bketchum
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Yes, that was my first thought when I read the story.
It seems like Vista, in all its tardiness, has the power to even make other OSs deliver late.
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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Delayed until October?
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It seems like Vista, in all its tardiness, has the power to even make other OSs deliver late.
macinfojunkie
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I don't ever remember Apple not meeting a deadline (Spring 2007). I don't think that this is true. They would have removed that from the website quietly if this was true.
Maybe no one has broken the news to Steve. I rather keep my job till June, then spill the beans now and feel his wrath.
DMann
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Leopard
Right on! Vista compatibility can always be updated in later revisions. Besides, XP will be the most widely used version of Windows for quite some time. Waiting for Vista compatibility does not seem to be a valid reason for such a significant delay.
Right on! Vista compatibility can always be updated in later revisions. Besides, XP will be the most widely used version of Windows for quite some time. Waiting for Vista compatibility does not seem to be a valid reason for such a significant delay.
macinfojunkie
macrumors 6502
Apple is pretty good at meetings its own deadlines and with the Intel transition proved it could exceed expectation, but it is also not infallible.
- PPC G5 3Ghz - Ok that was mainly down to IBM letting them down, but Apple publicly committed to it and did not deliver.
- Mac OS X: It took them years longer than they had planned to come up with a successor to OS9.
- Apple TV: Ok this was only a few weeks late, but late nonetheless.
- Jaguar: I'm not certain but I'm reasonably sure that 10.2 was also delayed a few months. If I recall correctly it was originally slated for April 2002 but did not appear until the summer (August).
johnee
macrumors 6502a
Actually, apple wasn't supposed to say that. We weren't anywhere near that target at the time, and that was CLEARLY communicated to apple.
If the API doesn't change, or the new features are optional things that are not necessary for a Leopard-compatible application, then I don't see why it should necessarily cause big problems for 3rd parties. Sure, testing is important, but maybe Apple is conducting testing with certain major developers like Adobe. Developers can release their Leopard apps, and then take advantage of the "secret" features in the next version, while Apple's apps and some major developers already use the "secret" features at launch. Just a thought. The "secret" features may just be new bundled apps, along the lines of Disk Utility, Photobooth, Chess, etc...
My other theory on an "integrated" Bootcamp is that they'll add it's features to Disk Utility or something, like Disk Utility will be able to do non-destructive partitioning.
guzhogi
macrumors 68040
I could understand Apple taking its time to make sure it releases a good, stable version of Mac OS X w/o any (major) bugs. But delaying 2+ months just to make compatibility things w/ Vista? What does that mean? Is it really that hard to make drivers, or is there something else?
Also, I'd like to see them add the "secret features" in the developer previews just so they can test them for bugs.
Also, I'd like to see them add the "secret features" in the developer previews just so they can test them for bugs.
Yeah, but I think that once they made the decision to go with Next, they moved pretty fast. I think most of the delays were during the pre-second coming of Jobs days, if I remember my Apple history correctly.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
It is in Tiger, but it's supposed to be integrated into Leopard.
At first this rumor seemed like total lunacy. Then it occurred to me that by the time Leopard is released (if not already), retail copies of XP will be difficult if not impossible to locate. So sure, you can load XP on a Mac and run it with Leopard. But just try to find a copy of XP.
So Apple may well have a dilemma on its hands with Boot Camp until Vista is fully supported, but I doubt very much that they'd delay the release of Leopard over it -- especially given their promise to deliver it during the Spring.
IJ Reilly
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Flynnstone
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edenwaith
macrumors 6502a
Yeah, it only took them another 4+ years to get the first version of Mac OS X out the door! Mac OS X, even after the NeXT acquisition, still took awhile to get everything in place.
I'm guessing that they finally got to a point where they needed to release at least something, rather than wait yet another half year. Hence, Mac OS 10.0. I played with the original Mac OS X a few days ago, and it is very apparent how many things were still missing in the OS, but they have made some great strides since then. I believe that the continual updates is the way to go, by making small improvements and fixes, rather than trying to do it all in one shot.
macinfojunkie
macrumors 6502
This is sort of what I was thinking when I read the article. However, if it's one of their more *amazing* secrets then it may cause a delay in the whole OS, to make sure that everyone goes 'wow' when Leopard is finally revealed... just a thought.
BTW, considering that some of Apple's products are announced the day they are released, isn't it kinda hard to know if they ususally hit their targets? 😕
So I guess now we are looking at calling the next version of iLife "iLife '08?" It would seem kind of strange to release leopard and ilife so late in the year. I think if its going to be that long before leopard is released, then we would have seen iLife 07 back in january. There is too much to me that doesn't make any sense as to why they would release it in october. Wait because of microsoft??? Since when does apple wait for microsoft???? Its usually the reverse so they can copy apple.
dartzorichalcos
macrumors 65816
No Blue-ray for a long time to come then
Then there goes my making movies and burning them to a Blue-ray disc time.
Then there goes my making movies and burning them to a Blue-ray disc time.
I heard there is currently no iLife 07 in progress due to so many other Apple projects and that the current iLife is more then sufficient for the customers needs.
macinfojunkie
macrumors 6502
where do you get the news that there will be no BRD support? Given that the drives are already available for Macs and that Toast supports burning to BRD, surely support from apple is a logical next step in their next releases. Whenever those might be ;-)
dartzorichalcos
macrumors 65816
