haven't played with it) and others that you can install, like Boxee/XBMC (which I was an alpha tester for on ATV). However, what I think all these are missing that the ATV has is a clean user interface. I don't want to have a keyboard or mouse to work my home theater (neither does my wife and kids). How do you rent movies with Plex or Boxee? I think, other than non-mainstream shows that are not streaming, DVR is dying.

I know that alot of you readers will disagree with me, but the simple interface that ATV has blows all the others away...especially since I can easily rent movies too. Now granted, ATV doesn't have the codec support that the others have but I don't know if the UI degrade is worth it. I find that I really just rent movies and buy kid movies so that the kids can watch them more than once. Just keep it simple is what will succeed in the mainstream...and that is where the money is. I will also admit I rip my purchased DVD's and then Handbrake them so they are on ATV...all behind the scene geeking out that my wife and kids don't want to or care about. I am fine with the quality and so is my family...I know others are not and I respect that. I would like to see ATV support more codecs...wouldn't mind a blueray player to be included with that too.

Just so you know, I did geek out with Boxee alpha on ATV and then into Beta, but it just never clicked with the family. UI is very important...hence the fact that the iPhone, iTouch, and now iPad are the first successful tablets. All others were trying to accomplish it but if you try and run a program that is designed with a mouse and keyboard, it is tough going if you don't have those accessories. Programs need to be designed with the specific UI in mind.

In my simple mind, all I think we need (and there are rumors it is coming) is ATV with iOS. Apps can be developed (hopefully Pandora and Hulu would be part of that) and I think the possibilities are almost endless. Who knows what great things all those minds out there can dream up.

Anyways, the new mini is nice but...
 
It appears that the removal of hard drive on Mac Mini (non-server) would be exactly the same. They just did not show it in the tear-down. They left it until the very end even though the removal of logic board did not seem necessary to get to the one and only hard drive.
 
Are Plex and XBMC grown out from people that want to hoard media? I remember wanting to amount a collection of media but I don't buy anything anymore. It's disposable to me now and ownership isn't what it used to be.
 
Does Apple know what budget means?? I don't understand why we don't see an entry level mac for under $500..

Partially, because that, $500 is where the zone iPhone and iPad are priced. Yes they are not direct equivalents, but Apple certainly wants to give them breathing room to grow. Rightly or wrongly they may be counting on some folks selecting an iPad is hard pressed to a $550 budget cap. Either that or used/refurbed. They also want them separated but not tooooo far from the iMacs. Put a large enough gap between mini and iMac and will start to get some cannibalization effect on bottom end of the iMac.

Notice how the server can't get any higher so stuck at $999. (least it creep into iMac space which it cannot enter). While can't go too low also can't get too high either. mini: $999 , $699 ... a $300 gap. Very similar to the approx $300 gap between the iMac. and $300-400 gap between MacBookPros and between MacPros.

there is a budget. The budget is $300 between offerings. Appears the mini design blew a good chunk of it on an expensive case.


However, more importantly because Apple holds it targeted margin roughly the same across the all the product lines. A $500 computer with 30-40% margins would be hobbled against the competition (even if let MacOS claim a good chunk just like Windows does). The higher the price the more flexibility have to add parts to give value. In this case they are selling 'small and compact' as a value. Dell has a "small compact green" offering that is about just as high if not higher in some configs.

Strategy is quite different when compared against vendors who drop the margins on the lower end and raise them higher above Apple's on the highest end and hope for some average blended return across the ranges. In Apple's approach, one product line is not supporting the other.

The mini is still in part aimed at folks who already have established commitments to keyboards and monitors to differentiate it from the iMac.

As long as year over year mac sales go up each quarter going to be tough to argue with them that they are somehow restricting the flow of people onto the mac platform.
 
14 dB...now that is quiet

14 dB...now that is quiet

Wait until you stumble upon a website that uses flash or play some youtube videos. The fan will go into overdrive and your neighbor will hear it ...he/she will ask you politely to only visit sites without flash and stop watching those time wasting youtube videos:rolleyes:
 
14 dB...now that is quiet

Wait until you stumble upon a website that uses flash or play some youtube videos. The fan will go into overdrive and your neighbor will hear it ...he/she will ask you politely to only visit sites without flash and stop watching those time wasting youtube videos:rolleyes:

Click2Flash + HTML5 Youtube.

Next please.
 
... I think, other than non-mainstream shows that are not streaming, DVR is dying.

DVR is not dying. Even Jobs effectively said so. The cable/tv box folks have the upper hand right now. Their boxes tend to do a mix of on demand and DVR ( although the UIs could use some improvement. )


Likewise broadcast transmission of content is several orders magnitude more efficient. Broadcast over one channel and 10 million DVRs can stream "American Idol" to disk in a 10 million way parallel operation. If had 10 million computers all beating up on a single set of servers... servers probably croaks ( ala iPhone pre-order meltdown. ). If millions of folks want copies of exactly the same thing at exactly the same time it is far , far, far, far more effective to just do a general broadcast that everyone copies.

The DVR (with very large storage capacity ) allows users to time shift the view to whenever they want. Once on the disk DVRs is just as good as ATV (minor quibbles about interface preferences and widgets notwithstanding. A simple navigation interface is all really need. ).


(hopefully Pandora and Hulu would be part of that) and I think the possibilities are almost endless. Who knows what great things all those minds out there can dream up.

Pandora and Hulu are likely to work straight from the TV in a couple of years. Not even going to need any external box to make it work. It will stream straight from their servers to the TV's internet connection. If not going to store it (or only storing a temporary cache buffer) neither ATV nor DVR storage is of much benefit or added value at all.
 
Are Plex and XBMC grown out from people that want to hoard media? I remember wanting to amount a collection of media but I don't buy anything anymore. It's disposable to me now and ownership isn't what it used to be.

Some still care about quality. Video on the net just isn't there, yet.
 
This endless bitching about the $100 USD price hike is getting sickening from many people here. Did it occur to anyone here that Apple did this out of a strategy? Look at the Mac mini server, most likely they want to sell you this machine. For $300 more you get dual 7200 RPM hard drives, faster processor and double the ram. Buy a copy of Snow Leopard for $29 and you've got a really great computer for a media center which is what many people want the mini for. Instead of just sitting around complaining all day try and look at the strategy behind it.
 
Some still care about quality. Video on the net just isn't there, yet.
I understand that. I just keep hearing about terabytes of storage on some NAS that a HTPC is connected to. It reminds me of a wall of DVDs or dare I say VHS tapes.

You're talking to someone with 768 kbps internet as well. Streaming media is a chore.


This endless bitching about the $100 USD price hike is getting sickening from many people here. Did it occur to anyone here that Apple did this out of a strategy? Look at the Mac mini server, most likely they want to sell you this machine. For $300 more you get dual 7200 RPM hard drives, faster processor and double the ram. Buy a copy of Snow Leopard for $29 and you've got a really great computer for a media center which is what many people want the mini for. Instead of just sitting around complaining all day try and look at the strategy behind it.
Why would I want an OS X Server at home? $699 already gets enough complaints.
 
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