Yes, and in 2000 Apple copied the playskool interface with happy traffic light buttons and the Aqua interface. They went even further and produced a whole array of playskool colored computers!
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Mac OS X 10.7 to Get iOS Scrollbars?
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Yes, and in 2000 Apple copied the playskool interface with happy traffic light buttons and the Aqua interface. They went even further and produced a whole array of playskool colored computers!
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Sir, you need to lighten up. I'm a professional graphic designer.
Naturally interface enchancements, no matter how subtle make many artists happy in their pants.
ive been using Smart Scroll on my macs for years now. Since the first iphones i think. Really great little tweak, check it out. Its definitely worth the little amount he charges for it, and i think there is a free preview for a limited time.
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Two reasons then: To save screen real-estate, to scroll ... and ruthless efficiency.
Actually, I would not mind much to see scrollbars disappearing. But in certain cases I would like to have them. For example, if I work with my Wacom Pen, or as mentioned by other folks, when clicking into the scrollbar to move a page up or down or even go directly to the position.
One thing which I hope nonetheless: Eliminate as much horizontal scrollbars as possible. And I mean eliminate, not just hide. Especially in Finder. They're evil.
The rubberband: No. I don't like. A document is at its end, when it is at its end and at its start when it is at its start. The current rubberband effect takes almost one second to calm down which confuses the eye and therefore distracts. Locating and reading text is much simpler and instant when the document scroll just stops instead of moving. I mostly think of coding. This was the same thing with the genie-effect of the save-panel. They made the transition much shorter and simpler which has a more "pro" feeling and is much less distracting.
One thing which I hope nonetheless: Eliminate as much horizontal scrollbars as possible. And I mean eliminate, not just hide. Especially in Finder. They're evil.
The rubberband: No. I don't like. A document is at its end, when it is at its end and at its start when it is at its start. The current rubberband effect takes almost one second to calm down which confuses the eye and therefore distracts. Locating and reading text is much simpler and instant when the document scroll just stops instead of moving. I mostly think of coding. This was the same thing with the genie-effect of the save-panel. They made the transition much shorter and simpler which has a more "pro" feeling and is much less distracting.
I just hope the changes are not this trivial
How a scroll bar looks is downright trivial. I hope the changes in the next Mac OS X are to add real features. Some of what I'd like to see are
1) Resolution independent displays
2) ZFS file system or something just like it. basically a volume manager and raid system built right into the file system
3) How about good quality voice recognition built into the user interface
4) Security based on pervasive encryption
5) (we have this now but it is to hard for most people to set up and use, so maybe they just make it easy, like Time machine made incremental backup easy) Your home directory and desktop follow you as you log into different commputers. People who own multipleMacs would have just one set of files
6) This one is obvious: An IOS emulator app. Launch it and you get an iPad on your screen. Ok you already get this as part of xcode but again make it easy to use by non-technical users.
7) make use of network computer resources. For example if you are using a notebook mac and there is an Apple Mac Pro on the local network, put it to use running software wit the display sent back to the slower notebook. Big compute jobs could be offloaded to any nearby computer.
8) SERIOUS anti-theft features built into the firmware and an Apple hosted database of owners and theft reports. The mac should be designed such that a "lost" mac can't be used on-line or if it is connected on-line all it does is report itself continuously.
I know what sells computers is thinks like if dialog boxes have rounded corners or not but I'd for once like to see something truly new.
How a scroll bar looks is downright trivial. I hope the changes in the next Mac OS X are to add real features. Some of what I'd like to see are
1) Resolution independent displays
2) ZFS file system or something just like it. basically a volume manager and raid system built right into the file system
3) How about good quality voice recognition built into the user interface
4) Security based on pervasive encryption
5) (we have this now but it is to hard for most people to set up and use, so maybe they just make it easy, like Time machine made incremental backup easy) Your home directory and desktop follow you as you log into different commputers. People who own multipleMacs would have just one set of files
6) This one is obvious: An IOS emulator app. Launch it and you get an iPad on your screen. Ok you already get this as part of xcode but again make it easy to use by non-technical users.
7) make use of network computer resources. For example if you are using a notebook mac and there is an Apple Mac Pro on the local network, put it to use running software wit the display sent back to the slower notebook. Big compute jobs could be offloaded to any nearby computer.
