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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard - Still Waiting

mklos said:
I really don't understand why people wait until Leopard is shipping to get a new Mac. Why? I'd rather buy my own standalone copy of Leopard. Then if I get rid of that Mac, I still have my own copy with me and not some proprietary version that only works with the Mac it shipped on.
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That's not how it works. An OS X DVD is an OS X DVD. Period.

There are no hardware-specific OEMs.
 
From personal experience I can tell you that is not true and Apple had an internal build of OS X running on an Intel Platform for a few years before ANYONE knew about it.

They can be and are very secretative often.
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Stridder44 said:
Yeah, and OS X wasn't being developed for Intel years before they just spilled the beans. Oh wait....

Consumers and developers alike made that switch pretty fast.
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there is a massive difference between an active beta for a future product and a "plan b" version that might never see the light of day. there was no benefit to releasing an intel beta version of os x prior to apple decision to switch to the x86 platform. not to mention developers were given 9 months of beta testing with os x for intel.

it does a disservice to apple, the developers and the consumers to hold back some secret version of leopard. each build introduces new bugs, fixes others, deprecates some rare API; the whole purpose of a beta is to find those bugs. keeping this "secret version" back does nothing more than delay the eventual release.

this isn't really that tough, build frequency increases; release candidate released, gold master released; production; release. we haven't even seen the start of this process yet. leopard will not be out before may and i doubt we'll see it until june.
 
Better Later And Right Than Earlier And Wrong

I've always thought it wouldn't be before May so June sound fine. Maybe Steve will reveal all the secrets as well as announce it's shipping in his June 11th WWDC SteveNote.
 
I think Leopard will be released in May. June will be reserved for iPhone and WWDC stuff- you need Leopard beforehand for the developers!

Anyone know why WWDC was pushed up?



Release Dates (13, assuming upcoming tuesdays):
March 20 (21st the :apple:TV shipped), 27 (CS3 is released); April 3, 10, 17 (NAB keynote is the 15th), 24; May 1, 8, 15, 22, 29; June 5, 12 (WWDC)

Products (11 excluding :apple:TV):
Mac Mini, Mac Pro, Cinema Display, MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac, iPods, iPhone, Leopard + iSoftware, Final Cut et. al., and possibly xServe at WWDC? (haven't heard anything)

Not to mention something unexpected up their sleeves, and popular accessories like iPod Hi-Fi, MightyMouse and Airport Express or other applications/.Mac.


All of this said, are we all in agreement that the products listed will get updated by WWDC?

-=|Mgkwho
 
psychometry said:
That's not how it works. An OS X DVD is an OS X DVD. Period.

There are no hardware-specific OEMs.
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Actually, I remember having the CD or DVD that came w/ a new (at the time) Mac. When I tried installing it on a different kind of Mac, it said that it wasn't supported b/c not the right Mac model. The version of Mac OS totally supported on both computers (I think it was 8.5 for an iMac trying to install on a G3 iBook). While not Mac OS X, Apple is known to do that.
 
LOL: Leopard On Linux

My guess (and that's all it is) is that Leopard (at least Leopard Server) will have the option to run on Linux as well as the current flavor of Unix.

...could be interesting!
 
psychometry said:
That's not how it works. An OS X DVD is an OS X DVD. Period.

There are no hardware-specific OEMs.
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Umm no. Stick my MacBook DVDs into an ibook and see how that works.


Oh and the next Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn" will be out in april... not that apple really will be competing with them. But I'm shure it will get alot of news coverage when released and they want that to die down so leopard will steal the show.
 
dicklacara said:
My guess (and that's all it is) is that Leopard (at least Leopard Server) will have the option to run on Linux as well as the current flavor of Unix.

...could be interesting!
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What a totally weird thing to say! Why on earth would OS X server 'run on Linux' it is an OS all its own! If you want Linux run Linux if you want OS X run OS X.
 
psychometry said:
That's not how it works. An OS X DVD is an OS X DVD. Period.

There are no hardware-specific OEMs.
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The software disks that come with a new mac will not work in another mac model. I'm pretty sure there's some sort of check in the DVD that looks at the model of computer vs what the disk allows. ie the disks that came with my iMac will only work in a similar iMac (not sure about the core duo/core2duo distinction).
 
iJawn108 said:
Umm no. Stick my MacBook DVDs into an ibook and see how that works.
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I have 8 different Macs -- each one has its own hardware-specific copy of OS X (boot disk) that is shipped with the computer.

However, a Purchased stand-alone OS X should install on any (supported) Mac that is available at the time of purchase...

...Obviously, a Stand-alone OS X before the Intel switch will not install on Intel boxes.

Dick
 
AlBDamned said:
I noticed a tiny thing the other day that will do nothing to swing the debate one way or the other, but take a a look at these two pictures taken from two different national Apple sites at the bottom of the Mac OS X tab along the top.

Australian Site is first, US site is second. Notice anything?
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i don't notice anything...it says mid 2007 and spring 2007...that doesn't mean diddly squat
 
FF_productions said:
Of course it is. Leopard is going to be discussed at WWDC 07 and WWDC is alll about the developers so obviously the focus is on the Operating System.
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wouldn't that then imply that leopard had already been released or its "top secret" features had already been revealed by then or done during that event?
 
mattscott306 said:
I'm thinking another event somewhere in between NAB and WWDC for the Leopard announcement. (More like hoping). They do promise a spring delivery on the site, so it has to be before WWDC.
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I've been thinking mid-late May at the earliest and don't have any problem with between June and AUGUST to expect Leopard's release.
 
jlestes said:
wouldn't that then imply that leopard had already been released or its "top secret" features had already been revealed by then or done during that event?
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I think it will be released before WWDC, and then discussed at WWDC. They did the same thing with Tiger, it was released in April 05, then in June 05 he played around with Tiger.
 
No SafariBlock?! Maybe no Leopard for me

Article mentions that Safari plugins are no longer available in Leopard.
If I lose the ability to block ads, I might not want to upgrade to Leopard. Most of what I've seen previewed has been minor enhancements, nothing thats really a must have. Blocking ads is a must have that I have with Tiger. I sure hope Safariblock folks find a way to work in Safari 3.0 or that Apple has built in that function.
 
dmelgar said:
Article mentions that Safari plugins are no longer available in Leopard.
If I lose the ability to block ads, I might not want to upgrade to Leopard. Most of what I've seen previewed has been minor enhancements, nothing thats really a must have. Blocking ads is a must have that I have with Tiger. I sure hope Safariblock folks find a way to work in Safari 3.0 or that Apple has built in that function.
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Why would they take it away. You know there is a pop-up blocker Picture 1.png built into Safari?
 
Answer: Firefox
dmelgar said:
Article mentions that Safari plugins are no longer available in Leopard.
If I lose the ability to block ads, I might not want to upgrade to Leopard. Most of what I've seen previewed has been minor enhancements, nothing thats really a must have. Blocking ads is a must have that I have with Tiger. I sure hope Safariblock folks find a way to work in Safari 3.0 or that Apple has built in that function.
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dicklacara said:
P-E-R-F-O-R-M-A-N-C-E / O-P-P-O-R-T-U-N-I-T-Y
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I don't think you understand....

Tiger is an operating system.
Leopard is an operating system.
Windows is an operating system.
Linux is an operating system.
Unix is an operating system.

You don't run one on the other. They run independently. Sure, you could emulate and virtualize, but the performance is absolute crap.
 
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