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This isn't surprising.

• The OS was said to be "nothing new" and just retooled for 64 bit
• It makes money

An early 2009 release of OSX 10.6 would benefit everyone--users and producer.
 
At the Macworld Keynote, I would like to see Steve Jobs show how fast a new version of Handbrake optimized for Snow Leopard is with a Mac Pro and one of his old Pixar films.

I wonder if the iWork and iLife packages are going to be snowed versions too?
 
I did not bother to read all the posts.... But, this would be cool if this date was somewhat accurate. Of course Q1 means anywhere from January to April 1st. Like one person pointed out, we will probably hear alot at macworld and then a release in March timeframe. WWDC would be late as that would be in Q2 - although if they push back to work out as many bugs as possible, I would not mind.

Seeing this makes me want to hold off anymore software purchases, or just not upgrade (will have to see at release and I hear what others have to say). I just wonder how much of my apps will break. I bought my macbook in april, and since that time 98% of my apps are now native mac apps. There are only a couple left running under windows. My total platform change has cost me over $3,000 (between the macbook, software purchases, buy a 19-inch monitor, 7 port USB hub, etc). money is a little tight right now to have to re-buy alot of software or upgrade versions.

hmm.. I wonder - Can anyone answer me this, I never tried it - but it should work (I would think -unless there are some real screwy things under the hood):

if I was to upgrade and get the latest Parallels or VMWARE - should I not be able to have a Windows installation on a virtual machine, and then also setup another Virtual machine to run my existing Leopard? Of course I would probably have to do a memory upgrade to run both Virtuals simultaneously.

that would work for me, because then I could SLOWLY upgrade my software as money permits.​

*Edit - One other thing, I hope with the smaller OS, they do not strip out what makes a Unix/Linux OS so great - Java, CPP, Python, TCL, and all the other INCLUDED programming languages. It would stink if it became a MS like OS, where we started to have to buy or find open source versions to download. I am hoping in my spare time (what little I have) to start writing my own apps for the mac. Church related software for the mac seems to be very much lacking right now.
 
what's interesting about this is...

That the code name "Snow Leopard" is absent. I would suspect that this is a very early slide that was made before the announcement of 10.6 and that this date is very pre-mature. I'm betting this is all wrong and it's still going to be mid to late 09.
 
The time-frame of 14+ months and Q1 2009 is in both slide 5 and 6.

Slide 1: Front slide
Slide 2: Who Hubbert is
Slide 3: What Hubbert does
Slide 4: "Let's start with a quick history"
Slide 5: Mac OS X Releases
Slide 6: Mac OS X Releases (excluding 10.4 Tiger /x86).

It might have been an old slide. Might have been that putting "Snow Leopard" in would have made the Snow Lopard row 2 rows thick, making it less pleasing to the eye.

Still - it's his first 2 proper slides - surely he'd be most likely to (re-)check the dates he's giving out of an as-yet unreleased OS - if he didn't he be getting one painful phonecall from Cupertino, no? We'd know more if there were older talks by him that used that slide including 10.6 release date.

MWSF only 47 days away anyhow (assuming the start of MWSF, 5th January will have the Keynote speech).
 
If Snow Leopard arrives this early, I really hope it's really stable. I don't want a repeat of Leopard when it first came out.

One thing I'm kinda excited to see is how much snappier Snow Leopard will be compared to Leopard on the same computer. One thing I've wondered for a while is how efficient is software?
 
Did anyone notice that in the slides he has a screenshot of something downloaded from macrumors?? :)

See page 21.
 
Your post is somewhat ranty to be quite honest.

It was a necessary rant because none of what you said was in the remotest bit valid. Mac OS X has limitations, but to make the claims as as you did is a big stretch.

Read what you wrote. If someone transitions to an all Mac environment, and subsequently get bespoke apps written for said OS, which quite a few companies I know of do, then they are tied not only to Mac OSX, but also to the Mac hardware. At least running Linux or Windows for example, the IT dept have choices over different forks of upgradability, software and or hardware. They also get to choose where to source the hardware from and what software licensing strategy suits their business.