8) SERIOUS anti-theft features built into the firmware and an Apple hosted database of owners and theft reports. The mac should be designed such that a "lost" mac can't be used on-line or if it is connected on-line all it does is report itself continuously.
I know what sells computers is thinks like if dialog boxes have rounded corners or not but I'd for once like to see something truly new.
I disagree. If anything, it's the Aqua scroll bars that are dated.
Who even uses scroll bars these days? Aren't scroll wheels standard on all mice? Frankly, the scroll bars just take up horizontal space, even if it's a mere few pixels.
Children still argue over this crap? Microsoft copies from Apple, Apple copies from Microsoft, Linux copies from both and Windows and Mac OS X take ideas from Linux. Can't we just move on?
Why on Earth should you feel you have to apologize for using Windows to serve your needs? I use Mac OS X and Windows all the time to get my work done. Too bad if it upsets the Apple purists around here.
Are you implying you can't "360 scroll" on Windows the way you can on Mac OS X by using the Mighty Mouse or something similar? Because you can... There are plenty of drivers to bring smooth scrolling, 360 degree scrolling, horizontal scrolling, full page scrolling, etc. to Windows.
But yes, I agree that Mac OS X should have the "rubber banding" effect that seems to go so naturally with inertial scrolling. I'm not quite sure how it would work on a desktop that has a fixed menu bar always visible at the top (as opposed to on iOS), but I'm sure there's a way to get it done.
Steve Ballmer the voice of reason? Sorry, that's too funny.
Of course not. We need raging teenagers on both sides claiming superiority. That's how internet discussion work.
I don't care who copies who just so long as I'm happy with whatever platform I drop money on. Right now Apple is EASILY winning the war for my cold hard cash. However, I don't get my panties in a bunch when Windows does something I like that OS X lacks.
That's my point exactly. I can't believe people still argue over who copied what from who. At the end of the day, it only leads to better products all around and thus we, the consumers, win.
You could still have the good user experience if you use Mac native apps. But a lot of businesses have custom software that would be costly to re-write. A lot of Windows software runs under Wine (I haven't personally tested it) but if embed that into the OS, you save a lot of businesses the expense of rewriting their custom programs.
In regards to another poster who mentioned the licensing cost of Windows, I am talking about emulation that hopefully can skirt any licensing fees.
Here is another way out guess....
3D interface for future Macs. I believe there are some displays out there that will give the user a 3d experience without the need for glasses. Of my three guesses though, the faster, smaller OS is where my money stands.
Wait, people are actually claiming Mac OS X will be able to run Windows apps natively? Um... no. Microsoft isn't just going to license Apple all of its important Windows APIs.
And, really, what is the point to this? Use a virtual machine or Boot Camp.
And, really, what is the point to this? Use a virtual machine or Boot Camp.
Yeah, virtualization already solves this "problem." It doesn't even make any sense at this point.
I like the storm in a teacup that happens when Apple even think about changing anything.. 3d dock.. Transparent menubar.. Now non-aqua scrollbars.
I wouldn't mind seeing aqua phased out but I did like how it added a dash of colour and "fun" to the otherwise quite bland desktop. Oh well I'm sure apple wouldnt make any changes without adding a load more silly decorations (Time Machine has to be the best example of crazily OTT ui!)
I wouldn't mind seeing aqua phased out but I did like how it added a dash of colour and "fun" to the otherwise quite bland desktop. Oh well I'm sure apple wouldnt make any changes without adding a load more silly decorations (Time Machine has to be the best example of crazily OTT ui!)
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It's an improvement over the blue bar. It's been around for a long time and hasn't changed a lot over the past few years.
Certainly not an earth shattering improvement, but it does provide more space in a window.
Looking forward to tomorrow. I hope it's live.
It's an improvement over the blue bar. It's been around for a long time and hasn't changed a lot over the past few years.
Certainly not an earth shattering improvement, but it does provide more space in a window.
Looking forward to tomorrow. I hope it's live.
Nope, they just get passed on to the end user in the form of having to buy a Windows license. This is exactly what we currently have to do to run emulators like Parallels.
This rumor is false. Apple are the UI kings. They know that this would never work. I will simply quote a post I did on the subject :
Anyone who claims they would like this probably don't even notice they use the scrollbars as visual cues all the time. It's become second nature.
Anyone who claims they would like this probably don't even notice they use the scrollbars as visual cues all the time. It's become second nature.
