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My 1Ghz 17" G4 iMac crashed after installing the update. now it doesn't boot anymore.
Does this had to happen while writting on my exams.

Luckily I've got an 15" AL PB as well and could transfer my data within firewire-target-mode.

Does anyone have the same problems?

cheers
 
my desktop linux machine-
matt@ginbrandy:~$ w
14:16:01 up 91 days, 1:02, 32 users, load average: 0.57, 0.26, 0.14

my desktop mac-
whiterussian:~ matt$ w
14:14 up 6 days, 2:24, 3 users, load averages: 2.27 1.66 1.27

my database server (linux also)
bash-2.05a$ w
2:19pm up 741 days, 3:25, 4 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.00


updates don't take down the linux machine, they force reboots on the mac. Last time I rebooted the linux machine was when the people came to check the power outlets. The mac reboots every couple weeks from software update, and the database server was turned on the day after we bought it and hasn't rebooted since.

Long uptimes are normal for Unices. If only Apple could figure out a way so software update didn't require a reboot so often.
 
lostngone said:
I have the first Gen Dual 2Ghz G5 and it sounds like a few other people with the same version as mine are having the same problem.
I have never had a fan problem before going to 10.3.8.

Is it only a problem with the first Gen Dual systems?


No... I have a second generation dual 2ghz G5 and am having the same problem.
 
Someone on the Discussion Board thread for "Dual 2.5Mhz Fans" pointed out that the LED on the power button is now always off...Mine too..wonderful...Must have been causing too much heat ; ) Anyone else seeing this?

Way to fix a problem by creating more problems Apple. My DP2.5 has been revving like crazy since I got it. I've patiently waited for an update to fix it...and you release this. Well its solved 1 problem. It stops me from calling to insist on a downgrade to a DP2.0 since they have the problem no too.
 
I haven't experienced any fan problems on my 1st Gen Dualie. Is it only affecting 2nd gen machines?
 
Seems like it is the same

I think the only thing this 28 meg file did was change the number in the "About this Mac" screen.

I'm sure it tweaked a few things but I notice ZERO change.

Oh well must be one of the lucky few.

My only complaint is that Safari will ONLY put McRumor forum smileys at the end of a message when I click on them. Score one for Firefox

EDIT: for clairification, this was to say that my second gen G5 has not altered its behavior. And to comment on the light thing... to the best of my knowledge the power light has always gone off while running - an astetic thing like on the monitors - no piercing white eye staring at you while your are editing graphics... They both come on in sleep mode though.

Mac-Xpert said:
I'm reading some contradicting stories here on the influence of this update on the fan behavior on the G5's

Could any users with a G5 Dual 2.5 GHz tell me if this update changed (improved of the opposite) the behavior of the fans on your machine.

Im still on 10.3.4. which runs rock solid for me, and haven't seen the need to upgrade yet. However I always keep my machine in Reduced mode to keep the fans down, and only put it in Highest when I really need the power. Both the Automatic and Highest mode gets the fans spinning up way too often to my liking.

Does 10.3.8 make any difference?
 
Lacero said:
Oh Great! :( Got to reboot. Gonna lose my 3 days uptime record. Boo hoo.

3 days uptime record? I leave my G4 on 24/7 and only reboot when an installation requires it. Why in the world would you have only a 3 day uptime RECORD? My 450 has went at least a month or more without a reboot. Rock solid OS X! Try that on a PC.

Anyway, the update went great for me. System overall seems a bit sluggish though. I'm gonna run a few diagnostics to see if there's a problem anywhere. It's probably just because I am stuck with a dinosaur of a PowerMac (450mhz G4 AGP).
 
Outlook... works?

MikeAtari said:
The only thing that really works on Windows is Outlook.
Bill reads email. :(

If Outlook "works" to Bill's eye, I really, really have to wonder about that man. :rolleyes:

I have never, ever, had the misfortune of using such a convoluted, complicated, byzantine program as Microsoft Outlook. Sure, it processes email, but I feel like I'm on an Easter egg hunt when I'm trying to change program options ("Where do I set an email signature again?"). Way too complicated for it's own good. :D
 
10.3.8 Causes Kernel Panic

Hello hello, it's certainly been a while since I've posted here.