Again, when are we going to see Linux (or a some other operating system) become a valid alternative? Its either Windows or Mac OS X - Linux isn't even on the radar. To claim you have choice is like the spam skit off Monty python.

Mac OSX isn't the be all and end all OS you seem to think it is, every OS has its place and purpose, hence why they each have a slice of market share.

Never said it was the be-all and end-all. If you are going to make a statement, back it up with facts. If you said that Mac OS X scales poorly, I'd agree. But when you said that deployment was difficult and yet ignore NetBoot/NetRestore, I really question the validity of your whole argument.
 
That would be awesome! I guess they are doing this to compete with Windows 7... Hopefully there is enough to be thrilled about cause Windows 7 is a huge update!

Is it? All I've seen so far is yet another photo viewer and a lame touch-screen implementation. What else will make up the Windows 7 update?
 
Man, I just installed 10.5 a month ago. Pffft.

I decided a couple of months ago to wait for Snow, so while yes you paid $129 and quite possibly will have to pay another $129 in March if you want to upgrade at least you have Leopard now. I have Tiger and no Plex. :(
Snow please come out soon!
 
It'll probably be just another preview of Snow Leopard at Macworld. They'll give a less-vague release date than 'within a year'. Then they'll have to push that date back one or two times before it's actually released.

Final release date: July 27, 2009
 
That would be awesome! I guess they are doing this to compete with Windows 7... Hopefully there is enough to be thrilled about cause Windows 7 is a huge update! Wonder if we are going to see 10.5.6 to 10.5.9 in the next coming months!

If they really release it in Q1/2009 Windows 7 will be rather competing with 10.7 than 10.6 if they keep up with this release schedule.
 
It's a MacRumors tradition that we see the absolute worst in every rumor, so before anyone else gets there...

It may not be cheap. It may not run on PPC processor machines. Like Leopard, it might be fragile on release. It may mess with your apps and your setup, it may be disappointing to many and it may just be late.

OK, we've got that out of the way. ;)

You forgot:

  • It will be x64-only, and won't run on Core Duo and Core Solo Apples!
 
Timeline?

Who created that timeline? Mac OS 10.1 came out in late September/early October 2001, NOT in November. It was about a six month difference when Mac OS 10.0 and Mac OS 10.1 were released. After that, each new version took a little longer to release.
 
I was hoping Snow Leopard would come out in less than a year.
There are not supposed to be any new features, just improvements in the OS itself.

I am looking forward to QuickTime X.

“Grand Central” is the feature I am really looking forward to.
From Apple's web site, "Grand Central takes full advantage by making all of Mac OS X multicore aware and optimizing it for allocating tasks across multiple cores and processors. Grand Central also makes it much easier for developers to create programs that squeeze every last drop of power from multicore systems."

Add to that 64-bit technology.

Snow Leopard should turn my already powerful Mac Pro into a number crunching monster!
 
bets on, how much you willing to lose?

... but I bet big money on it that M$ will not have a leaner, more capable OS that resembles Vista (from a UI perspective)...

Read this and weep ;)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10082909-56.html

While the new Windows [7] will enable high-end machines with multitouch, it will also work on low-end machines. While Vista has largely been absent in the fast-growing Netbook category, Windows 7 is aimed to work well on such low-end devices--a number of which are on display at WinHEC.

Among the machines Microsoft showed was an Eee PC with a 1GB [RAM] and a 16GB solid-state drive, which the software maker said could run Windows 7 with "room to spare."
 
That the code name "Snow Leopard" is absent. I would suspect that this is a very early slide that was made before the announcement of 10.6 and that this date is very pre-mature. I'm betting this is all wrong and it's still going to be mid to late 09.

No, "Snow Leopard" is there, but it's invisible.

Try cutting and pasting from the blank area :)
 
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