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My order status still says shipping September. That is what they said as well. As far as I am concerned from now till September 30 they are right on target.
And please wake up people. This will be a full install disk.
 
The UK version of the up-to-date program is a bit confusing to me and I'm having doubts that I'll get the upgrade DVD which I paid for on launch-day. For some reason I don't trust it...

So in cases like this, it'd be great to have a nice .dmg package ready to be installed in case my suspicions come true!

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.

There's nothing not to trust ... if you bought a Mac after June 8th, you qualify for the Up To Date program at a cost of £7.95.

If you bought your Mac before June 8th, then you need to have Leopard installed. If your system came with Leopard by default, you simply buy the $29/£20 upgrade disc.

If your disc doesn't come on launch day, will it pain you that much to wait an extra day for the Postman?

Honestly, if you want to pirate the software then you will ... but don't make up daft reasons in some attempt at self justification.
 
If peoples cards are being charged, and order update info says "preparing for shipment" and they are training their staff on how tho use SL and people are getting grey restore discs in their new Macs- then its kind of a waste of time to being baffled-IF you wait it to be Sept- just wait until Sept 1234- to purchase -In which case you could be certain it is being pushed out the door before the labor day holiday;
Each one of these by themselves wouldnt be too exciting-that they all are being seen at once says next week-maybe Tuesday

Since this is not a MAJOR release as such- this could be why APPLE is not attending to details like normal

Who knows? see you in SL on 082809
 
I agree.

Apple needs to set a date and stop this speculation.

1. They set a date. September 2009. That trailing edge ends in about a month. I wonder if the worldwide roll out will be complete by then?

2. They benefit from the "confusion" as it appears to be "buzz" to the rest of us.

3. We have now seen the first official 10.6 disc "in the wild", so the other leading edge of the time bracket has been "exceeded" by about a week.

Nothing to see here about "missing deadlines", move along.

Be smart. Wait for 10.6.1 or 10.6.2 to upgrade on an important machine.

Rocketman
 
Can't be !

Hi folks,

Here is my view on the issue :

- I have the latest build and IT IS BUGGY. So it CANNOT be the final Golden Master, unless Apple is joining Microsoft quality standard. Apple make quality and reliable products, and Snow Leopard is not yet stable enough.

- From releasing the latest build of SL to (assuming) releasing the final product on the 28 August 2009, Apple DO HAVE enough time to fix stuff. As well, it is possible that they announce and release it in the coming week.

- Apple states a release for September (in the last Apple Events and on the site), so why on earth would they release it before ?

I think, they will release it early September, and announce it before.
 
Keep in mind that people pirate music to avoid paying $1.

I don't think your accusatory tone is fair, though - I plan to buy SL, and not pirate it, and I'm interested in knowing the build number. Is it a release that's been seeded to devs? Is it stable?

People steal music that is $1 because they don't want record companies to make .90 off of each song. People also steal music because they want thousands of songs, not one. If everyone filled their 120 GB iPod with music from the iTunes store, they'd be broke.
 
I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever.

There's nothing not to trust ... if you bought a Mac after June 8th, you qualify for the Up To Date program at a cost of £7.95.

If you bought your Mac before June 8th, then you need to have Leopard installed. If your system came with Leopard by default, you simply buy the $29/£20 upgrade disc.

If your disc doesn't come on launch day, will it pain you that much to wait an extra day for the Postman?

Honestly, if you want to pirate the software then you will ... but don't make up daft reasons in some attempt at self justification.

I didn't like the whole process of how it's done using paper forms and sending copies of receipts and stuff even though I bought it online at the apple store... surely they could have done it all online so that it's actually 100% traceable and able to let me check if they've got all the right information regarding shipping address and payment method etc.

So for that reason, I don't trust it to deliver what I'll pay for when I expect it to be delivered, and that's all there is to it really.

If your disc doesn't come on launch day, will it pain you that much to wait an extra day for the Postman?

Knowing myself, I'm pretty sure I'll definitely want it the day it gets released. I don't like waiting.

Do you consider downloading torrents as piracy even if you've already purchased the product?
 
There are two links for the up-to-date program. One for purchases made "directly from the Apple Online Store" and one for "an Apple Retail Store or an Apple Authorised Reseller". Try both and see if one of them works.

Thank you so much, that other link there works. I bought the Macbook from the Apple Online Store which I accessed from my College's network (nice discounts on some stuff). The linked pages look the same, but one works and one doesn't.

Serously, thanks!
 
Apple site:
Coming September 2009 with every new Mac.

I dont know why everyone thought the release date was September, Apple never specified a release date just a new mac shipping date.
 
Amazon



I highly doubt Amazon will get it to you on release date. It's likely Amazon won't even receive their shipment until the release date. And their free shipping on Snow Leopard says it may take 10-12 business days for delivery (extra processing time due to free shipping, ground UPS service, etc).

It's been rare that Amazon could even get me a Blu-ray or DVD release on its launch date with Amazon Prime shipping. Unless they explicitly state release date delivery, don't expect it.

You have some terrible luck with Amazon then. Every single Blu-Ray or video game I've ever ordered from them has arrived on or before release date. Some movies I'll get 5 days early.
 
Mine still says backordered - with no ship date or method indicated - I had to do mine via the mail in order form since the web form was not working for me.
 
