No Rosetta? Great. This means I can throw away a perfectly fine HP Scanner, in fact the best scanner I've ever had, which software relies on Rosetta. Very green of you, Apple. 
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I have already offered a solution to your dilemma and that is to partition your HDD. No requirement to new anything. Email the software companies to update they software to x86 if not x64 support, rather than complain about the lack of support on Lion. I have CanoScan and guess what I will be partition my HDD, and email Canon to get they behinds on track with Mac OS X.
No Rosetta? Great. This means I can throw away a perfectly fine HP Scanner, in fact the best scanner I've ever had, which software relies on Rosetta. Very green of you, Apple.
That thing looks like a disaster.
Or push the companies to actually develop their software correctly.
No Rosetta? Great. This means I can throw away a perfectly fine HP Scanner, in fact the best scanner I've ever had, which software relies on Rosetta. Very green of you, Apple.
The scanner will still work fine, you just need different software. You should e-mail HP.
I'm not saying I agree with Apple's decision, but 'out with the old' is inevitable with technological progress.
No Rosetta? Great. This means I can throw away a perfectly fine HP Scanner, in fact the best scanner I've ever had, which software relies on Rosetta. Very green of you, Apple.
Tried VueScan? http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_scanjet_4600.html
(I have no affiliation with Hamrick Software other than being a very satisfied user of the Professional Edition for over a decade. I never even bother installing OEM scanning software anymore; VueScan has always been better.)
VueScan works with Lide 80's, too.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I really don't want to have to buy Office again. Maybe I'll try to get by without it for awhile and see if I really need it. If I find that I don't, I'll be excited to upgrade to Lion. However, if I still need it I'll probably just stay put.
VueScan is a great piece of software that made an old Epson work with an iMac for me.
I have a 120GB SSD on my MBP, custom not BTO from
. Guess what SL with the bare minimum only takes less than 10 GB on that SSD. Lion I am hope will be under 10GB for a standard install. Nonetheless I use it as my boot drive with essential applications. I can get a 500GB+ HDD for cheaper and your point is rendered moot.Booting on the SSD takes less than 20 seconds, its far cheaper than buying another Mac to only run SL. As mentioned earlier you are not forced to upgrade to Lion.
People using old scanners really should learn about TWAIN drivers, and/or VueScan. You choose to keep using ten-year-old computer hardware, it's on you to keep it running. Not anyone else.
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I think Apple tends to cut gear loose at their earliest convenience but the blame here lies squarely on manufacturers.
However, Apple has to be aware that they are a second-tier manufacturer from the point of view of peripheral makers Windows rules the market. Manufacturers will always think twice about updating drivers and software for older models for Mac. So, I oppose the disposable appliances mentality this fosters. It's not mandatory to update to the newest OS but it's also difficult to get an older (legal) OS to install on a new computer if the old one stops breathing.
I understand Apple's reasons for doing this but do not agree with the decision from an ethical point of view.
No Rosetta? Great. This means I can throw away a perfectly fine HP Scanner, in fact the best scanner I've ever had, which software relies on Rosetta. Very green of you, Apple.
Riiiiiight. And HP, as the manufacturer of the scanner, has zero responsibility to update drivers to keep up with current systems. Who's being greedy here Apple for wanting to use its limited human resources to improve the current system rather than to support legacy software and drivers or HP for effectively forcing you to buy another scanner b/c they don't update their own drivers?
HP's Mac support is abysmal. If you have a gripe they are the ones to contact here. It's no state secret that PPC had one foot out the door. Now Apple is finally burying it after how many years notice? C'mon. You have no beef w/ Apple.
Moreover, Apple is not forcing you to move to Lion. Stick w/ SL if you like. I doubt any immediate s/w releases are going to require Lion.
Why miss it? Get an emulator and pull out your old OS discs. I still play SimCity and Another Fine Mess, for example, regularly.
Never heard of legacy software then?
I'm sorry, but this is just beyond stupid for Apple to do this. My old games and programs won't work on their new OS, and yet the very same games and programs will work perfectly on Windows 7?
Forget it Apple.
That's not at all how it works. It does not make development "easier" and there is no "overhead". In 10.6, if you don't use any PPC apps, then Rosetta isn't even installed. Even if you do have PPC apps, Rosetta does nothing unless you launch one. Repeat: no overhead, removing it doesn't help anyone. It's just a CPU emulator, it's nothing like Classic, which is a whole different OS and environment, which had to be somehow integrated into OS X.
--Eric
Apple doesn't need to provide support for your old equipment or software. You don't need to upgrade. The developers of that software, however, should be the ones providing support and being greedy and unethical by not providing you the support you deserve.
I have plenty of legacy software that I found new software that replaced it. You can't stick with the same old software forever. It never happens. Not Apple's fault that you refuse to update your software or push the developer to update the software. Apple is doing what it can and should do.
Rosetta is not a "wrapper around PPC calls". It is a translator that translates PowerPC code to x86 code. Once the code is translated, it is exactly the same as x86 code. There is no obvious reason to me why this x86 code shouldn't run just fine on Lion.
And I am not happy to have to pay for a new version of Office. Office 2004 works just fine for me.
That is idiotic. Upgrading applications costs money. In my case, there is one application that I would have liked to about ages ago, but I never found a suitable replacement. So I am losing it. Then there is Office 2004 which works just fine, and in the safe knowledge that Microsoft software gets more and more bloated with every year, this is without doubt the best version of Office that will ever be released. So upgrading it not only costs money but will get software that is worse than what I have now. There comes the point where the cost of Lion is just too high.
Rosetta is a translator that translates PowerPC code to x86 code. The translated code is exactly as buggy or not buggy and exactly as secure or insecure as any other code written at the same time. If there are any unfixed bugs in Rosetta left then nobody has found them, so they don't need fixing. And a very easy way to not support Rosetta is to make it officially unsupported.
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No overhead? Wrong. So very wrong. Removing it is the first step towards not having to support it ("support" including coding security and bug fixes). Support is a whole lotta overhead. No offense, but you're clearly out of your subject area here.
Why can't an OS run Lion, Rosetta, and Classic? Even partial versions would be ok, perhaps partitioning? I find it hard to believe Apple is incapable of doing this, in fact, I find it to be a downright lie.
You're kidding, right?