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Any 3rd party speed bumps?

When I upgrade to Leopard, it will be on my G5 2Ghz DP desktop, and my MacBookPro Intel 2.3Ghz machines.

If you really don't care that much about the new features... are there any other reasons to upgrade? Does it make everything on your machine faster at all? Or just apps like iLife? Will apps like Photoshop, Motion, FCP, etc. run any faster with faster render times? Or are all the speed increases limited to the new OS features only?
 
When I upgrade to Leopard, it will be on my G5 2Ghz DP desktop, and my MacBookPro Intel 2.3Ghz machines.

If you really don't care that much about the new features... are there any other reasons to upgrade? Does it make everything on your machine faster at all? Or just apps like iLife? Will apps like Photoshop, Motion, FCP, etc. run any faster with faster render times? Or are all the speed increases limited to the new OS features only?

Its definitely faster but It wont affect rendering, processing times etc...The OS itself is optimized for multiple cores. You ll see a speed improvement in the OS components. If you dont care about that or the new feature dont upgrade.
I would suggest that u get it though for your laptop.
 
iChat 4.0 is great!

I just finished an iChat session with a friend that still has tiger. I could use all effects without a problem! Sharing iPhoto, playing videos, everything was possible. The quality was also great and I could play in realtime videos! The other could watch them with no issues! He has only 768Kbps but he didnt have any problems!
I find the new iChat one of the best features of Leopard!
 
I just finished an iChat session with a friend that still has tiger. I could use all effects without a problem! Sharing iPhoto, playing videos, everything was possible. The quality was also great and I could play in realtime videos! The other could watch them with no issues! He has only 768Kbps but he didnt have any problems!
I find the new iChat one of the best features of Leopard!

Was this on your iMac or Macbook? I have a 2.16 C2D Macbook with 2GB of RAM. Another guy in this thread was saying now slow Leopard was on his Macbook so I'm getting kinda worried. How smooth is it on your Macbook?
 
Was this on your iMac or Macbook? I have a 2.16 C2D Macbook with 2GB of RAM. Another guy in this thread was saying now slow Leopard was on his Macbook so I'm getting kinda worried. How smooth is it on your Macbook?

I am using Leopard on my Macbook for the last two hours and the performance is very good. No slow downs, nothing!
 
Why do you assume everything is downloaded from torrents? I downloaded my copy from another source I wont mention here. I have a 25Mbit line and I could use the whole bandwidth for the download! It finished in 30 mins!

Dude, you got it from usenet, it's not like it's a big secret.

Still this raises an interesting point.

If you legitimately pay for software, does it matter how you obtain it?

You don't actually pay to own software, you pay to license it. So if you are in possession of a legal, valid license, it really doesn't matter how you obtained the actual bytes of data, does it?

BTW I loved the wife-beater!
 
Dashboard Widgets .Mac sync!

Ok, I had on both my machines various widgets, some of them were the same on both sides. I enabled syncing of the dashboard widgets through .Mac and after that I saw that on my Macbook all Widgets were copied. There were many duplicates which I had to delete. After doing that syncing works ok.
 
Just give an idea of different machine install speed:

It took exactly 35 minutes to install from an old I-pod photo onto a macbook 2.16Ghz Core2Duo, 1GB RAM.

Edit: I used the 'upgrade' method, not 'clean' install as it were.

You can place the Leopard image (obviously obtained legally) onto an ipod and install it off there?
 
My friend, who works for a very large multimedia software company, got his legit copy of Leopard today and just installed it on his Macbook Pro. So *SOME* people are receiving copies already..

That is correct. Although in this case, the SoCal fires unofficially closed our offices. As a mass switch is scheduled for next week, some people chose to get upgraded and kill time out of the office with Leopard. Early upgrades were offered to a few of us, and I was willing to go to the office to have it done.

FWIW, the installation took 31 minutes on a 2GHz Core Duo and went very smoothly, followed by an initial restart of 2-3 minutes and the "Welcome" diddy. Software Update requested an update to the Remote Desktop Client (3.2.1). Spotlight Indexing took approximately 27 minutes.

I've just arrived back home to start playing around...
 
Why do you assume everything is downloaded from torrents? I downloaded my copy from another source I wont mention here. I have a 25Mbit line and I could use the whole bandwidth for the download! It finished in 30 mins!

