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iJon said:
right now i would state fake cause you know how much we like to looks for the fun ways to prove its fake. on the stealth page they left the period off the middle statement, while the top and bottom ones do have it. yes its small but could easily be a typo if someone worked this up.

iJon

In Panther 10.3.4, in the Appearances panel, none of the options have a period after them except for the last one ("Turn off text smoothing..."), even though some of the other choices are also complete sentences. My guess is that the period should just not be there.

In Energy Saver, "Show battery status in the menu bar" has no period, whereas "Put hard disks to sleep when possible." does. Period usage is irregular throught system preferences as I look at it now: sometimes they are used and sometimes not. If there's a logic behind it, then I'll stand corrected.

I'm sure we could find more punctuation inconsistencies if we looked. Once again, I don't think the merits of these screenshots are based on spelling or punctuation.
 
LaMerVipere said:
The firewall options seem the most fake to me, and the description of this supposed "stealth mode" sounds like it was written by some scifi obsessed nerdy teenager! Trying so sound all cool about it, puuuuuuuhleeeez :rolleyes:

"Stealth Mode" is a common term for a firewall setting that ignores any unrequested connections, instead of responding with "Port Closed" exposing the existence of a computer at that IP address.

Nothing Sci-Fi about it :rolleyes:
 
2A Batterie said:
I'll apologize first for probably asking a dumb question, but what's the big deal about an OSX update? I"m new at this whole "computer" thing, so I don't understand all of your modern technology so I'm scared and confused. But really, why all the hype over a most-likely fake set of Tiger screen shots? I could care less. I really get excited when a new app (like garageband or an update of logic or Protools) is released, but why should I be amped about Tiger?

Because (and this is really cutting it down to the bare basics) for about $129 your computer gets faster every OS release. And if your OS responds quicker, your apps respond quicker.

This is without even considering any new workflow tools they throw in for good measure (expose, services, contextual menus etc), which save me (and presumably any one else who uses them) a WHOLE load of time. I actually went to the sad extreme of comparing 2 days workload through my standard apps (illustrator > photoshop > After Effects or Shake > FCP > DVD studio), one using expose, one not. The day i used expose I saved myself over an hour. Can't really beat that for a time saving feature. :)
 
autrefois said:
I'm sure we could find more punctuation inconsistencies if we looked. Once again, I don't think the merits of these screenshots are based on spelling or punctuation.

Right..this is a good point. But there still fake...
 
nsb3000 said:
I don't think so. Apple only discontinued its last g3 based product with the introduction of the iBook g4 in Oct. 2003. Assuming that Tiger comes out in Oct 04, this means that Apple would not be supporting Machines that were only a year old. I would accept no g3 support for 10.5, but not 10.4...


I was told it will not release until the first of the year......

And as far as not supporting G3's.... Again I was told they would PROBABLY not be supported
 
macsrus said:
I was told it will not release until the first of the year......

And as far as not supporting G3's.... Again I was told they would PROBABLY not be supported

By whom? There has been absolutely no official statement by Apple on either the release date, or system compatibility - therefore we're disregarding what you've been "told" as rumor and conjecture :p
 
2A Batterie said:
I'll apologize first for probably asking a dumb question, but what's the big deal about an OSX update? I"m new at this whole "computer" thing, so I don't understand all of your modern technology so I'm scared and confused. But really, why all the hype over a most-likely fake set of Tiger screen shots? I could care less. I really get excited when a new app (like garageband or an update of logic or Protools) is released, but why should I be amped about Tiger?

The OS contains a bunch of code that is shared or reused by all the apps, so an OS update can make all your existing progs suddenly get better.
 
There are so many G3 still running, that it would not seem fair to not support them. The rumor mill on this will be ended in 48 hours. Which reminds me where is the count down clock?
 
Hmmm, no finder pictures? I also have to believe there are more user interface changes other than gadgets? Also the about box looks cut off.

It looks like a fake and smells like a fake, it's probably a fake

If it's real, prove it! Post more screenshots. :D
 
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Look at how the icons are lit -- it seems uneven. Some are lit more brightly than others. Some don't have their entire icon / description lit, like "Desktop & Screen Saver."
 
The GNAA website is so fake. Their press release seems to be poking fun at Mac users and gays alike, so let's say fake for the screenies, too. Even though the concepts aren't too bad.

I'm amazed we haven't had much leaked info about Tiger still. It will have to either blow us away or be hugely lack-luster and be the most useless update yet.
 
applekid said:
The GNAA website is so fake. Their press release seems to be poking fun at Mac users and gays alike, so let's say fake for the screenies, too. Even though the concepts aren't too bad.

I'm amazed we haven't had much leaked info about Tiger still. It will have to either blow us away or be hugely lack-luster and be the most useless update yet.

Tiger will "blow us away", especially with the new eye-candy, but these shots? As fake as Pammy's. ;)
 
the silver fox said:
Exactly! A release on a DVD with the usual system specific installations. Apple has become very good at supporting emulation (classic etc) so it would be very easy for them to run a 32bit emulation space within the 64 code to make sure that all the current apps still have support.
macsrus said:
Tiger WILL be 64 bit.....

