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No known issues my ass. They've got my bug report on the last build.

I don't think you understand what they mean by "no known issues." Known issues are generally things that prevent you from testing or causing large-scale data loss. It doesn't mean "no known bugs in the software at all." I don't think there is any commercial software that is bug-free.
 
Not So Fast...

I guess its safe to say that this update isnt coming out today:(

When Apple releases something like this, it is typically after 5pm EST. At the time of this post, we still have a few minutes and possible another 1-2 hour window before we can say for sure it will not be until next week at the earliest.
 
I don't think you understand what they mean by "no known issues." Known issues are generally things that prevent you from testing or causing large-scale data loss. It doesn't mean "no known bugs in the software at all." I don't think there is any commercial software that is bug-free.

Solitaire on Windows is a pretty solid app.

It has to be. The success of many an office worker depends on the stability of that one app. It's most likely the most used application in a business environment.
:)
 
Remote Disc represents the 1st step towards an optical-less future - bridging our dependence & freedom from optical drives and supported media.

Windows has been able to read remote DVD and CD drives since before there were CD and DVD drives (an exaggeration of course, but it's been there so long that I can't remember when it wasn't possible).

"Remote Disc" is just a hack done so that the external drive was a requirement for the MacBook Air.

Windows systems (and Linux/Solaris/...) can do a full network install from a network boot if needed - the boot loader is streamed from a server, then the OS files are loaded and installed.

That's much closer to an "optical-less future" than a hack to let the BIOS/EFI mount a remote DVD.
 
I have a 24" iMac that is wireless and networking obviously works alright with it for network. It also does wireless Time Machine backup to an Xserve's firewire disk store, prints wireless, etc

I haven't had any of the wireless problems posted here, yet I have had other minor interface and UI problems with Leopard.

I would imagine, that it just appears to be a larger issue than it is. The whole loud minority thing comes to mind.

No... There are wireless problems with Leopard alright. I work at a Windows centric company. Wireless on my MacBook Pro works flawlessly when booted into the Vista Boot Camp partition. It hasn't worked in Mac OS since I "upgraded" to Leopard. I've spent hours tweaking it.

Even though the company is geared toward Vista there is a relatively large Mac contingent. The discussion around wireless networking problems under Leopard exposes a big dark underbelly with support for certificates in Mac OS X 10.5.0 & 10.5.1 specifically and standard network security support in general. Apple's wireless support is OK for home and consumer use. It's far from industrial strength though.
 
Surprised

I'm surprised that all previous Mac owners are not getting charged $20.00 to upgrade...whoops, my bad, thats the iPod. :D Guess it will only cost $10.52
 
Windows has been able to read remote DVD and CD drives since before there were CD and DVD drives (an exaggeration of course, but it's been there so long that I can't remember when it wasn't possible).

"Remote Disc" is just a hack done so that the external drive was a requirement for the MacBook Air.

Windows systems (and Linux/Solaris/...) can do a full network install from a network boot if needed - the boot loader is streamed from a server, then the OS files are loaded and installed.

That's much closer to an "optical-less future" than a hack to let the BIOS/EFI mount a remote DVD.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone has ever been able to play a CSS-encrypted DVD over the network before. Also, this is the first time anyone has ever been able to boot from a DVD over a WIRELESS network. Apple rarely invents new technologies. But they are damn good at making synergy from existing technologies.
 
Agreed.
When Apple dropped the floppy, there was a big "WTF?!?" in the community.
The same thing is happening here with the Air. Dropping the optical drive, in my mind, simply indicates we are a lot closer to our "copies" of apps, OSes, etc. sitting on some server somewhere and not on a physical disc on our book shelves.

Remote Disc represents the 1st step towards an optical-less future - bridging our dependence & freedom from optical drives and supported media. We're still a few years from that concept as mainstream, but it would seem inevitable, from what very little I know about such things. Maybe?