If I were going to pirate it (I can wait a few days) I would use Rapidshare...
 
I've just checked my order details on my 5 license pack; it says it's "prepared for shipping". I'm assuming this means it will be dispatched tomorrow for delivery on Friday (fingers crossed). Assuming that Apple haven't paid the courier firms to only deliver after 6pm, I should receive it earlier than the launch time - am I a) going to need to change my nationality to German and b) going to get lynched for having it before the people buying it in person? :)

Of course! :) Lynching should cease now that the subject of all this torment has bravely stepped forward and explained the situation. Personally, I just appreciate the information he provided, no matter how he attained the product. I don't really consider it any of my business or anyone elses for that matter.
 
Really pathetic that Appple does not release it to there developer and enterprise customers even a little more then two day's before the release. At this rate I will have to go a buy a final copy for enterprise integration on Friday or wait until a week after the commercial release to recieve a copy of server adn client. Apple wake up and realize that even though you could have Enterprise penetration this is exactly why you do not. It is going to leak anyway so why not release it to those that have been testing and probably wouldn't leak it, unlike the way you give the gm to all the users in your company and have them install it themselves. O.K rant done sorry....

You're pretty brave to be installing what amounts to a 1.0 version of a new OS the day it is released across an entire "enterprise". If this upgrade really was critical to you you could have become an Apple Enterprise customer and/or a Apple Developer both of whom have access to new/unreleased builds of OSX (and other pieces of software).
 
How did you install it? Can you install Leopard over zee network?
I just put the DVD in, clicked on Install, put my password and rebooted the computer (that step was automatically done). 30 minutes later I was in Leopard!
Network installs? I dont know, but I dont think so
 
Dude, you got it from usenet, it's not like it's a big secret.

Still this raises an interesting point.

If you legitimately pay for software, does it matter how you obtain it?

You don't actually pay to own software, you pay to license it. So if you are in possession of a legal, valid license, it really doesn't matter how you obtained the actual bytes of data, does it?

BTW I loved the wife-beater!

thats my point exactly!
 
I'm glad to hear that the first impressions of Leopard, as well as installing and running are good (wherever it came from). I've pre-ordered mine, but i am always interested to hear of any major problems before i do a major upgrade. That said, time to backup before friday...
 
Anyone knows if Quicksilver is working with Leopard?
If so, is it better/same/worst as with Tiger?

QS worsk, but the plugins (Adress book etc.) won't. So you can only use it as application launcher for now. But it's open source now so it won't be long until it's fully operational in Leopard.
 
I just put the DVD in, clicked on Install, put my password and rebooted the computer (that step was automatically done). 30 minutes later I was in Leopard!
Network installs? I dont know, but I dont think so

They say about an hour on the apple website on the overview video because there is about 3 times the data of Tiger.
 
I'm glad to hear that the first impressions of Leopard, as well as installing and running are good (wherever it came from). I've pre-ordered mine, but i am always interested to hear of any major problems before i do a major upgrade. That said, time to backup before friday...

What have we learned that we already didn't know?
 
What have we learned that we already didn't know?

We learned that it's pretty much everything we've heard so far, with nothing new. Oh, sorry, it takes at least 30 minutes to load on a Core Duo. Not to discount Leopard, I'm really looking forward to it! Should be sweet.

We also learned some people take offense to illegally obtained copies (or maybe just early copies) and others will defend them to the bitter end. It's really not much different debating the merits of hacking an iPhone. Both actions may result in great outcomes. The iPhone will be open to 3rd party developers and the early Leopard installers might catch some early bugs and get Apple cranking on some patches for the rest of us. Do the ends justify the means? Ah, grasshopper...

I wonder what feature most people are going to purchase Leopard for? For me, it's a tossup between Mail and Time Machine.
 
i want to know how safari handles pdfs. because in tiger it sucks really really bad. i hate it. and it's strange because preview opens them super fast.
 
FWIW, the installation took 31 minutes on a 2GHz Core Duo and went very smoothly, followed by an initial restart of 2-3 minutes and the "Welcome" diddy. Software Update requested an update to the Remote Desktop Client (3.2.1). Spotlight Indexing took approximately 27 minutes.

Any updates to 10.5 available from Apple's update service yet?
 
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