Mac OS X 10.6.2 Build 10C540 Seeded to Developers

[guzhogi]

Really hope this fixes the bug with my AppleTV where it would randomly delete all the TV shows & movies I had on it. Really frustrating going to my AppleTV, finding out that none of my shows are on it, having to go upstairs to where my computer is, open iTunes, and then go back downstairs to watch it. It's intermittent enough so I don't know if iTunes 9.0.2 or AppleTV v3 fixed it, but if not, I hope 10.6.2 does.

 

[TheSpaz]

Snow Leopard has been an excellent experience for me even since 10.6.0.

I just hope they update the Magic Mouse driver. The current driver is too slow (tracking speed).

Or perhaps the driver will work better under 10.6.2. Maybe Apple was planning on releasing 10.6.2 before the Magic Mouse, but didn't have time so they threw together a separate driver really quick to support the Magic Mouse launch and the better drivers are in 10.6.2.

I don't know though.

 

[Kurite]

I'm guessing that at least one of the VMWare fixes involves VMWare not being able to properly utilize the latest iMac disc drive. For example, it was impossible for me to install an OS via disc into a VM environment. I had to use an ISO (which isn't a horrible thing at all; likely much faster anyway).

And yes, if your kernel is panicking weekly and your system is basically unstable, it probably is hardware related. That tends to be the case with any *nix system. I'd suggest running a full diagnostic. Physical memory does go bad as a relatively recent report from Google proves.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10370026-264.html

 

[AidenShaw]

I believe this feature appeared first in the Google Browser - Chrome.

IE8 Beta 1 was released in public beta on 5 March 2008. It contained LCIE (Loosely-Coupled IE), which is Microsoft's name for process-per-tab. There's much more detail on an MSDN Blog called IE8 and Reliability.

Google Chrome Beta was publicly released on 2 September 2008.

Process-per-tab was in public use in IE8 six months before Chrome was available.

 

[Richard1028]

I do not understand why people are impatient and want the update now,

What a narrow minded statement. A lot of folks need some of the fixes ASAP. I for one would like my color profiles to "stick" on my 2nd monitor.

rather than rush out a minor update which fixes some of the problems and then have to release further updates to fix the bugs they missed.

By your logic, there should be only one update for each new OSX release.

And 10.6.2 is not a minor update... there's 350+ issues being addressed.

 

[pondosinatra]

With Microsoft they always say wait for the first Service Pack release - well with Apple always wait until the first .2 release

Will this update fix me not being able to buy an iMac with a non-glossy screen???

 

[iBug2]

With Microsoft they always say wait for the first Service Pack release - well with Apple always wait until the first .2 release

Except Apple releases 10 service packs in the lifespan of an OS where Windows gets 2. So if Apple was as slow as Microsoft we'd have a stable OS by the time of 5 service packs, but we usually get all the major issues fixed in the 2nd.

 

[Kurite]

Everything should ideally be perfect from day one; but the way the world works is that they aren't. The next best thing is to speedily fix issues as they come up.

also you get to appreciate the frequent bug fixes compared to windows. When Microsoft does an update, they're extremely vague as to what problem the update fixes and they force the update on you rather than you choosing to accept the update.

Well said. Windows 7 users aren't expecting their first Service Pack until after January next year (they say a beta may be released by then). Users of MacOSX, and no offense, are spoiled with Apple's frequent point updates. MS *typically* only releases security fixes through their Windows Update mechanism and do not fix the other odd errors or software functionality issues until the Service Pack. You guys are very well taken care of and I'm glad to now be a Mac user. I'm tired of Microsoft's model.

 

[pounce]

It looks like 10.6.2 might be everything Snow Leopard should have been on day one.

that seems to be the way it's worked for the past couple of osx versions. the .2 update is the first one that makes things solid enough to be called done.

 

[Yves Creebs]

They need to fix problems while connected to a server.

My home server and the server at work is barely functional under os10.6. I reboot in 10.5 and everything is great.

ALSO my Cintiq does not work properly under 10.6, i reboot in 10.5 and it works like a champ. I think it has something to do with the refresh rate. Wacom said they get calls about it every day.

 

[ToM7]

hmm, you're right, I reckon 10.6.11 will be the best EVER update!

hahah like !!

 

[TheSpaz]

that seems to be the way it's worked for the past couple of osx versions. the .2 update is the first one that makes things solid enough to be called done.

A major OS update is NEVER going to be perfect out of the box. Once the OS gets into the hands of millions, bugs are easier to find because everyone have their own unique way of working.

If Apple waited until there were no bugs before issuing a major OS update... they would never release an OS update. With something as complicated as an entire OS, they can't possibly catch everything before it's released.

 

[Eric S.]

Does that mean the SL beta is over?

Mac OS X betas generally end with the .2 release.

A major OS update is NEVER going to be perfect out of the box. Once the OS gets into the hands of millions, bugs are easier to find because everyone have their own unique way of working.

And for everyone who has installed 10.6 thus far to do their main work, we thank you for being Apple's beta testers.

Maybe Apple was planning on releasing 10.6.2 before the Magic Mouse, but didn't have time so they threw together a separate driver really quick to support the Magic Mouse launch and the better drivers are in 10.6.2.

Threw together a separate driver? I doubt it.

