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Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) Screenshots?
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broken_keyboard said:
Ok Aldo... Please explain how a 16 year old has access to information that few others do? Seriously man, these are as fake as it gets!
However, the name behind the dashboard is genuine, although I believe that its use (as shown here) is erroneous. Think of the dashboard as more of an extension to the concept of 'contextual' menus.
Tiger is going to have alot more eye-candy (think along the lines of you aint seen nothing yet), but it will be tied into your workflow a lot more. Also expect the welcome return of desktop organisation tools (remember the "piles" concept anyone) and a whole host of rewritten code for us lucky G5 owners.
Moreover, I would like to point out that no matter how good the OS release is, it isn't going to make up for that goal being diss-allowed against Portugal on Thursday
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I hate when you get a lot of little apps and some bright spark says "hey lets make a manager app!" and everyone goes "wow, great idea!" and these dashboards etc appear.
I don't know how many times I've encountered this as a developer and it's because of the rationalistic thought processes of most software developers. In this case instead of the dashboard, they need the .Mac app. Along the same lines of the MS Office and iLife integrations, it would integrate calendar, contacts, world clock etc all in to one app. Bingo, no need for ghey dashboard.
"But then I don't get to design a framework!" the tedious rationalist says...
I don't know how many times I've encountered this as a developer and it's because of the rationalistic thought processes of most software developers. In this case instead of the dashboard, they need the .Mac app. Along the same lines of the MS Office and iLife integrations, it would integrate calendar, contacts, world clock etc all in to one app. Bingo, no need for ghey dashboard.
"But then I don't get to design a framework!" the tedious rationalist says...
broken_keyboard said:
I don't think we will see the dashboard used in this fashion. In fact I'm reasonably certain. As I have stated above, I think it will be contextual, more like pop up panels. It is a ridiculous concept to have the dashboard as an app management tool. One that certainly wouldn't be neccesary if the dock had better management tools. On a side note, I rarely use the Dock for anything anymore. I use Quicksilver for launching apps/document/clipboard management and expose to jump between apps to the right window. I really hope that Apple have done some work in that particular area.
that is a very funny mock up there silverfox.... just what i needed "ta very much like"
and whats quicksilver???
and whats quicksilver???
AL-FAMOUS said:
Quicksilver is the best application launcher/helper ever made. Very few people seem to know about it, but I can't get by without it. It has currently been withdrawn to alpha testing for the latest version, but betas of the version i use are posted here. http://blacktree.com/apps/quicksilver/
So simple. So powerful.
More stuff like that please Apple
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
The dashboard! Apple's UI people are asleep at the wheel. The mistakes made in Panther were just the beginning!
Check out the "Done" button. It isn't a button at all. It's hanging from the transparent window. Looks more like a Tab.
There is another trash can. Now there is one in a window, another in the dock.
Each of the dashboard apps are different colours and different styles. The consistency has completely gone, and there appears to be no UI guidelines adhered to on the apps.
The dashboard window has a big cross in it - like windows XP, and nothing like the close button on a normal Aqua window.
I hope it is a fake, but something tells me this isn't. Please let it be an early prototype, and Apple has done something better than this mess.
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
The dashboard! Apple's UI people are asleep at the wheel. The mistakes made in Panther were just the beginning!
Check out the "Done" button. It isn't a button at all. It's hanging from the transparent window. Looks more like a Tab.
There is another trash can. Now there is one in a window, another in the dock.
Each of the dashboard apps are different colours and different styles. The consistency has completely gone, and there appears to be no UI guidelines adhered to on the apps.
The dashboard window has a big cross in it - like windows XP, and nothing like the close button on a normal Aqua window.
I hope it is a fake, but something tells me this isn't. Please let it be an early prototype, and Apple has done something better than this mess.
Oh my god!
arn said:
This is a new shot Arn? Again, the detail is good, but anyone could produce this couldn't they?
the silver fox said:
Sorry. When I began typing, not many people had said that much. And it was on the front page not page 2 I think? Certainly glad this appears to all be a hoax then.
arn said:
I thought the way the Mac OS X gui worked was each frame is a PDF. So in that case this might be suggestive of a genuine screen grab - somehow they have grabbed the raw output of Quartz.
curmi said:
Safari tab "close button" uses a cross, not that inconsistent.
