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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard First Impressions
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Because that's working out so well for Windows right now?
Oops, changed a driver! Windows deactivated!
Yeah, right...
I don't think paid Leopard pirates are going to hell. I think God would reward them for their ambition.
On the topic of the OS, I'm looking forward to a snappier Safari.
On the topic of the OS, I'm looking forward to a snappier Safari.
finally, some sense!
The whole activation/pirating issue is completely different for Apple's OS's because of the different business model the company has.
I do not support piracy in any form. I will be buying a new machine with Leopard and probably a box as well, but ... on a certain level, Apple doesn't really care about people pirating Leopard as it really can't do them much harm.
Leopard only works on Apple hardware and will be shipped free with each device they sell from now on. The only possible way to "pirate" it, is to install it on an older Apple Machine without paying for it. Therefore, pretty much zero people will be using it, that haven't already bought an Apple computer at some time in the past. Importantly, those people have already paid for Tiger when they bought that machine.
This means that the absolute worst that can happen and the most serious down-side for Apple is that a small percentage of users will install it on their "old" machines for free. This topic is really about some existing Apple users getting a possibly free upgrade, and not a booming market of "pirated software" per se.
If you put Leopard on an old machine for free, there are only two outcomes. It either runs fine, or the computer is too old an not supported.
If it runs fine, then Apple has continued to please and therefore kept that customer. The next time that customer buys a computer they will re-buy with Apple. If it doesn't run so well because they installed it on an old G4 or something, then the person has to go out and buy a new Apple computer to enjoy it.
So even if Leopard was available on every torrent site or handed out at Malls for free, all it means is that some users of Tiger will upgrade for free temporarily, thus putting off purchasing a new computer (and thus purchasing Leopard) for a year or so. They will purchase Leopard eventually though unless they decide Macs are not for them after all, which is a decision that has nothing to do with whether or not they paid for it.
If not for the fact that there is some good profit in it, and for the fact that too many people would hack their Windows boxes to use it, Apple could almost hand out OS-X for free.
Exactly.
The whole activation/pirating issue is completely different for Apple's OS's because of the different business model the company has.
I do not support piracy in any form. I will be buying a new machine with Leopard and probably a box as well, but ... on a certain level, Apple doesn't really care about people pirating Leopard as it really can't do them much harm.
Leopard only works on Apple hardware and will be shipped free with each device they sell from now on. The only possible way to "pirate" it, is to install it on an older Apple Machine without paying for it. Therefore, pretty much zero people will be using it, that haven't already bought an Apple computer at some time in the past. Importantly, those people have already paid for Tiger when they bought that machine.
This means that the absolute worst that can happen and the most serious down-side for Apple is that a small percentage of users will install it on their "old" machines for free. This topic is really about some existing Apple users getting a possibly free upgrade, and not a booming market of "pirated software" per se.
If you put Leopard on an old machine for free, there are only two outcomes. It either runs fine, or the computer is too old an not supported.
If it runs fine, then Apple has continued to please and therefore kept that customer. The next time that customer buys a computer they will re-buy with Apple. If it doesn't run so well because they installed it on an old G4 or something, then the person has to go out and buy a new Apple computer to enjoy it.
So even if Leopard was available on every torrent site or handed out at Malls for free, all it means is that some users of Tiger will upgrade for free temporarily, thus putting off purchasing a new computer (and thus purchasing Leopard) for a year or so. They will purchase Leopard eventually though unless they decide Macs are not for them after all, which is a decision that has nothing to do with whether or not they paid for it.
If not for the fact that there is some good profit in it, and for the fact that too many people would hack their Windows boxes to use it, Apple could almost hand out OS-X for free.
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Give me a freaking break dude. If you want to be respectable in the Mac community you buy your Mac software. Period. If you believe in the OS you will buy it and support its future development. You can't make the same arguments pirates make about Windows - "Oh, it sucks anyway, they should be paying me to use it".
If you can't handle that, maybe you should run Linux on your Mac. Builds are available for PPC and Intel and we won't have to listen to your crap ever again, so bonus for everyone. Or if you've got an Intel why don't you just wipe the drive and slap a pirated Windows on it? Then you can even play with your elite warez!
Give me a freaking break dude. If you want to be respectable in the Mac community you buy your Mac software. Period. If you believe in the OS you will buy it and support its future development. You can't make the same arguments pirates make about Windows - "Oh, it sucks anyway, they should be paying me to use it".
