Mac OS X Leopard Support Issues and Cool Features

[AndyR]

Don't think my upgrade has gone as smoothly as I thought. Although the upgrade itself went fine, today I've noticed that its not as snappy as I thought, in fact it seems a little sluggish.

I just rebooted and firefox took 14 bounces to come up?? When I go into coverflow view in finder its takes a while for all documents to get a thumbnail, slow enough that I've found the document I want long before its done the thumbnail.

Guess my only option is to erase the lot and start again 🙁

 

[tomd89]

Loving the mosiac screensaver, having to show it to everyone though is getting annoying lol

Overall i have mixed feelings about leopard, on one hand there are certain aspects that i'm finding i like which before just from the keynote demos, the video guides etc i thought i wouldn't, the new finder being the prime example, however i'm still looking for something to hit me and just go wow, something to justify all the hype, admittedly i'm not using TM at the moment, so when i do maybe that'll do it for me, or maybe one of the updates will bring something new.

And then there are things i do like alot about it, the new dock, stacks, mail being the ones to come to mind, how many people can say they have trouble seeing which apps are open amazes me to be honest

If you have trouble seeing that, i would recommend seeing a eye specialist, it's bright enough, if anything i find it to bright.

Well thats my opinion, i'm enjoying Leopard, but i'm still waiting for that knockout punch to bowl me over

Has the mail icon changed in leopard?

 

[damienvfx]

Has the mail icon changed in leopard?

no. It must be an option this user has.

As a side note, Firefox is still better than Safari 3. I really wanted tabbed browsing without using any hot keys. Oh well, there is always Safari 4 to look forward to...

 

[tattooedpierre]

I don't know if this is noteworthy, but I've found that I can now open Quartz Composition files directly in the Safari browser window.

So, for example, goto www.quartzcompositions.com and click on of the compositions and it'll show the (usually screensaver) effects in the browser window itself. You can then right-click to save the composition.

 

[koobcamuk]

I don't know if this is noteworthy, but I've found that I can now open Quartz Composition files directly in the Safari browser window.

So, for example, goto www.quartzcompositions.com and click on of the compositions and it'll show the (usually screensaver) effects in the browser window itself. You can then right-click to save the composition.

I don't entirely understand what you're getting at here - but if you explain more, I would love to try 🙂

 

[Darkroom]

Perhaps it did this before, and I just never noticed. iCal shows a a line for the current time of day. Handy to see if something is coming up!

PS - Is anyone else having trouble distinguishing their finder windows in Coverflow and iTunes? I keep getting frustrated when iTunes doesn't show what's on my desktop 🙂

i maybe alone on this one, but i find coverflow in finder completely counterproductive... it looks cool (if the icon has full res, which a lot are lacking), but it's much slower than actually seeing your file immediately from the list...

 

[slackpacker]

i maybe alone on this one, but i find coverflow in finder completely counterproductive... it looks cool (if the icon has full res, which a lot are lacking), but it's much slower than actually seeing your file immediately from the list...

For you it is .... its just another way to look at files.... just don't use it if you don't like it. Use the list... no complaints

 

[ataq]

quicktime can now autozoom with the on screen controls in fullscreen mode.


open a 4:3 movie in quicktime and stretch it clicking on panorama. it strechtes the video very nice.. dont know how to explain it in english, just check it out yourself!

 

[twoodcc]

cool stuff 🙂

gotta try out that new screensaver i guess

 

[tribulation]

I am guessing you installed leopard and are having a fine time with it then? have you noticed any of these bugs? what about random missing small features, just small ones like the movie playing in the dock sort of thing; or how the view options don't keep their settings consistently on a per-window basis [this is confirmed on the Apple support forums]? how about the graphics bugs that put lines all over the screen [also confirmed by many others on the Apple support forums, not just me] and is pretty severe. while not a bug, the stacks look pretty bad in the dock depending on what is inside of the folder/stack ----- most of the time they end up looking all jumbled up with icons overlapping in a not-so-good-way; also the hierarchal menus in the dock for folders is a huge blunder as far as i am concerned [again as are others as posted all over the net and apple's support forum]; and the menubar looks like it's permanently disabled, like a button would have been in previous OS X versions when a window wasn't in the foreground, it doesnt appeal to me at all, nor does the 3d dock. another dock 'what the?' is when you have it positioned on the left or right of the screen, and Stacks can't be viewed in the 'fan' style, only the grid ----- the fan format could have still worked but for some reason it just isn't an option.

