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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard 'Finalized'?
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As long as the OS doesn't have any major problems, it doesn't matter that much if there are smaller issues on the disk. People seem to keep forgetting that apple can have a downloadable software update the day the disks ship if they want.
Personally I'd rather get the OS sooner than have them try and wait for it to be "perfect".
I Like To Get It Early From FedEx, Install On Mobile Mac, Then Go To Palo Alto Party
See you in Palo Alto - downtown.
It begins as soon as they do the shipping date announcement. And it's true you will get it before the stores open if you pre-order it from Apple. FedEx builds up a queue of boxes for delivery either the day before or the first day store sales begin. It's' fun to get it before the store 'cause you can then go to the store with it on your mobile Mac and wait in line with others who also already have it on theirs and learn tips from others in line. Why get in line if you already have it? 'Cause it's a party.
See you in Palo Alto - downtown.
I agree with just about everything you said except for the whole odd number thing as number 7 is my number.
As for the IM, I agree. I don't know anyone with AOL either. I use AdiumX and all 35/40 contacts are either on Yahoo or GoogleTalk. So like you, there's no reason to use iChat.
It sure would be nice if Apple announced a Gold Master and a release date. This is one of the most exciting updates for me since System 7.
It begins as soon as they do the shipping date announcement. And it's true you will get it before the stores open if you pre-order it from Apple. FedEx builds up a queue of boxes for delivery either the day before or the first day store sales begin. It's' fun to get it before the store 'cause you can then go to the store with it on your mobile Mac and wait in line with others who also already have it on theirs and learn tips from others in line. Why get in line if you already have it? 'Cause it's a party.
See you in Palo Alto - downtown.
Haha, sounds like a good plan to me.
You can also use a trial .Mac account and keep the name (for free) after the trial.
I use Mercury, the video is as good as it's going to get on that network unfortunately.
No, actually, I don't. In the event that wireless didn't work out of the box and was fixed in a patch, with a laptop I could take downstairs to our router in the basement & hook it up with an Ethernet cable in order to perform the update. I can't do the same with the desktops on the first & second floor.Surely you mean the other way around?
iChat is great but....
You know what would work for me to, if Apple would release a iChat version for windows just like they did with itunes, i meen did you ever try AIM for windows, it's horrible and really ugly to on windows. Maybe if people running other maschienes than mac's would be able to use iChat , then it would become a whole new ball game, and Apple won't be paying anybody any fees for it.
But since they are not going to make any money of it either i'm sure that is never going to happen.
Still , i have to say ( i'm in Europe to ) iChat is great but aslong as it's Mac only it's pretty useless ,unless your friends only excists of mac users or if your based in the US or an other country were AIM is the big network.
Every time this discussion comes up it's the samething, people who life in an area were using AIM/iChat is common , say , hey don't blame apple or iChat for this, in the end it is much better than all the other IM software out there, on the one hand.
And on the otherside , people like me , who don't life in such a country/area, say, iChat is great and nice, but it is useless because nobody in my country uses it, except for the odd one out that has a mac, but even they have always got to use aMSN or something like that, to connect to "the rest of us" msn messenger users, to be able to do audio /video chat's ( forget about Jabber, thats only text ).
In the end i'm afraid that will never chance or atleast not for a long time,and the next best thing for me now is VMware/Paralles and xp on my intel based mac, that solves the problem for me at the moment.
Now , let that leopard free ;-).
You know what would work for me to, if Apple would release a iChat version for windows just like they did with itunes, i meen did you ever try AIM for windows, it's horrible and really ugly to on windows. Maybe if people running other maschienes than mac's would be able to use iChat , then it would become a whole new ball game, and Apple won't be paying anybody any fees for it.
But since they are not going to make any money of it either i'm sure that is never going to happen.
Still , i have to say ( i'm in Europe to ) iChat is great but aslong as it's Mac only it's pretty useless ,unless your friends only excists of mac users or if your based in the US or an other country were AIM is the big network.
Every time this discussion comes up it's the samething, people who life in an area were using AIM/iChat is common , say , hey don't blame apple or iChat for this, in the end it is much better than all the other IM software out there, on the one hand.
And on the otherside , people like me , who don't life in such a country/area, say, iChat is great and nice, but it is useless because nobody in my country uses it, except for the odd one out that has a mac, but even they have always got to use aMSN or something like that, to connect to "the rest of us" msn messenger users, to be able to do audio /video chat's ( forget about Jabber, thats only text ).
