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Mac Users Reporting Widespread System Freezes With OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 Update
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Only way to get Apple`s attention is to vote with your $$$$ as that`s all Apple cares about these days. Given Apple is down 40% on Mac sales over the last quarter they may feel motivated to do something, equally no doubt the Mac & OS X will be far from the top of the list. Personally I just expect "thiner & lighter" another bug ridden release of OS X, colour options, all wrapped up in more hyperbole, superlatives & hubris than you can possibly stomach....
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I am running the same hardware/software combination without any lock ups. I quess I need a definition of the term 'widespread". Does that mean 51%?
Neither have I.
Don't, however, mistake that as a defense of El Capitan. I think it's amongst the worst releases of OS X Apple has ever put out. It may not crash on me, but I have a laundry list of complaints that Apple doesn't appear to be interested in addressing, their lousy, slow, buggy-as-hell SMB implementation being at the top of the list.
That's what I did - I abandoned the Mac, because Mac abandoned me. I have a nice Tower PC that is built the way I want it with the GPUs I need for my development work, and video editing -- and a Surface Book for mobile tasks. Don't get me wrong, the Surface Book has its problems (mostly sleep related), but what is shocking to me is how good the PC has gotten in the past few years. It has become (for me) a viable alternative to Mac, which I would have been shocked to believe could have come from my mouth a few years ago.
It doesn't make sense if taken too literally, but it's still true. The evidence in software quality coming out of Apple would suggest that they've downsized/downgraded the OS teams in order to spend that headcount budget on the car teams and people working on cosmetic nonsense.
Hmm... well, maybe phrased pretty poorly on my part. Look, if freezing issues keep persisting and everything checks out hardware wise, software wise, and after reformatting, there's not much left to do really. The person's complaining, getting everybody involved, saying you're fobbing them off -- and you don't have a fix, so you gotta go for a precautionary repair based on the issue. And such problems as these (freezing/shutting completely off) historically indicate a MLB failure; I'm sure you'd agree that this sort of problem isn't frequently caused by software.
And 'just wait a few days'? 10.11.4 was released on March 21st this year. Of course I'm not sure if it's a recent security update on 10.11.4 that has been causing the problems, but still, it's not as simple as that.
Finally I don't much fancy sculpting a "just ride it out, and I'll wait a few months to see if Apple have any ideas" response to a complaint. It's not ideal; I guess in this example I have egg on my face. Not so much with the 15/17" 2011s way back when.
Hope this clears things up
What is that Menu Bar Stats Monitor?? I wants it. Smiegel needses it!
Video by MacRumors forum member appleofmy"i" experiencing the freeze issue.
Article Link: Mac Users Reporting Widespread System Freezes With OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 Update
Late 2011 MBP, no lockups or problems like this. Of course, the 2011 has it's own set of problems unrelated to OSX.
Just a step behind you, have been trialling a Windows 10 system, it has yet to present any issue. Gave up on El Capitan at 10.11.3 as it was doing little more than wasting my time. Another fact is Apple`s hardware is stagnating or fast becoming a fashion statement.
Willing to hold on until WWDC, equally am looking at Windows portables, as I strongly suspect all WWDC will deliver is a bunch of old guys exaggeratingly proclaiming the awesomeness, over what is basically just mediocre product.
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I'd be stunned if they had downsized the OS teams and put them onto this. A few senior devs/thought leaders might have swapped teams but generally the numbers should be the same. At the end of the day, this car should run some fork of iOS/OSX, but if we are looking at ~3 years to launch this donkey, there shouldn't be a significant amount of dev going on at this point!
Plus, isn't that what they hired all of Tesla's old staff for?
Time for Apple to update its advertising, esp the part that starts at 0:16
I have the latest MBP 13" and have had complete system freezes since El Crapitan release. I have tried PRAM reset, cache clean-up, clean installs, and praying. Nothing works. MBP freezes from once a week to several a week. I was on the beta then switched back and still it freezes. Seems to happen more often with Youtube videos but not all the time....
I tried the Safari tech preview and still it freezes...