 

[darbyclash34]

The process per tab function in Safari seems to do absolutely nothing. Flash player crashes Safari all the time, it's a plugin and it's bringing down the entire browser. I love how Apple defenders on this site say, Oh well, it's Adobe's fault, Flash Player sucks. Ok, great, Flash Player sucks. I thought that an advantage of running 10.6 on a 64 bit processor was that a plugin couldn't bring down the browser. So much for that wonderful new feature.

 

[camiloken]

Issues so far

Apart from the big "delete information from you hard drive when enabling guest account". (thank god it is disabled by default)

I get:

Graphics glitches (especially safari)
Finder view options default not staying default
Flash plugin for safari (always a problem before too)
64 bit drivers for machines from 2007/ 2008

Apart from that, it is as stable as Leopard. I specially like the 5 second shutdown. I hope they could do something speed startup to 5~10 seconds (right now about 25~30 seconds).


Macbook black, late 2008, 2.2GHz C2D, 4 GB Ram

 

[TheSpaz]

Mac OS X betas generally end with the .2 release.



And for everyone who has installed 10.6 thus far to do their main work, we thank you for being Apple's beta testers.



Threw together a separate driver? I doubt it.

I would have to go ahead and say that 10.6.0 has been FAR from a beta release. It's fast and stable for me. Is it perfect? No, probably not, but it's not beta-like.

Like I said... I don't know if they rushed the Magic Mouse drivers out or not... it was just a theory. You don't know any better than I do.

 

[aardwolf]

How do you guys keep posting about new builds before it's even available to the testers? I'm still seeing 10C535...

The tester forum for 10C540 doesn't even exist... how could someone have looked at the release notes?

 

[jbuk]

Hopefully the OpenGL drawing in Plex/XBMC on an Intel x3100 is fixed in this build.

 

[rtdunham]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it fixes the graphics bug in Aperture which puts a thick grey bar (looks like part of a dialogue title bar) over the second column in the Export folder selection dialogue and stops you selecting the folder that's under it (with the mouse; have to use the arrow keys).

have you reported it to apple? the feedback link, for anyone who'd like to report a bug, is:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

 

[Eric S.]

Like I said... I don't know if they rushed the Magic Mouse drivers out or not... it was just a theory. You don't know any better than I do.

But there's a difference between rushing a driver out, for example when it may not be feature complete or fully optimized, and throwing together a separate driver really quick (as you put it before).

 

[c.s.]

intermittent black screen with 24" LED ACD

Any chance that one of the graphic card fixes will remedy the intermittent black flashes that a lot of users are experiencing with the 24" LED cinema display? I have one display that does it, and one that does not, so I'm not convinced it's a driver issue. Trying to decide if I should send it back.

 

[iigsie]

Who in their right mind would vote negative for the fact that Apple seeded this build to developers?

The comments and votes on this site become more pathetic day by day. Grow up people!!!

 

[baryon]

Since Snow Leopard came out I haven't had *one* Safari crash and I use Safari extensively every day. Upgraded to Snow Leopard the day it came out.

None of your ”Kernel Panics” and total ”system freezes” has happened either.

We also have a handfull of users here at work that's started to use Snow Leopard for quite heavy graphic design stuff (catalogue production) and no one has complained.

Overall 10.6.1 works just as well as Leopard for me or even better.
In Leopard it happened that the app switcher (cmd tab) sometimes didn't show all running apps –*that is gone since SL.

The few issues I've noted are quite minor.

I do understand that there are bugs in 10.6.1 and I also look forward to 10.6.2, but to think that ”Kernel Panics”, ”system freezes” and ”Safari crashes” are common in 10.6.1 is incorrect.

The Kernel Panics only happened to me while I was rendering videos in Final Cut Pro using the Dedicated graphics card in my MacBook Pro. I turned it to "Better Battery Life" now and it doesn't crash anymore.

Of course a lot of people won't have any of these problems, it depends on how you use your computer. I'm just saying, I don't have any fancy stuff installed, I don't mess with the Library, I use my Mac as I'm supposed to, and the Kernel Panics still happened. If I didn't use Final Cut Pro I would probably say the same as you.

 

[Rocketman]

How do you guys keep posting about new builds before it's even available to the testers? I'm still seeing 10C535...

The tester forum for 10C540 doesn't even exist... how could someone have looked at the release notes?

There are three tiers of testers. The lower level like people like you (Tier 3) get the latest build. Tier 2 gets the latest Beta and Tier 1 gets the latest alpha.

That methodology allows low level bugs and critical and obvious bugs to be caught and squashed before more testing people get it. Tier 3 always ends up on file sharing sites and in netbooks.

Tier 1 and 2 also have unreleased features. Including full read-write ZFS.

Rocketman

 

[AidenShaw]

Except Apple releases 10 service packs in the lifespan of an OS where Windows gets 2. So if Apple was as slow as Microsoft we'd have a stable OS by the time of 5 service packs, but we usually get all the major issues fixed in the 2nd.

But Microsoft releases monthly updates that contain both security patches, bug fixes, and sometimes incremental improvements.

Right now Windows Update is offering me 3 security patches, a new driver for my quad port GbE card, and a new Nvidia Quadro driver.

MS *typically* only releases security fixes through their Windows Update mechanism and do not fix the other odd errors or software functionality issues until the Service Pack.

See above. Functional changes are rare outside of service packs, but bug fixes are common even if not security issues. The old "improves stability" excuse....