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MacBook Pro 2011 predictions
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macbook air "future of macbook" heres my theory
1- i predict it will be here anytime from jan 31- feb 28th
2- yes, macbook air will lend features to macbook/ macbook pro
3- 13" mbp will remain, 13" white macbook, possibly, perhaps price drop.
4- macbook pro WILL KEEP the optical drive for the time being, the world, consumers, industries, music companies etc are not ready for not having one. we still use it, yes not often but depends on who you ask. Possibly it could be a BTO option to have it excluded, but i dont even think this/ To have orders coming to requesting more or less batteries for /not for a optical drive is too much to worry bout, not simple ( which is apples way), etc.. in this case, mbp i say will have the drive still. anyway, much easier to add ram blades or chips than batteries and drives. .. enough said
5- Flash storage, pretty much very certain, I see a imac like feature where the osx and apps are on ssd, while paired with a normal hdd. The air peaks at 256GB of flash, perhaps a BTO will be to have all flash maxed at 256. But either way, flash storage will appear.
6- AMD/ better gpu.. yes, 15 & 17" mbp will have a discrete better gpu, like each refresh. 13" , likely just sandy bridge chip which includes gpu on board. hopefully even a 1GB v-ram chip BTO.
7- slimmer design, perhaps, wouldnt be surprised, but also not end of the world if not. depends on ethernet port, optical drive perhaps. Also, the front could at least be rounded up and not as boxy wall like in front.
8- Sandy Bridge chips.. yes.. , 13"mbp away from C2D, yess.
9- light peak .. no
10- usb 3.. no
11- More BTO options, custom features available, and not be stuck to buy high end 15" mbp just for the 512mb vram chip/
1- i predict it will be here anytime from jan 31- feb 28th
2- yes, macbook air will lend features to macbook/ macbook pro
3- 13" mbp will remain, 13" white macbook, possibly, perhaps price drop.
4- macbook pro WILL KEEP the optical drive for the time being, the world, consumers, industries, music companies etc are not ready for not having one. we still use it, yes not often but depends on who you ask. Possibly it could be a BTO option to have it excluded, but i dont even think this/ To have orders coming to requesting more or less batteries for /not for a optical drive is too much to worry bout, not simple ( which is apples way), etc.. in this case, mbp i say will have the drive still. anyway, much easier to add ram blades or chips than batteries and drives. .. enough said
5- Flash storage, pretty much very certain, I see a imac like feature where the osx and apps are on ssd, while paired with a normal hdd. The air peaks at 256GB of flash, perhaps a BTO will be to have all flash maxed at 256. But either way, flash storage will appear.
6- AMD/ better gpu.. yes, 15 & 17" mbp will have a discrete better gpu, like each refresh. 13" , likely just sandy bridge chip which includes gpu on board. hopefully even a 1GB v-ram chip BTO.
7- slimmer design, perhaps, wouldnt be surprised, but also not end of the world if not. depends on ethernet port, optical drive perhaps. Also, the front could at least be rounded up and not as boxy wall like in front.
8- Sandy Bridge chips.. yes.. , 13"mbp away from C2D, yess.
9- light peak .. no
10- usb 3.. no
11- More BTO options, custom features available, and not be stuck to buy high end 15" mbp just for the 512mb vram chip/
OD is crap
Most people download the stuff using torrents, or buy licensed from iTunes.
They use OD very rarely. They don't need to carry around extra weight.
Also, OD eats a lot of space, which can be used for QuadCore Sandy Bridge or powerful GPU.
If we will have the OD, we will not have the point 6:
If Apple will drop the OD, more people will buy from iTunes;
there are a lot of people who buy pirated disks from underground stores.
Thus, Apple will receive even more money.
So, both Apple and customers will receive benefit:
Apple:
More money from iTunes
Drop the outdated technology
Customers:
Less weight to carry around
QuadCore Sandy Bridge / Powerful GPU
Most people download the stuff using torrents, or buy licensed from iTunes.
They use OD very rarely. They don't need to carry around extra weight.
Also, OD eats a lot of space, which can be used for QuadCore Sandy Bridge or powerful GPU.
If we will have the OD, we will not have the point 6:
If Apple will drop the OD, more people will buy from iTunes;
there are a lot of people who buy pirated disks from underground stores.
Thus, Apple will receive even more money.
So, both Apple and customers will receive benefit:
Apple:
More money from iTunes Drop the outdated technologyCustomers:
Less weight to carry around QuadCore Sandy Bridge / Powerful GPU
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I'd be down for a 17" MacBook Air. But I think I'm weird in that.
Uh...yeah you can.
I don't understand people's confidence in that, especially when they only site "It's their best selling model", which has about as much weight to it as a piece of paper, if not a feather.