MORE?
in the finder, you cant hide just the toolbar or just the sidebar. they go hand in hand, in tiger you could hide them separately. i dont use the sidebar because it takes up way too much window space, so I could slide it over all the way to the left in Tiger; NOT in leopard. you can only resize it down a bit but it is still there. The only way to hide it is by choosing 'hide toolbar' which obviously then hides the toolbar and the sidebar. but wait, i want the toolbar. it has nothing to do with the sidebar but for unknown reasons in leopard it is tied to the visibility option of both. for one that makes no sense; and it sucks and should have 2 separate options to hide them......................

smart folders, at least on my install are very limited and lack the other searchable attributes that were available even in Tiger. if you make one and try to add an attribute to search by and choose 'other', there is nothing there. that list was full in tiger..............

my 2 year old firewire drive has worked perfectly up until the 1st time i mounted it in leopard. i was copying a few files to it and the OS crashed [only had that happen probably 5 times the whole time i used Tiger]. but no kernel panic screen was shown, it just froze ---- btw does anyone know if there is even a kernel panic screen in leopard? because it just froze, after 10 minutes of sitting there hoping i did a hard restart. then, my FW drive would not mount. Disk Utility could not fix it and would only offer to reinitialize it! luckily I had DiskWarrior installed and it fixed it [the directory was all messed up, another gripe that Apple's Disk Utility can't do this common repair after all these years] --- once again, look on the apple forum and you'll find tons of similar reports of people who had their drives screwed up, with no option except to reformat it.

don't get me too wrong. Leopard does have some good things about it. but for the 1st time in my personal macintosh history, i feel that they released it to the public way way too far ahead of schedule to meet their deadline and think it has had some major consequences on the quality and polished expectations that apple is known for. And this is all from a newly erased, clean install of leopard.

there is really no way to refute the point that apple was behind schedule and didn't allow time to finish up as planned or adequately test Leopard because months ago, jobs showed off things like the customizable Stacks that didn't even come close to making it into the retail version. maybe the 'iphone taking resources away from OS X' was real enough to have actually caused this, i don't know. what i do know is that if it was even quickly tested on a mac pro with a radeon x1900 card, which is a very common configuration for pro users, the graphic glitches would have definitely been discovered as they are very noticeable and reproducible and widely reported. even apple phone support is now saying that they know of the problem and are working on it. that was just flat out irresponsible to release the OS with such glaring problems such as these when apple obviously knew that they existed.

i could go on for pages but i won't, because nobody will read it anyways 😱

i posted this to warn people that have not installed it yet to wait at least a couple weeks to see if apple fixes some of this mess. worst case, you might have big hard drive problems and data loss. best case, maybe you like it and get lucky

 

[EricNau]

For anyone who may be having a problem deleting your AOL mail from Mail.app in Leopard, like those of us in this thread, here's the solution:

Go to Mail.app > Preferences > Accounts > Mailbox behaviors, and uncheck "Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox."

Link

 

[irun5k]

That's because you have a dark background. Try that dock if you have a bright window or screen background reflecting on the dock. It's really not so easy to see then.

Thanks, I was going to say the same exact thing. I'm running with one of the slate gray abstract Apple backgrounds. My 13" Macbook screen obviously isn't huge. And the Macbook screen (unfortunately!) is completely glossy. So the dock doesn't need to be reflective, since we all already get a nice big reflection from the glossy screens that are pretty much standard now.

So after everything I mentioned above, you really can't see the little tiny blue light at all.

I guess what some peeps aren't understanding is that most of us would love to love Leopard. But we're not going to say we love it when in reality we know there are parts of it that make OS X more difficult for us to use on a daily basis.

 

[jabbiati]

Lost my AirPort

i did the Login and Keychain update on my PowerBook G4 and lost my airPort. By "lost" I mean that when I click on the AirPort icon in the menu bar, I just get a message saying that there is no wireless device installed.

I put the Leopard DVD back in and reinstalled 10.5. This put things back into working order. I guess I shouldn't do the update again.

Anyone know what happened and where my big mistake was?

Thanks.

Joe

 

[Steve Jobs=God]

did you change your Mail icon? mine is still the same one from 10.4... just wondering if you changed yours (which is think is much cooler than mine) or if that is the actual 10.5 Mail icon that for some reason didn't get installed on my mac.

Yeah i changed it, the standard mail icon is probably the worst icon on the entire OS imo

And before i took the screen capture the image my dock came from, i had a bright wallpaper, could still see the little lights perfectly fine

 

[shomama]

photobooth

by the way, i'm loving photobooth...it does video now!! finally. it also does this four shot photo thing, kinda cool, kinda cheesy.