I've been a long Apple customer and have always had confidence in the Apple brand...however, lately I feel that Apple has lost its focus. Apple seems to be suffering from an identity crisis. Are they a consumer/Pro computer company? A cell phone company? Software company? Internet Service company? Watchmaker? Car maker? Music curator? Entertainment hub? Trend setter? Socially responsible public relations company? Retailer? Online merchant? App Store? Medical research? Fitness instructor? Photography studio? Movie studio?
In my opinion Apple is trying to be many things to many people...A jack of all trades, master of none.
I tried the Safari tech preview and still it freezes...
I've been a long Apple customer and have always had confidence in the Apple brand...however, lately I feel that Apple has lost its focus. Apple seems to be suffering from an identity crisis. Are they a consumer/Pro computer company? A cell phone company? Software company? Internet Service company? Watchmaker? Car maker? Music curator? Entertainment hub? Trend setter? Socially responsible public relations company? Retailer? Online merchant? App Store? Medical research? Fitness instructor? Photography studio? Movie studio?
In my opinion Apple is trying to be many things to many people...A jack of all trades, master of none.
A large number of MacBook Pro owners running OS X El Capitan are reporting widespread system freezes since installing the 10.11.4 update to Apple's Mac OS.
Hundreds of MacRumors forum members have been posting to a dedicated thread to discuss the issue, which spans 20 pages at the time of writing. The problem appears to be concentrated on 13-inch Retina MacBook Pros (Early 2015) running 10.11.4. Users report that their system becomes totally unresponsive at seemingly random times, with no way to regain access to their Mac other than to force a hard reboot.
The issue was initially reported by MacRumors forum member Antonnn on March 25, four days after Apple released what is the third update to the Mac OS. In Antonnn's case, the freezes have been occurring "about once a week", first when browsing in Safari, but then also during the use of other Mac apps, including Adobe Photoshop and several third-party browsers. The freeze seems to affect not only the screen and mouse cursor but also the Mac's Force Touch trackpad, which completely loses feedback.
Many other users have since reported similar freezes after updating to 10.11.4, with some 15-inch MacBook Pro (Mid 2015) owners also experiencing issues. One potential cause has been identified from crash logs as a system framework or an Intel Graphics driver bug. The issue is also being reported after installing Safari Technology Preview Version 1 and OS X 10.11.5 Public Beta 1.
Video by MacRumors forum member appleofmy"i" experiencing the freeze issue.
Apple Support is apparently aware of the issue but have so far offered no concrete solution. Meanwhile, some users have resorted to downgrading their system to 10.11.3 by restoring from a Time Machine backup or performing a clean install.
We'll update this post throughout the day as we learn more.
Article Link: Mac Users Reporting Widespread System Freezes With OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 Update
Oh, it will be something that needs "reimagining".
thank your for trying to help me but I don't install adobe software on "production systems" of that kind
Unlike Microsoft, Apple has to support a fairly limited range of devices (and those all designed by itself) and yet it still fails to make sure that the OS works properly. Is it too much to hope, now iPhone sales are falling, that Apple will finally put a bit of effort into the Mac? After about 25 years as a Mac-user, I am becoming a little disillusioned. We have an emasculated Mac Mini, a Mac Pro in the shape of a wastepaper bin and iMacs which sacrifice speed and expandability to thinness.
This oughta be a lesson to all that just jumped right in and installed the update without waiting a month.
Rule Number 1:
NEVER EVER EVER INSTALL APPLE OS UPDATES UNTIL THE SMOKE HAS SETTLED.
That advice has been valid with Mac OS updates for 20 years.
But all caps on a forum isn't going to prevent people from repeating the same mistake over and over again.
Don't Do It!
Rule Number 1:
NEVER EVER EVER INSTALL APPLE OS UPDATES UNTIL THE SMOKE HAS SETTLED.
That advice has been valid with Mac OS updates for 20 years.
But all caps on a forum isn't going to prevent people from repeating the same mistake over and over again.
Don't Do It!
Actually you are right. If you have not had issues with the new beta that's a good thing
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