In the end i'm afraid that will never chance or atleast not for a long time,and the next best thing for me now is VMware/Paralles and xp on my intel based mac, that solves the problem for me at the moment.
Now , let that leopard free ;-).
iChat Is Not Mac Only - Cross Platform With Windows AIM
iChat is not Mac only. It's cross platform with AIM for Windows.
I think the point he was trying to make were the elegant interface and multi-user audio and video chat's are iChat only.
However I don't know this firsthand as I've never been on the windows side of the connection, but I heard that it wasn't as nice an experience as on the mac.
Regardless, I don't see Apple releasing iChat for windows, that would eliminate a whole point of switching.
read a little tidbit on a UFO conspiracy site no less-
That Leopard will run on Intel and AMD CPUs-in other words, 10.5 for PCs
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The news will be announced officially the next week!
From a source within the company :
The next version of the Mac OS Operating System 10.5, codenamed "Leopard" is set for release this month, October 26, 2007.
A transition has been made in the setup process and this is :
The installer wont check for Apple Hardware at install time-all you need to run "Leopard" will be ANY INTEL, AMD or PPC cpu that has 866 MhZ and the SSE2 instructionsets alongside with 512 MB Ram, supported mainboards include Via, Intel, Asus, Dell, and others .
Users will need a Nvidia Geforce 5200 or higher classed gpu, similar to the requirements of Windows Vista, to be able to use "QuartzExtreme","CoreImage" and "CoreAnimation" - a technique that turns the Users Desktop into a fully 3D accelerated place of fun.
With this decision, Apple, who are no longer calling themselves "Apple Computer" want to broaden the distribution of the Mac OS and grow marketshare.
And make a ton of money while theyre at it.
The time seems the right time, as more and more users are dissapointed with the last release of Microsofts OS, "Vista".
The transition took slowly place, as Apple began to switch from the Motorola PowerPC G4 and G5 CPUs over to Intel Pentium, since that day "Macs" are in hardware-terms are more or less standard PCs, just built into Apples designed housings.
The next "Macs" wont have the "TPM" ( trusted platform module ) soldered to their mainboards, the only way for the installer to check for "genuine Apple Hardware", as well as this check is being removed from the Mac OS X itself.
Mac OS is a Operating System, based on FreeBSD - a Unix derivate - but comes with the Mac Interface, which makes the OS so simple to operate with. The various special effects of this interface require the CPU to have SSE2 support as well as a supported graphics-card.
With Apple releasing iTunes/Quicktime and their own browser "Safari" for Windows they were evaluating how the OS itself would perform on common hardware, and now the decision has been made :
The Mac OS is finally free to run on any recent model computer.
Expected release date of "Leopard" is October 26th.
A date that Microsoft must be very concerned about.
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Could this be an "...and another thing..." that Steve forgot to tell us about at the MW conference?
That Leopard will run on Intel and AMD CPUs-in other words, 10.5 for PCs
-----
The news will be announced officially the next week!
From a source within the company :
The next version of the Mac OS Operating System 10.5, codenamed "Leopard" is set for release this month, October 26, 2007.
A transition has been made in the setup process and this is :
The installer wont check for Apple Hardware at install time-all you need to run "Leopard" will be ANY INTEL, AMD or PPC cpu that has 866 MhZ and the SSE2 instructionsets alongside with 512 MB Ram, supported mainboards include Via, Intel, Asus, Dell, and others .
Users will need a Nvidia Geforce 5200 or higher classed gpu, similar to the requirements of Windows Vista, to be able to use "QuartzExtreme","CoreImage" and "CoreAnimation" - a technique that turns the Users Desktop into a fully 3D accelerated place of fun.
With this decision, Apple, who are no longer calling themselves "Apple Computer" want to broaden the distribution of the Mac OS and grow marketshare.
And make a ton of money while theyre at it.
The time seems the right time, as more and more users are dissapointed with the last release of Microsofts OS, "Vista".
The transition took slowly place, as Apple began to switch from the Motorola PowerPC G4 and G5 CPUs over to Intel Pentium, since that day "Macs" are in hardware-terms are more or less standard PCs, just built into Apples designed housings.