Reason I'm posting is to tell everyone that the 10.3.8 update caused some serious trouble with my PowerBook. I reinstalled Mac OS X a few days ago (before 10.3.8 was released) to make it easier for me to clean up all of the useless crap that has accumulated on my hard drive. I made sure I made a bootable backup everything onto my external hard drive. I downloaded the combined 10.3.8 update that was supposed to update my machine from the current 10.3.4 (which was the version that came on my PowerBook Restore CDs). I pushed the install button, typed my admin password, and let it do it's magic. I left it alone while it was updating and went to work on some assignments. About an hour later, I came to check on it, and it seemed to be stuck at the "Installing Update" part of the process, with the spinning beachball keeping it company. I thought to myself "Hmmm...now this is odd...", so I watched it for a few minutes to see if any progress whatsoever was made. None took place, so I clicked back to the Finder (the only other application that was open) to see if the whole machine was locked into the beachball. It seemed fine at first, but when I moved my cursor to the dock it became apparent that the dock was frozen and out of commission. Then the Finder locked up too. At this point, I was like "Well s***, this ain't cool!" It also wouldn't respond to keyboard commands, including the Volume and Brightness buttong.

I left it for a few more minutes, to no avail, and decided I should restart it and hope for the best. On startup, my PowerBook ran into a kernel panic, which didn't surprise me one bit. I restarted again just to make sure it wasn't a freak occurance, and there was another kernel panic. (BTW, this is the first kernel panic I've EVER witnessed under Mac OS X, after using it since 10.1 was released on everything from an old 500MHz iMac to my current PB G4) I popped in my Mac OS X Software Restore CD, and installed another copy of Mac OS X.3.4 on the hard drive, with the 'broken' system being thrown into a "Previous Systems" folder. That's what I'm running off now, and everything seems fine. All of my files and a bootable system are still on my external hard drive, so there's no worries :rolleyes:

I'm running Mac OS 10.3.4 on a 1.33GHz 12" PowerBook that I bought back in August for university. It's the Combo-drive model, shipped stock. It still has only the 256MB of RAM that it came with, though I mean to triple it sometime in the next month or so. While updating to 10.3.8 (well, trying to, anyway), the only thing that was plugged into my PB was the power plug. I have an Airport Express wireless network that I use here, that was turned on and broadcasting internet access for the whole process, if that makes any differrence.

Comments? Thoughts? Suggestions? How bad have I screwed up? :eek:
 
solution

Boot from an exturnal boot CD and run disk repair - I felt really silly when I lugged my 2.5 to the store and in 2 minutes my problem was solved - of course that is because I had no boot CD 10.3.4 caused Kernal Panic due to 6800 card and no drivers on that OS cd. Now I have a an exturnal HD with the OS for this problem. (WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED SINCE)

Try that and cross fingers!

Edit: I see you tried that.... Hmmm... try again after a fresh restart? or stick with 10.3.4?

elfin buddy said:
Hello hello, it's certainly been a while since I've posted here.

Reason I'm posting is to tell everyone that the 10.3.8 update caused some serious trouble with my PowerBook. I reinstalled Mac OS X a few days ago (before 10.3.8 was released) to make it easier for me to clean up all of the useless crap that has accumulated on my hard drive. I made sure I made a bootable backup everything onto my external hard drive. I downloaded the combined 10.3.8 update that was supposed to update my machine from the current 10.3.4 (which was the version that came on my PowerBook Restore CDs). I pushed the install button, typed my admin password, and let it do it's magic. I left it alone while it was updating and went to work on some assignments. About an hour later, I came to check on it, and it seemed to be stuck at the "Installing Update" part of the process, with the spinning beachball keeping it company. I thought to myself "Hmmm...now this is odd...", so I watched it for a few minutes to see if any progress whatsoever was made. None took place, so I clicked back to the Finder (the only other application that was open) to see if the whole machine was locked into the beachball. It seemed fine at first, but when I moved my cursor to the dock it became apparent that the dock was frozen and out of commission. Then the Finder locked up too. At this point, I was like "Well s***, this ain't cool!" It also wouldn't respond to keyboard commands, including the Volume and Brightness buttong.

I left it for a few more minutes, to no avail, and decided I should restart it and hope for the best. On startup, my PowerBook ran into a kernel panic, which didn't surprise me one bit. I restarted again just to make sure it wasn't a freak occurance, and there was another kernel panic. (BTW, this is the first kernel panic I've EVER witnessed under Mac OS X, after using it since 10.1 was released on everything from an old 500MHz iMac to my current PB G4) I popped in my Mac OS X Software Restore CD, and installed another copy of Mac OS X.3.4 on the hard drive, with the 'broken' system being thrown into a "Previous Systems" folder. That's what I'm running off now, and everything seems fine. All of my files and a bootable system are still on my external hard drive, so there's no worries :rolleyes:

I'm running Mac OS 10.3.4 on a 1.33GHz 12" PowerBook that I bought back in August for university. It's the Combo-drive model, shipped stock. It still has only the 256MB of RAM that it came with, though I mean to triple it sometime in the next month or so. While updating to 10.3.8 (well, trying to, anyway), the only thing that was plugged into my PB was the power plug. I have an Airport Express wireless network that I use here, that was turned on and broadcasting internet access for the whole process, if that makes any differrence.