All im saying is: Expect to see a new build.

Probably the last buildon friday infact.
I think the release is still september.

Thank god for that, a new build friday...that WILL be gold Master (RTM)


I mean there really ain't much they need to work on now and, to be honest, they can always patch any tiny bugs in the first week.....like they did with Leopard. then again Leopard was just out-n-out a piece of **** my my mind.

I still don't understand why Apple allow you to install Quciktime 7, even though, accoridng to Apple quicktime 10 has the same support and also, supports more codecs, such as xvid and wmv?

i'm able to run PPC only apps still, without rosetta being installed. Thats wrong surely to god.

therefore it's not Intel ONLY afterall BOOOO
 
You have some terrible luck with Amazon then. Every single Blu-Ray or video game I've ever ordered from them has arrived on or before release date. Some movies I'll get 5 days early.

The studios provide the content to their distributors early since they do not have any distribution of their own. Amazon probably has blu ray releases for movies a week before there street date.

Apple doesn't have to follow that system since they have their own distribution system and can control things better. Amazon probably doesn't get OS discs until just before an announcement is made - that and their agreements with shipping company differ.
 
Apple site:


I dont know why everyone thought the release date was September, Apple never specified a release date just a new mac shipping date.

No, it was mentioned by Apple as the available time frame for Snow Leopard in general.

Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will be available in September 2009. Here’s how to get it.

You can see that on the right hand side here.
 
I asked on the Engadget site but they probably took if off another forum. Not even sure how popular Engadget is in Japan :S
 
GMs are always buggy

I have the latest build and IT IS BUGGY. So it CANNOT be the final Golden Master, unless Apple is joining Microsoft quality standard. Apple make quality and reliable products, and Snow Leopard is not yet stable enough.

Bugs in a GM release of Mac OS X are not a very good heuristic of their readiness or I guess ‘retail-ability’. Apple has shipped major releases of Mac OS X with severe data loss bugs.

In 10.4, the text list feature in the Cocoa Text System was reported to cause all text below a list to vanish on save.

Apple's policy on initial releases of Mac OS X appears to be just to have a solid foundation for the system and the higher-level frameworks can be patched in the 2-3 releases following its availability. There is good reason why a lot of folks here have stated they wait until 10.x.3 till making the move.

I think Snow Leopard may be scrutinized on this level more than any other previous release simply because it delivers to the user what was promised, an upgrade to Leopard, so there aren't a lot of wow features for people to play with. The real stuff is the backend with GCD and the gradual move to implicit parallelism that it seems to be signaling. clang is looking good and might replace GCC as the default compiler for Mac OS X by 10.7.

It's going to be interesting going forward.
 
I still don't understand why Apple allow you to install Quciktime 7, even though, accoridng to Apple quicktime 10 has the same support and also, supports more codecs, such as xvid and wmv?
Probably because Quicktime X has a different focus from Quicktime 7 and they offer if for support not built in to version X

i'm able to run PPC only apps still, without rosetta being installed. Thats wrong surely to god.

therefore it's not Intel ONLY afterall BOOOO

No. Rosetta is intel software that emulates PPC hardware. That is a far cry from saying that SL is not "intel only" Its only intel as far as installed hardware. You are talking about two very different things.
 
All im saying is: Expect to see a new build.

Probably the last buildon friday infact.
I think the release is still september.

Thank god for that, a new build friday...that WILL be gold Master (RTM)


I mean there really ain't much they need to work on now and, to be honest, they can always patch any tiny bugs in the first week.....like they did with Leopard. then again Leopard was just out-n-out a piece of **** my my mind.

I still don't understand why Apple allow you to install Quciktime 7, even though, accoridng to Apple quicktime 10 has the same support and also, supports more codecs, such as xvid and wmv?

i'm able to run PPC only apps still, without rosetta being installed. Thats wrong surely to god.

therefore it's not Intel ONLY afterall BOOOO

???...sounds like spin to me............
 
There's precedent for the late announcement. However, it's been a while since they've waited this late to announce it. Oddly enough they last did this with 10.1 Puma, which more than few people have compared 10.6 Snow Leopard to.

I posted this is another thread:

10.0 Cheetah 3 Days
Release date announced on March 21, available Saturday, March 24, 2001

10.1 Puma 4 Days
Release date announced on Sept. 25, available Saturday, Sept. 29, 2001

10.2 Jaguar 38 Days
Release date announced on July 17, available Saturday, Aug. 24, 2002

10.3 Panther 16 Days
Release date announced and pre-order became available on Oct. 8, available Friday, Oct. 24, 2003

10.4 Tiger 17 Days
Release date announced and pre-order became available on April 12, available Friday, April 29, 2005

10.5 Leopard 10 Days
Release date announced and pre-order became available on Oct. 16, available Friday, Oct. 26, 2007

Source: Apple's PR Library, www.apple.com/pr

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/mar/21osxstore.html
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2001/sep/25osx_available.html
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2002/jul/17jaguar.html
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/oct/08panther.html
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/apr/12tiger.html
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/16leopard.html

Lmao, this is not only the first OS X copy for Apple to actually ship ON its release date that they said it would be... but even BEFORE it. Haha. Cept it's buggy as f*ck.
 
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