If you can't handle that, maybe you should run Linux on your Mac. Builds are available for PPC and Intel and we won't have to listen to your crap ever again, so bonus for everyone. Or if you've got an Intel why don't you just wipe the drive and slap a pirated Windows on it? Then you can even play with your elite warez!
Archive and Install installs OS X from scratch and then imports your accounts, applications, and settings. In fact, it was my understanding that the Upgrade option was removed from Leopard in favor of Archive and Install. I guess I was misinformed.
Maybe...
I feel kind of dumb for trading RPMs for gigabytes when I got mine... my friend's 5400 seems equally fast for the same tasks. I bet you'll be fine.
I feel kind of dumb for trading RPMs for gigabytes when I got mine... my friend's 5400 seems equally fast for the same tasks. I bet you'll be fine.
to the moral police: I have never seen such a large group of jealous people in one area in a long, long time. so what if someone's already using Leopard? big whoop-dee-freakin-doo......
you guys that are complaining must have been the same types of kids in kindergarden that were complaining about how the next person next to you got six jellybeans when you only got five. again, big whoop-dee-freakin-doo.
life isn't fair. deal with it...
you guys that are complaining must have been the same types of kids in kindergarden that were complaining about how the next person next to you got six jellybeans when you only got five. again, big whoop-dee-freakin-doo.
life isn't fair. deal with it...
Please, no moral equivalency. Stealing windows is just as illegal.
Stealing a Beethoven CD is the same as stealing Britney Spears latest dreck.
Here's to the one percent!!!
To be honest with you, at this stage, I've no love for a company that refuses to charge equally around the world for a product. why does America pay so much less then anywhere else? It's not as if they have any translation costs or anything to Ireland is it??? Apple produce great software and superb hardware but I'm not willing to pay more then my fair share for something.
Has nothing to do with jealousy. If you genius would just read what people have written you might actually realize what the problem is many people have with the thread.
And if you think that personal insults help you with your argument you're a far bigger lost case than I thought. But then again, I don't expect you to understand those things.
So just forget what I just said, if you haven't already.
Yeah, considering what Macs cost in Latin America I should just go to the shop and steal one right? I mean after all, why would I pay more than what I consider my fair share for something?
I am not scared!
Check your license agreements. Distribution or sharing of copyrighted software is illegal. Obtaining the media (without sharing - no Torrents!) of a product which license you have paid is not illegal!
The license agreement specifies not to make ILLEGAL copies of Leopard!
I was just trying to inform you people. If you dont want it then fine. Some people are asking if iTunes is in a new version. The version is 7.4.2
RSS in Mail.app works now a reboot did the trick
I had a problem creating Web Clips with my ugraded profil. I had to deselect the CSS file in Safari to make it work!
Rendexing on my iMac took approx. 3 hours! During this time search was not available
Everything else works great. I didnt have of course enough time to test but for now I can say I like it a lot! Speed is the biggest improvement of Leopard
Finally I want to say I do not support piracy in any way and I have checked the license agreement with a lawyer! (my brother is one!)
I am not illegal and I do not have any NDA. Illegal is the one that posted Leopard on the newsgroups. Torrents are a bad idea!
Absurd... any product costs different in different countries. Even Big Macs cost different amounts in different countries. Sounds like you're not willing to pay for anything at all.
Glad you are back and the people in the other thread didn't stop you coming back. Thanks for the info BTW.
Thanks!
Here is also my receipt of my purchase. I am not posting my name or address of course...
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I'd like to know what 7200rpm HDDs you're looking at for your MacBook Pro. Care to show a link or three?
Depends on your connection, and if it's only one seeder and 3000 leechers which only has 0% of the files and the seeder got 10kB/s upload or if it's 500 seeders and 3000 leachers which all got around 95% and the seeders got 500kB/s upload
What do you want to know?
I only downloaded Leopard because it wont be coming till Monday or Tuesday and the whole week I am away! I wanted to have it this weekend! Is that bad? I paid for it, I don't copy it, I am not distributing it! I have two computers at home and I could easily buy the single license but I bought the family pack despite the fact that I live alone!
I did the same with iWork. I have spent thousand of Euros the last two years in Apple products. I am a loyal fan and I won't accept any accusations from anyone (this isnt directed to you - I am speaking generally)
If someone wants to know sth specific, I will answer if that is of course possible.
I just finished upgrading my Macboon, installation took a little longer, around 42 Minutes. Everything seems to work ok at the moment. I want to check the speed now.
I can get the same thing in less than 100 seconds if someone are willing to send it fastThat might need a little work. I'll be starting with a new machines.
I can get Ubuntu (~700 MB) in about 20-30 minutes via torrents from home.