A similar thing is happening to physical cables - they're phasing out.
Much like when those 1st iMacs shipped, with their dramatically reduced cable clutter, we're seeing the evolution of this with the Air - 1 cable. For power. I can't imagine we're not far from batteries recharging wirelessly (bluetooth, WiFi, ?) if not the entire device running of some over-the-air power supply.

The technology for over the air power is has already been around for some years now. We are a lot closer for this tech to be introduced on cell phones right now than you may know. It will, however, probably be more of a type of pad you lay your phone on or near that induces a sort of uniform electron state in your personal device to charge the electrons. I'm too lazy to look up the specifics of the the technology but it is something along these lines.

Battery operated toothbrushes have been using an almost likewise technology, I think.
 
No... There are wireless problems with Leopard alright. I work at a Windows centric company. Wireless on my MacBook Pro works flawlessly when booted into the Vista Boot Camp partition. It hasn't worked in Mac OS since I "upgraded" to Leopard. I've spent hours tweaking it.

Even though the company is geared toward Vista there is a relatively large Mac contingent. The discussion around wireless networking problems under Leopard exposes a big dark underbelly with support for certificates in Mac OS X 10.5.0 & 10.5.1 specifically and standard network security support in general. Apple's wireless support is OK for home and consumer use. It's far from industrial strength though.

Oh cut the crap please. There are plenty of x-files with wireless on winblows.
 
I don't think it's coming today. :( I thought for sure that it would and I was oddly looking forward to it. I'm one of those people that are OCD about updates and get excited for them. Maybe next week?
 
The technology for over the air power is has already been around for some years now. We are a lot closer for this tech to be introduced on cell phones right now than you may know. It will, however, probably be more of a type of pad you lay your phone on or near that induces a sort of uniform electron state in your personal device to charge the electrons. I'm too lazy to look up the specifics of the the technology but it is something along these lines.

Battery operated toothbrushes have been using an almost likewise technology, I think.

It's called "induction" and has been known and understood since the early 1800's. Implant power supplies are charged this way (spinal cord stimulators, drug pumps, pace makers, cochlea implants).
 
Are you sure? it's nearly midnight now!

No, but it seems logical that they should want to get the Air into the channel and onto the store floors.

When people actually see this laptop, there are going to be a lot more people seduced.

They can release it late today Cupertino time. It is almost 1pm in California at the moment. There is still time.
 
Nokia Support

I would really be happy if iSync supports the Nokia 6300.

The current plug-in works, but does not sync the calendars properly.
 
Nice!

Oh cut the crap please. There are plenty of x-files with wireless on winblows.

Yeah you're right. We should just pretend there are no problems at all. You've helped me to see the light. Sure Apple will be under no pressure to provide fixes but sensitive customers like you and me can move forward in confidence that all is perfect in the world. Gee wiz, I feel better already!

Do you have any other sage advice to impart? I've got some bit of money to invest. Any financial advice? Anything at all?
 
Yeah you're right. We should just pretend there are no problems at all. You've helped me to see the light. Sure Apple will be under no pressure to provide fixes but sensitive customers like you and me can move forward in confidence that all is perfect in the world. Gee wiz, I feel better already!

Do you have any other sage advice to impart? I've got some bit of money to invest. Any financial advice? Anything at all?

As a matter of fact i do: get started using your head and complain no more. I have to Macs at home, work a lot on Macs at work we have very big wireles and cable network, moved to Leopard the day it came out and to this we have none known problems neither with wireless or anything else.
 
Oh cut the crap please. There are plenty of x-files with wireless on winblows.

That may be the case, but for me (and others) some access points constantly disconnect when in Mac OS X, but work fine in Boot Camp on the same computer.

Conclusion: Mac OS X Leopard has some wireless issues.

Here at home, it's great. But if I use my friend's router (which happens to be one of the most popular in the UK) I pretty much just skip OS X, because it will go in an endless loop of disconnecting even with full signal.
 
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