A 64-bit OS means nothing. You can already run apps higher than 32-bit in Panther. So if you can run 64-bit Apps in Tiger, but Tiger remains 32-bit - where's the disappointment in that? What is the benefit of a 64-bit OS? Maybe a few seconds faster on the G5 machines. Not entirely useful when your leaving out G3 and G4 users. And Apple will not release 2 different version of the client OS. It will confuse many people, just like Windows XP Home and Pro confuses people. Apple will probably not release a 64-bit OS until all their computers have been 64-bit for at least a year. Even then it's ify.
 
The PDF readme is a fake.

The typeface is not Apple's standard Myraid typeface. Enuff said.

It has one of the most common typographical error not seen in Apple's literature - The Apostrophe Menace.

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These are just fake, period. Anyone who puts any stock in them is an idiot. I can't believe that MacRumors even ran this by saying that it likely was real.
 
BULL****

In the System Prefs one, it's searching for "D". However, "recent items" has no D in it.
 
7on said:
A 64-bit OS means nothing. You can already run apps higher than 32-bit in Panther. So if you can run 64-bit Apps in Tiger, but Tiger remains 32-bit - where's the disappointment in that? What is the benefit of a 64-bit OS? Maybe a few seconds faster on the G5 machines. Not entirely useful when your leaving out G3 and G4 users. And Apple will not release 2 different version of the client OS. It will confuse many people, just like Windows XP Home and Pro confuses people. Apple will probably not release a 64-bit OS until all their computers have been 64-bit for at least a year. Even then it's ify.

64 bit may not be important to you.... but it is extremely important to me and my customers....
I have many applications that require larger than 4 gig memory per single thread/process...

I would like to be able to port these to OSX and get the benifit of the fused-multiply add that the ppc970 floating point unit has...

Until then I'm stuck using overpriced Itaniums/SGI's/ and Power 3/4s

And before someone brings up an opteron it cant do fused multiply add. And its floating point performance is about 50% of what those others are(Clock hertz for clock hertz)


I have been personally told that Tiger will have a 64 bit kernel....

One thing that hasnt been made clear.... because unfortunatly I didnt ask, is whether or not the 64 bit kernel will only be offered as OSX server... and not for the desktop
 
7on said:
A 64-bit OS means nothing. You can already run apps higher than 32-bit in Panther. So if you can run 64-bit Apps in Tiger, but Tiger remains 32-bit - where's the disappointment in that? What is the benefit of a 64-bit OS? Maybe a few seconds faster on the G5 machines. Not entirely useful when your leaving out G3 and G4 users. And Apple will not release 2 different version of the client OS. It will confuse many people, just like Windows XP Home and Pro confuses people. Apple will probably not release a 64-bit OS until all their computers have been 64-bit for at least a year. Even then it's ify.

The OS currently installs variations of itself, depending on which hardware it sees as its destination, this would work exactly the same for a 64 bit installation. Since it is going to install itself, I'm interested to know why you think this is going to confuse people? Apple are hardly going to let Windows sneak ahead into the realm of the 64bit OS (already available on trial http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx and currently running at 15% faster than standard XP AS A BETA) given their current drive into enterprise with the Xserve and Xserve RAID. That would be a foolhardy mistake that Apple have made before and unlikely to make again (a 64 bit version of Premiere 1.5 Pro is in the works at Adobe to take advantage of the Opteron and Windows 64bit sytem - Again, Apple are not stupid enough to let that sneak ahead of a Tiger/FCP HD combo).

Moreover, to suggest that a 64bit OS means nothing is just plain ludicrous. Do you not want the OS to have the ability to access more memory than 4GB per application (particularly with Apple's Motion software just around the corner, which has a minimum suggested memory spec of 4GB). It hardly seems worthwhile having space for 8GB of RAM in a G5 does it? I don't want to get bogged down into the lengthy mechanics of explaing how a 64bit system is better. It just is.
 
macsrus said:
64 bit may not be important to you.... but it is extremely important to me and my customers....
I have many applications that require larger than 4 gig memory per single thread/process...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

64-bit computing by itself ONLY means that the General Purpose Registers are 64-bits wide. That means increased dynamic range. Using the binary number system, a 2-bit processor gives you 4 possible values, a 3-bit gives you 8, 4-bit gives you 16... and a 32-bit processor gives you 4,294,967,296 possible values. (sounds kinda close to the 4 GB RAM limit of 32-bit processors doesn't it? ) That is it's dynamic range. A 64-bit processor's dynamic range is approximately 4.3 billion times greater than a 32-bit processor... which simply means, it can work with much larger numbers.

64-bit computing also allows for more RAM than a 32-bit processor because of it's increased dynamic range. A 32-bit processor can only handle about 4.3 billion values, which translates to about 4 GB of memory. A 64-bit processor has an upper limit of about 18 million terabytes... (32-bit = 0.0043 terabytes... 64-bit = 18,000,000 terabytes).

That's speaking ONLY in terms of 64-bits vs. 32-bit... that has nothing to do with the architecture of the specific processors. I think I'm correct in suggesting that Apple used a 40-bit memory address rather than 64-bit since we're not going to need 18 million terabytes of memory anytime soon... The 40-bit address allows up to 1 terabyte of memory.

I think that is enough for most of us at the moment.
 
Just look at the Graphic in the PDF

Just look at the Graphic in the PDF its a 72 dpi gif or jpg. Apple uses high quality TIFF's in its PDF's people. Just look at any of the previous PDFs sent out by Apple on a CD/DVD. This is a really bad fake.
 
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