 

[Eric Lewis]

by the way, i'm loving photobooth...it does video now!! finally. it also does this four shot photo thing, kinda cool, kinda cheesy.

Yeah i changed it, the standard mail icon is probably the worst icon on the entire OS imo

And before i took the screen capture the image my dock came from, i had a bright wallpaper, could still see the little lights perfectly fine

i did the Login and Keychain update on my PowerBook G4 and lost my airPort. By "lost" I mean that when I click on the AirPort icon in the menu bar, I just get a message saying that there is no wireless device installed.

I put the Leopard DVD back in and reinstalled 10.5. This put things back into working order. I guess I shouldn't do the update again.

Anyone know what happened and where my big mistake was?

Thanks.

Joe

Thanks, I was going to say the same exact thing. I'm running with one of the slate gray abstract Apple backgrounds. My 13" Macbook screen obviously isn't huge. And the Macbook screen (unfortunately!) is completely glossy. So the dock doesn't need to be reflective, since we all already get a nice big reflection from the glossy screens that are pretty much standard now.

So after everything I mentioned above, you really can't see the little tiny blue light at all.

I guess what some peeps aren't understanding is that most of us would love to love Leopard. But we're not going to say we love it when in reality we know there are parts of it that make OS X more difficult for us to use on a daily basis.

For anyone who may be having a problem deleting your AOL mail from Mail.app in Leopard, like those of us in this thread, here's the solution:

Go to Mail.app > Preferences > Accounts > Mailbox behaviors, and uncheck "Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox."

Link

LOL I wish 😀
I am guessing you installed leopard and are having a fine time with it then? have you noticed any of these bugs? what about random missing small features, just small ones like the movie playing in the dock sort of thing; or how the view options don't keep their settings consistently on a per-window basis [this is confirmed on the Apple support forums]? how about the graphics bugs that put lines all over the screen [also confirmed by many others on the Apple support forums, not just me] and is pretty severe. while not a bug, the stacks look pretty bad in the dock depending on what is inside of the folder/stack ----- most of the time they end up looking all jumbled up with icons overlapping in a not-so-good-way; also the hierarchal menus in the dock for folders is a huge blunder as far as i am concerned [again as are others as posted all over the net and apple's support forum]; and the menubar looks like it's permanently disabled, like a button would have been in previous OS X versions when a window wasn't in the foreground, it doesnt appeal to me at all, nor does the 3d dock. another dock 'what the?' is when you have it positioned on the left or right of the screen, and Stacks can't be viewed in the 'fan' style, only the grid ----- the fan format could have still worked but for some reason it just isn't an option.

MORE?
in the finder, you cant hide just the toolbar or just the sidebar. they go hand in hand, in tiger you could hide them separately. i dont use the sidebar because it takes up way too much window space, so I could slide it over all the way to the left in Tiger; NOT in leopard. you can only resize it down a bit but it is still there. The only way to hide it is by choosing 'hide toolbar' which obviously then hides the toolbar and the sidebar. but wait, i want the toolbar. it has nothing to do with the sidebar but for unknown reasons in leopard it is tied to the visibility option of both. for one that makes no sense; and it sucks and should have 2 separate options to hide them......................

smart folders, at least on my install are very limited and lack the other searchable attributes that were available even in Tiger. if you make one and try to add an attribute to search by and choose 'other', there is nothing there. that list was full in tiger..............

my 2 year old firewire drive has worked perfectly up until the 1st time i mounted it in leopard. i was copying a few files to it and the OS crashed [only had that happen probably 5 times the whole time i used Tiger]. but no kernel panic screen was shown, it just froze ---- btw does anyone know if there is even a kernel panic screen in leopard? because it just froze, after 10 minutes of sitting there hoping i did a hard restart. then, my FW drive would not mount. Disk Utility could not fix it and would only offer to reinitialize it! luckily I had DiskWarrior installed and it fixed it [the directory was all messed up, another gripe that Apple's Disk Utility can't do this common repair after all these years] --- once again, look on the apple forum and you'll find tons of similar reports of people who had their drives screwed up, with no option except to reformat it.

don't get me too wrong. Leopard does have some good things about it. but for the 1st time in my personal macintosh history, i feel that they released it to the public way way too far ahead of schedule to meet their deadline and think it has had some major consequences on the quality and polished expectations that apple is known for. And this is all from a newly erased, clean install of leopard.

