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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Delayed until October?

081440 said:
No Way!!! ......well I certainly hope not :eek:

I would see that kind of support coming in the form of a software update instead of delaying the whole OS for so long.
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Yes, that was my first thought when I read the story.

It seems like Vista, in all its tardiness, has the power to even make other OSs deliver late.
 
I don't ever remember Apple not meeting a deadline (Spring 2007). I don't think that this is true. They would have removed that from the website quietly if this was true.
 
mikes63737 said:
I don't ever remember Apple not meeting a deadline (Spring 2007). I don't think that this is true. They would have removed that from the website quietly if this was true.
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Maybe no one has broken the news to Steve. I rather keep my job till June, then spill the beans now and feel his wrath.
 
Leopard

macjackpro said:
Compatibility with Vista? Vista isn't even compatible with Vista.
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Right on! Vista compatibility can always be updated in later revisions. Besides, XP will be the most widely used version of Windows for quite some time. Waiting for Vista compatibility does not seem to be a valid reason for such a significant delay.
 
mikes63737 said:
I don't ever remember Apple not meeting a deadline.
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Apple is pretty good at meetings its own deadlines and with the Intel transition proved it could exceed expectation, but it is also not infallible.

  • PPC G5 3Ghz - Ok that was mainly down to IBM letting them down, but Apple publicly committed to it and did not deliver.
  • Mac OS X: It took them years longer than they had planned to come up with a successor to OS9.
  • Apple TV: Ok this was only a few weeks late, but late nonetheless.
  • Jaguar: I'm not certain but I'm reasonably sure that 10.2 was also delayed a few months. If I recall correctly it was originally slated for April 2002 but did not appear until the summer (August).
 
macinfojunkie said:
Apple is pretty good at meetings its own deadlines and with the Intel transition proved it could exceed expectation, but it is also not infallible.

  • PPC G5 3Ghz - Ok that was mainly down to IBM letting them down, but Apple publicly committed to it and did not deliver.
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Actually, apple wasn't supposed to say that. We weren't anywhere near that target at the time, and that was CLEARLY communicated to apple.
 
macinfojunkie said:
Whilst it might be bug free at the initial release - at least as far as any previous .0 OS release from Apple has been in the past - what you are saying does not hold well for 3rd party applications or their ability to provide rapid fixes for the issue..... Unless the additional features and enhancements are so trivial that they do not change anything substantial under the hood.
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If the API doesn't change, or the new features are optional things that are not necessary for a Leopard-compatible application, then I don't see why it should necessarily cause big problems for 3rd parties. Sure, testing is important, but maybe Apple is conducting testing with certain major developers like Adobe. Developers can release their Leopard apps, and then take advantage of the "secret" features in the next version, while Apple's apps and some major developers already use the "secret" features at launch. Just a thought. The "secret" features may just be new bundled apps, along the lines of Disk Utility, Photobooth, Chess, etc...

My other theory on an "integrated" Bootcamp is that they'll add it's features to Disk Utility or something, like Disk Utility will be able to do non-destructive partitioning.
 
I could understand Apple taking its time to make sure it releases a good, stable version of Mac OS X w/o any (major) bugs. But delaying 2+ months just to make compatibility things w/ Vista? What does that mean? Is it really that hard to make drivers, or is there something else?

Also, I'd like to see them add the "secret features" in the developer previews just so they can test them for bugs.
 
macinfojunkie said:
Mac OS X: It took them years longer than they had planned to come up with a successor to OS9.
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Yeah, but I think that once they made the decision to go with Next, they moved pretty fast. I think most of the delays were during the pre-second coming of Jobs days, if I remember my Apple history correctly.
 
Rocketman said:
Boot Camp is a standalone program.
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It is in Tiger, but it's supposed to be integrated into Leopard.

At first this rumor seemed like total lunacy. Then it occurred to me that by the time Leopard is released (if not already), retail copies of XP will be difficult if not impossible to locate. So sure, you can load XP on a Mac and run it with Leopard. But just try to find a copy of XP.

So Apple may well have a dilemma on its hands with Boot Camp until Vista is fully supported, but I doubt very much that they'd delay the release of Leopard over it -- especially given their promise to deliver it during the Spring.
 
Bingo

4np said:
Bollocks.... Apple will never delay it's own OS just to support another OS in bootcamp. If it really is an issue they will just release Leopard and release a software update later.
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This makes the most sense. If there really were some issues, Apple would likely just offer the updates in a later version of Boot Camp or Leopard.
 
aranhamo said:
Yeah, but I think that once they made the decision to go with Next, they moved pretty fast. I think most of the delays were during the pre-second coming of Jobs days, if I remember my Apple history correctly.
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Yeah, it only took them another 4+ years to get the first version of Mac OS X out the door! Mac OS X, even after the NeXT acquisition, still took awhile to get everything in place.

I'm guessing that they finally got to a point where they needed to release at least something, rather than wait yet another half year. Hence, Mac OS 10.0. I played with the original Mac OS X a few days ago, and it is very apparent how many things were still missing in the OS, but they have made some great strides since then. I believe that the continual updates is the way to go, by making small improvements and fixes, rather than trying to do it all in one shot.
 
nagromme said:
Knowing how rumors get mis-repeated, maybe the truth is that this is one of the secret Leopard features, and that this FEATURE will be delayed until the fall. Not the whole OS.
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This is sort of what I was thinking when I read the article. However, if it's one of their more *amazing* secrets then it may cause a delay in the whole OS, to make sure that everyone goes 'wow' when Leopard is finally revealed... just a thought.

BTW, considering that some of Apple's products are announced the day they are released, isn't it kinda hard to know if they ususally hit their targets? :confused:
 
So I guess now we are looking at calling the next version of iLife "iLife '08?" It would seem kind of strange to release leopard and ilife so late in the year. I think if its going to be that long before leopard is released, then we would have seen iLife 07 back in january. There is too much to me that doesn't make any sense as to why they would release it in october. Wait because of microsoft??? Since when does apple wait for microsoft???? Its usually the reverse so they can copy apple.
 
I heard there is currently no iLife 07 in progress due to so many other Apple projects and that the current iLife is more then sufficient for the customers needs.
 
dartzorichalcos said:
Then there goes my making movies and burning them to a Blue-ray disc time.
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where do you get the news that there will be no BRD support? Given that the drives are already available for Macs and that Toast supports burning to BRD, surely support from apple is a logical next step in their next releases. Whenever those might be ;-)
 
macinfojunkie said:
where do you get the news that there will be no BRD support? Given that the drives are already available for Macs and that Toast supports burning to BRD, surely support from apple is a logical next step in their next releases. Whenever those might be ;-)
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Tiger doesn't support Blue-ray, but hopefully Leopard will.
 
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