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Hope I'll stop getting weekly Kernel Panics, application crashes, Safari hangs, total system freezes and so on (which I never ever had not even a tiny bit on Leopard).

Since Snow Leopard came out I haven't had *one* Safari crash and I use Safari extensively every day. Upgraded to Snow Leopard the day it came out.

None of your ”Kernel Panics” and total ”system freezes” has happened either.

We also have a handfull of users here at work that's started to use Snow Leopard for quite heavy graphic design stuff (catalogue production) and no one has complained.

Overall 10.6.1 works just as well as Leopard for me or even better.
In Leopard it happened that the app switcher (cmd tab) sometimes didn't show all running apps –*that is gone since SL.

The few issues I've noted are quite minor.

I do understand that there are bugs in 10.6.1 and I also look forward to 10.6.2, but to think that ”Kernel Panics”, ”system freezes” and ”Safari crashes” are common in 10.6.1 is incorrect.
 
I do understand that there are bugs in 10.6.1 and I also look forward to 10.6.2, but to think that ”Kernel Panics”, ”system freezes” and ”Safari crashes” are common in 10.6.1 is incorrect.

I've never understood this. How can ever experiences of a few users, render something "common" or "uncommon"? Especially, how can that make you so sure? Seems sort of dogmatic to me. Even if you had 50 users, and no one complained (or even if they complained), that would still not be a representative selection of all of the SL users...?

I'm not taking a stand and saying SL is buggy or not, or trying to refute your statement. All I'm saying is that in general I believe it's pretty naive to be positive either way based on a few personal/familiar experiences. I would think only Apple Support, etc. would really know;)
 
"full native support"

I hope that means they will add sensitivity to the tracking adjustments so I won't have keep lifting the mouse off the desk to get it from one side of the screen to the other. Lots of users of the new Magic Mouse agree that it's required.

Rich :cool:
 
I've never understood this. How can ever experiences of a few users, render something "common" or "uncommon"? Especially, how can that make you so sure? Seems sort of dogmatic to me. Even if you had 50 users, and no one complained (or even if they complained), that would still not be a representative selection of all of the SL users...?

I'm not taking a stand and saying SL is buggy or not, or trying to refute your statement. All I'm saying is that in general I believe it's pretty naive to be positive either way based on a few personal/familiar experiences. I would think only Apple Support, etc. would really know;)

Completely agree with you. For me SL works like a charm from day 1 (actually I installed the very same day 10.6.1 was released so I could not test 10.6.0), but obviously that is not representative. The most convincing evidence that SL is buggy for a good number of people is the fact the Apple is releasing 10.6.2. That's the purpose of this kind of updates (although they could also introduce some functionality or improve how the system works, in most cases, specially for the earlier ones, they correct bugs).
 
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it fixes the graphics bug in Aperture which puts a thick grey bar (looks like part of a dialogue title bar) over the second column in the Export folder selection dialogue and stops you selecting the folder that's under it (with the mouse; have to use the arrow keys).
 
I've had dozens. So much for the new "if a plugin crashes, it won't bring down your browser" feature.

By the way, did Apple copy that feature from IE8, or is it just a coincidence that IE8 already had it? (Of course, IE8 very rarely dies, and does recover from plugin crashes nicely.)
 
Am I the only one who has not had any stability problems with Snow Leopard 10.6.0 or 10.6.1? I'm looking forward to the update as much as anyone, but I haven't had any stability issues or major issues that I can think of.
 
What about eduroam?

Since I upgraded to Snow Leopard, I could no longer log to my College eduroam network. This happened to 13 iMacs and Macbooks in my department alone. I know this is happening in other institutions, not only in Portugal, where I live, but throughout Europe. (See the Apple forum threads on this subject...)

So, will Apple fix this bug? Any ideas?
 
Hope I'll stop getting weekly Kernel Panics, application crashes, Safari hangs, total system freezes and so on (which I never ever had not even a tiny bit on Leopard).

If you're getting weekly kernel panics then there is something wrong with your hardware. Have you done a hardware check? have you isolated to what kernel extension is was?
 
I don't know why everybody is so fixated on updates. With the World scheduled to come to an end in a little over two years, I have more important things to worry about.
 
I've never understood this. How can ever experiences of a few users, render something "common" or "uncommon"? Especially, how can that make you so sure? Seems sort of dogmatic to me. Even if you had 50 users, and no one complained (or even if they complained), that would still not be a representative selection of all of the SL users...?

I'm not taking a stand and saying SL is buggy or not, or trying to refute your statement. All I'm saying is that in general I believe it's pretty naive to be positive either way based on a few personal/familiar experiences. I would think only Apple Support, etc. would really know;)

Well, I've never understood why some people seem to think that just because they have problems with Mac OS X on their computer/Mac OS X installation it means everyone has it i.e. it's a bug in Mac OS X.

I see what you're trying to say, but I don't think it applies very well to how buggy the foundations of an operating system are. Since I have several examples where it *does* work I'm pretty sure that means the base of the system at least isn't as bad as baryon seems to think with his Kernel Panics and extensive Safari crashes etc.
There's probably a good reason for his crashes, but I don't think they're directly related to Mac OS X 10.6.1 itself.

If the hardware is OK a fresh install of Snow Leopard would probably put things right.

At the same time there has been (I know of a network related Kernel Panic in Tiger that never got fixed) and probably are software bugs that can cause a Kernel Panic, but they should be quite rare.

I also think I saw something about an AFP related Kernel Panic that was fixed in one of the 10.6.2 builds. Haven't seen any trace of it so far though...
 
I don't know why everybody is so fixated on updates. With the World scheduled to come to an end in a little over two years, I have more important things to worry about.


Actually, 2012 will be the beginning of the end, not the end.

I'll still need my notebook for probably at least a year after that.
 
Great!! Looks like I won't be upgrading to snowy for a further year! I'm still using rock stable Leopard, apparently that's a good thing judging from the number of early adopters; well I hope this release is a massive improvement for the rest of you guys.
I have had "0" issues with snow - just so you know :)
 
By the way, did Apple copy that feature from IE8, or is it just a coincidence that IE8 already had it? (Of course, IE8 very rarely dies, and does recover from plugin crashes nicely.)

I believe this feature appeared first in the Google Browser - Chrome.

Why was this never though of sooner!?

Personally, I've found SL to be significantly more stable than Leopard was, initially. The main glitch I've come across is the lack of printer driver support, but that issue has now passed. ( I don't use guest accounts, so was never affected ).

Apple have done a good job in SL.
 
Heres hoping it addresses the backlight issue with the 9CC2 panels. Any developer that gets it please report back to us with details on EVERYTHING :)
 
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