there is really no way to refute the point that apple was behind schedule and didn't allow time to finish up as planned or adequately test Leopard because months ago, jobs showed off things like the customizable Stacks that didn't even come close to making it into the retail version. maybe the 'iphone taking resources away from OS X' was real enough to have actually caused this, i don't know. what i do know is that if it was even quickly tested on a mac pro with a radeon x1900 card, which is a very common configuration for pro users, the graphic glitches would have definitely been discovered as they are very noticeable and reproducible and widely reported. even apple phone support is now saying that they know of the problem and are working on it. that was just flat out irresponsible to release the OS with such glaring problems such as these when apple obviously knew that they existed.

i could go on for pages but i won't, because nobody will read it anyways 😱

i posted this to warn people that have not installed it yet to wait at least a couple weeks to see if apple fixes some of this mess. worst case, you might have big hard drive problems and data loss. best case, maybe you like it and get lucky

everything will work great after the first major 10.5.1

 

[jaw04005]

I am guessing you installed leopard and are having a fine time with it then? have you noticed any of these bugs?

I'm experiencing many of the same issues you touched on. However, I have hope that Apple will fix the bulk of our complaints with 10.5.1.

Be sure to file bugs using the feedback form, so Apple will know exactly which hardware these issues are occurring on.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html/

 

[slackpacker]

LOL I wish 😀
I am guessing you installed leopard and are having a fine time with it then?

Yes I am.

After having an issue with 3rd party software not working right (SuperDuper) I have had NO problems. Leopard imported all my info after a clean install and its smooth as silk.. I was back up and running in less than an hour if I just trusted it to begin with.

My drives all worked better than they did with 10.4.

I agree that Apple could have done more... not having options to turn off the butt ugly 3D Launch bar. Not Working with the Quicksilver developer who was hired by Google. I could go on but I won't.

But the facts are they did not and we got a great update to tour OS that for me works great and is faster... better and more feature rich than the last update.

I hope you get your issues fixed.... Just try a clean install onto a new drive then do a migration of all your data using the tool. Worked great for me.

 

[ksolano]

YouTube Mosaic

dont have my copy yet here in the UK & i wanna see this Mosaic NOW!!
someone put up a youtube vid plz.. Cheers

 

[currentinterest]

Leopard: No Problems

I've been using Leopard since Friday and have not had a single problem. It is faster and more fun than Tiger. My old drives work, my new drives work, my mail is much better and faster as well.

 

[matttrick]

i honestly dont see one single must have feature that makes me want to upgrade my MBP to leopard. i mean, its got some.... nifty things. but nothing i need, or want badly enough to shell out. from trying it at the apple store, the closest thing i can liken it to is an expansion pack to a video game.

 

[slackpacker]

Life of a sometimes windows user]

This is what I just had to do to run a new game - Crysis on my Vista PC.

#1. Download new awesome game demo

#2. Install beta Graphics Driver that is hidden away by Nvidia... go through validation.... Accept that its a beta driver that I'm installing

REBOOT

#3 Install game... at the end of which it say I need a Patch from Microsoft for
Vista... (why for the hell of it all is it not there already) I have D/L a validation program in order to get the update... copy the Validation number and then it gives me the Blessing that I can d/l the all coveted driver.

REBOOT

All just to install one program.... its the same every time...with windows. You guys think you have it so bad just give windows vista a try its FRUSTRATION all packed up in a shiny box.

 

[koobcamuk]

Safari isn't letting me see www.apple.com/jp - it says I am not connected to the internet!

 

[EricNau]

I'm not liking the new dictionary widget for two reasons:

First of all, now it takes two clicks to switch between dictionary and thesaurus, and secondly, I can no longer right-click in the text field to correct my spelling.

 

[tribulation]

Safari isn't letting me see www.apple.com/jp - it says I am not connected to the internet!

i have no idea why but ever since i installed leopard, i cant use wikipedia. i was even using the safari 3 beta in tiger before and it was fine. my connection hasn't changed and i havent had this problem ever before. but when i do a search on wikipedia or through the new dictionary using wikipedia, it says my connection is banned or unverified; says it can't verify my user agent. happens in firefox too.

heck i never even edit anything on wikipedia. i barely ever use it. no way i would be banned for doing something bad or something of the like. i thought it was my dsl provider, but now that you posted this i am thinking twice and wondering if there is more to it.

has anyone else had strange problems being blocked from any sites or weird internet problems? maybe it is just a coincidence. dont know