The next "Macs" wont have the "TPM" ( trusted platform module ) soldered to their mainboards, the only way for the installer to check for "genuine Apple Hardware", as well as this check is being removed from the Mac OS X itself.
Mac OS is a Operating System, based on FreeBSD - a Unix derivate - but comes with the Mac Interface, which makes the OS so simple to operate with. The various special effects of this interface require the CPU to have SSE2 support as well as a supported graphics-card.
With Apple releasing iTunes/Quicktime and their own browser "Safari" for Windows they were evaluating how the OS itself would perform on common hardware, and now the decision has been made :
The Mac OS is finally free to run on any recent model computer.
Expected release date of "Leopard" is October 26th.
A date that Microsoft must be very concerned about.
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Could this be an "...and another thing..." that Steve forgot to tell us about at the MW conference?
That Must Be The TOP SECRET Steve Was Referring To Last Year
OK my mind is officially blown. But I will still continue to only buy Apple Hardware.
I think you need to add the link to your source site above please. That is not something you should post without a link to your source. This is not funny.
OK my mind is officially blown. But I will still continue to only buy Apple Hardware.
I think you need to add the link to your source site above please. That is not something you should post without a link to your source. This is not funny.
Without a link to the source, the idea that Leopard will run on almost any computer (Mac or not) is quite far-fetched. Though, I have to say, the genius that thought that one up had better get a call from Apple soon. That's actually a terribly good idea, and if it worked... Wow.
The UFO thing is absolutely stupid and uninformed as is the writer.
OSX Leopard uses EFI..You can't just install it on a dell or a gateway or a home made system since those systems probably use a BIOS chip.
I'm all for UFO's and conspiracies as long as there's some proof and is logical.
OSX Leopard uses EFI..You can't just install it on a dell or a gateway or a home made system since those systems probably use a BIOS chip.
I'm all for UFO's and conspiracies as long as there's some proof and is logical.
Seems Very Far Fetched Due To Many Software Driver Challenges
The trouble is in the details. Apple is in no position to write all the drivers necessary for OS X to behave properly on the millions of different hardware combinations that are out there in PC land.Without a link to the source, the idea that Leopard will run on almost any computer (Mac or not) is quite far-fetched. Though, I have to say, the genius that thought that one up had better get a call from Apple soon. That's actually a terribly good idea, and if it worked... Wow.
And there you have it, folks.The UFO thing is absolutely stupid and uninformed as is the writer.
OSX Leopard uses EFI..You can't just install it on a dell or a gateway or a home made system since those systems probably use a BIOS chip.
I'm all for UFO's and conspiracies as long as there's some proof and is logical.
While this is dubious at best and highly improbable, impractical, and not worthy of consideration without any kind of link, such a thing would be a game changer. And not necessarily in Apple's favour.
If anything, Apple would have to reduce some of their hardware prices, or offer a range of less expensive sub-Pro towers or headless iMacs, to keep people like me from migrating to an AMD machine running Leopard.
I would have a very difficult time deciding whether it's the hardware I like, or just the software; right now, it's both, but when wallet-opening time comes, I might sacrifice the Apple hardware if I have the option to use the Apple software and still be able to cover rent.
Realistically, i'd love to see Apple offer an AMD option, but it ain't gonna happen before my birthday, that's for sure.
MMM another thought
Does Intel have the pull to tell everyone who uses their chips that you have to ship your systems with Leopard, or we don't deal ??? I mean the thought of all Dell computers shipping with 10.5 makes stagers the mind...
Imagine a great os like tiger (leopard??) running on those blankity blank black boxes...
just might be a sign of the end of days...
Does Intel have the pull to tell everyone who uses their chips that you have to ship your systems with Leopard, or we don't deal ??? I mean the thought of all Dell computers shipping with 10.5 makes stagers the mind...
Imagine a great os like tiger (leopard??) running on those blankity blank black boxes...
just might be a sign of the end of days...
No but you can download the patch with your laptop and connect it to your computers upstairs and transfer the file!
OK , i should have been more clear about this, i mean the program iChat, i tried aim on a pc and it is the worst piece of IM software i have ever seen, thats what i ment, i mean the MSN network is also available for mac, but not the Messenger program from MS, that is not available ( in it's full A/V version ) for the mac.
No, but its not Apple, and I don't think they're going to support it, at least in the foreseeable future...