Comments? Thoughts? Suggestions? How bad have I screwed up? :eek:
 
The only ill effects I have seen from this update on my PowerBook (15" w/ backlit keyboard) is some new system log activity:

Feb 10 09:19:47 localhost kernel: AppleLMUController: setLEDBrightness - Brightness level requested at: 0x00000FF2.
Feb 10 09:19:47 localhost kernel: AppleLMUController: kbdFadeTimerAction.
Feb 10 09:19:47 localhost kernel: AppleLMUController: setLEDBrightness - Brightness level requested at: 0x00000FFB.
Feb 10 09:19:47 localhost kernel: AppleLMUController: setLEDFade - Fade to brightness level: 0x00000FFB.
Feb 10 09:20:18 localhost last message repeated 146 times
Feb 10 09:22:19 localhost last message repeated 560 times
Feb 10 09:22:54 localhost last message repeated 163 times

Maybe it is just me, but having that many repeated messages in such a short time does not seem good. I never noticed this before. Having 'Ahem...!' Konfabulator widget makes this sort of thing stand out.

Other than that, Mail seems to open faster and the 'jumping cursor' is gone.
 
yeah, changes

wrldwzrd89 said:
...I don't see any reason why two-finger scrolling couldn't be implemented on older PowerBooks, unless Apple made hardware changes to the trackpad in the latest revision...

there have been reports for the last several days on apple rumor sites as well as the general business media that apple has nixed its prior trackpad manufacturer in order to intro the new-featured pad, so it's quite likely there have been hardware changes. :)

terry
 
Wireless Router issue

Updated to 10.3.8 with no issues other than....Using a Netgear wireless router with the standard issue Apple Airport card in my Powerbook 1.25. Upon reawakening, Airport is still on but Netgear is no longer selected. I have to reselect it it every time. A small issue of course but just curious if anyone else has experienced this dropping of the wireless network problem after sleeping. The computer that is :)

JD
 
With a FULL battery I intalled the update restarted around 90% battery life remaining. Then it wouldn't boot. I plugged in the power adapter and it booted perfect again. weird eh?
 
when i opened up me iBook this morning after charging during the night, the machine was locked up. the screen was on how i had left it, but it didn't respond to the keyboard or mouse.

i took out the battery and then restarted.

never had any problems like this before. reminds me of windows. bleh.
 
So many posts here I don't have the time to go through all to see if anyone has pointed out the power light "pumping" faster than before when in sleep mode? My G51.8MkII now has both faster pulse and respiration. Waiting for the stroke :confused:
mrfsig5.gif

Oh and true, the light is off when the machine is on. Didn't notice before as it's under the table...
 
HP Printer

After the last security update my HP 2510 All-in-One printer crapped out. 10.3.8 seems to have fixed it!
 
iPhoto and Expose are snappier on my G3 ibook after the update. overall performance is otherwise much the same.

no problems so far...
 
iriejedi said:
I think the only thing this 28 meg file did was change the number in the "About this Mac" screen.

I'm sure it tweaked a few things but I notice ZERO change.
Thanks for the feedback. Just a number change in the "About this Mac" screen or to be able to say that I have "the latest / greatest" installed on my machine won't do it for me. ;)

P.s.
BTW, indeed the led on the screen is off when the computer is running, and the Power led on the G5 is on. This doesn't have anything to do with 10.3.8. :)
 
tocheers said:
My 1Ghz 17" G4 iMac crashed after installing the update. now it doesn't boot anymore.
Does this had to happen while writting on my exams.

Luckily I've got an 15" AL PB as well and could transfer my data within firewire-target-mode.

Does anyone have the same problems?

cheers
I installed it on my 1.25GHz 17" G4 iMac last night with no ill effects. Everything appears to be running smoothly.
 
Mac-Xpert said:
BTW, indeed the led on the screen is off when the computer is running, and the Power led on the G5 is on. This doesn't have anything to do with 10.3.8. :)

On mine, both are now off when running. Has everything to do with 10.3.8.
 
WOW! iPhoto

I just launched iPhoto and it kicked in at 1 second. I used to have to wait at least 15 seconds! I also had issues on the rendering of photos when scaling, thats fixed too!

The OS is much quicker. nice

Nice update Apple! :eek:
 
Installed 10.3.8 fine from the combo updater (I always download the Combo updaters and burn them to CD so I can get back to full speed ASAP if I ever need to re-install the system software etc.)

Haven't noticed any real changes on my 15" AlPB... but still, it's nice to keep up to date ;)

j
 
I'm on the first gen dual 1.8G5 and my fans sorta go haywire. But I left it on all night doing some encoding, and they aren't going crazy right now. So maybe it adapts... like the Borg.
 
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