Agreed about the trash icon though, if Apple didn't include one in the Finder sidebar I don't see why they would for the Dashboard.
I like the whole Dashboard concept, though I'm leaning towards fake for this leak.
broken_keyboard said:
Not only could you replicate that with Adobe products, but you could knock it out using Dev tools to make a mock-up of any OSx-like interface elements. If I am proved wrong on this I will eat my hat. Sadly, I don't own a hat. Maybe that is Destiny having a laugh?
Finiksa said:
A cross within a circle though - so it looks like a button at least.
Though Apple have started to go the Windows way with buttons that don't look like buttons (the lock icon in the system preferences for example). I am hopeful they haven't continued that trend with Tiger...
arn said:
Does the PDF producer for a 10.3 document show up as 10.3?
If that document was made at Apple, which it definitely does look like it has been, then it could very well have leaked. Did they get theirs hands on it and then decide to do a fake?
At the same time, I have not seen this document previously and I cannot see what the use would be. The information is generally posted as HTML on the Apple developer website for seeds, but seeds have not started yet...
the silver fox said:Not only could you replicate that with Adobe products, but you could knock it out using Dev tools to make a mock-up of any OSx-like interface elements. If I am proved wrong on this I will eat my hat. Sadly, I don't own a hat. Maybe that is Destiny having a laugh?
You're right that it is possible to make convincing but fake GUI screenshots and, as your example demonstrates, in no time at all. But that mere possibility doesn't tell us anything about whether any particular instance is a fake or not.
I think Arn is right to check the metadata fields in the file, and then there is the supposed reputation of the source (though I have never heard of them until today, sound like a bunch of unpleasant racists). And whether the style matches Apple etc...
I actually believe they are real mainly because the firewall screenshot looks so Apple-like. But I am hoping if the dashboard is real they will put a little more work in before releasing it, because it looks amatuerish. Actually, on second thoughts I don't care, because I am just going to turn it off anyway.
I think we have to look at these objectively - apple has a habit of surprising us, so theses may well be real. Maybe, maybe not - we'll see on Monday.
In the meantime, fake or otherwise, some comments:
1) New quicktime logo in System Preferences
2) The title bar of the system preferences now includes the toolbar buttons/search?
3) Typographical errors are common in betas - all the previous developer previews of OSX have had spelling mistakes.
4) Maybe theres a distinction between apps and gadgets - eg. a graphically intensive calculator gadget, and normal osx-style app.
5) Some elements look very carbon-ish. For instance in pipeline the categories header.
In the meantime, fake or otherwise, some comments:
1) New quicktime logo in System Preferences
2) The title bar of the system preferences now includes the toolbar buttons/search?
3) Typographical errors are common in betas - all the previous developer previews of OSX have had spelling mistakes.
4) Maybe theres a distinction between apps and gadgets - eg. a graphically intensive calculator gadget, and normal osx-style app.
5) Some elements look very carbon-ish. For instance in pipeline the categories header.
According to the Acrobat 6 Pro, the pdfs metadata reads as:
Created: 11/6/2004
Application: TextEdit
PDF Producer: Mac OS X 10.3.4 Quartz PDFContext
Of course, this could mean, that the file was sent to arn as a TextEdit file, and then he saved it as a PDF for online.
I realise that this data is easy to fake - but they make have overlooked it, which was why I checked.
Created: 11/6/2004
Application: TextEdit
PDF Producer: Mac OS X 10.3.4 Quartz PDFContext
Of course, this could mean, that the file was sent to arn as a TextEdit file, and then he saved it as a PDF for online.
I realise that this data is easy to fake - but they make have overlooked it, which was why I checked.
sandsl said:
Indeed.
The history of the GNAA speaks for itself. They mock various sections of society, websites with user groups such as Slashdot and now they are being given too much "airtime" here. We shouldn't be giving them the satisfaction. My last post.
coolfactor said:
Its like the whole sherlock/Watson fiasco. I personally prefer when Apple comes up with their own ideas..
If they're real, I'm sad. For one, the even the about box has the same panther-looking X as 10.3. For two, they're ugly. Would steve let that go? No, they're fake.