Same, though I might wait until Lion comes pre-loaded and on my Restore DVDs.
Source on that percentage, please.
+1
Ever heard of external DVD drive? The ODD is the most useless part in a computer. People who need the drive for professional purposes are better off with external since they are much faster. How many people really watch DVDs on their laptop? I bet not that many, TVs are for that.
The ODD is almost as big as the whole logic board, it literally takes 1/4 of the whole 13" MBP!
That's wasted space for the big number of people who don't use it regularly. So much could be put in that space; SSD, discrete GPU, bigger battery... I'm not saying it will be removed but I'm hoping that it will be.
I definitely watch DVDs on my laptop and know several who also do. Also, if the 13" MacBook Pro is a big hit on college campuses, I know several people who watch DVDs on their laptops and in their dorms. Definitely a common thing to do there.
+1
Are you in sales or somthing? Otherwise how can you make any claims on sales?
Yin said:
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2010/2010120703_Intel_discontinues_Core_2_mobile_CPUs.html
Can be ordered till April 29 (one could order 2 gazillion C2Ds)
Will be shipped till October 14.
Can be stockpiled.
The Optical drive is still necessary for the Pros mainly due to the huge software Pro users use. I don't know about you, but I'm definitely not downloading either Final Cut or Logic Pro software over the internet. We just don't have the bandwidth to handle such a load. For any one of those, it takes over 3 hours, as is, just to install the software directly from the disk. I'd rather not turn that into a good part of a week.
yes. you are right. i was not well informed when i posted this. but this post was written 2 month ago.
Get an external drive!! How many people install software while on the go? External optical drives are still available for those who need it..
I still can't understand why there are still people who are so hooked up about having a built in OD on their laptops.. if you need an OD. carry along an external OD. Don't waste precious weight and space on the laptop that can be used for more useful stuff like a bigger battery, SSD/HDD combi, a discrete graphic for the 13"..
It is time to move on..
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Unfortunatly, I think you're right with Light Peak and USB 3.0. I think we'll get USB 3.0 when Intel adopts it and Light Peak when it's off the copper.
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Unfortunatly, I think you're right with Light Peak and USB 3.0. I think we'll get USB 3.0 when Intel adopts it and Light Peak when it's off the copper.
tbh i personally dont give a ****** about optical drive,i rarely use it, but other people need it, and an external isnt easy to carry around, especially if you have an ssd in your laptop (ergo you need an external hdd too).
so basically all the portability you gain by buying a macbook, you lose it with the external hdd and external optical drive... doesn't sound right!
I'm suddenly hoping that Apple hurry up and make a huge iPad. That way, all the people moaning about how the MBPs are too heavy, and need to be made thinner and lighter, can just get one of them.
Then, Apple can actually make the MBPs actually for professional work, instead of just an aluminium block with a panel of fancy lights.
Then, Apple can actually make the MBPs actually for professional work, instead of just an aluminium block with a panel of fancy lights.
I doubt the Optical drive will go but it requires a lot of space for something that isn't used a lot. I would miss it when I needed to use a CD but that is a rare occurrence. Considering what could be there in its place does make it look rather worthless.
Upgrading it to a blu-ray player would be welcomed though.
Upgrading it to a blu-ray player would be welcomed though.
+1
They did it with the MBA, why not with the MBP ?
If I go for the MBA I will get an external drive to go with it. I need it to rip my own DVDs to compress them end put them in my ipod.
Besides, how much time and battery power is used for the OD ?
I have never owned a mac, but on my Dell I can hear how the OD actually does some mechanic sounds (maybe to check if there is a disc inserted ?) every time I boot the computer. Maybe that doesn't use that much power, but at least it must slow down the boot speed.
And as stated elsewhere, it would encourage/force people to use App store more.
Oh, one more thing. Even if they keep the OD I hope the restore will be a USB stick as for the MBA. It just feels better.
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So, I guess will agree to dissolve all parts of mbp and carry them separately!
Hdd, additional ports, card readers etc.
Laptop of such price, should be a compact thing that contains all the things a professional need.
It is ridiculous to depend on other machines drives because a 2k dollars machine do not have one!
You cannot force everybody to download dozens of gb for adobe suite or final cut pro!
You cannot force them to giveaway usb flash disks who costs some dollars when dvd disks cost pennies!
You cannot forbid somebody to watch a dvd-movie on his mbp when he is on travel!
Optical drive should remain because so many people need it and they should not be forced to buy external ones or carry additional peripherals.
Optical drive is one of the things that distinguish mbp from mba and other....netbooks, as a professional machine.
We need a real laptop full of features and capabilities, more than the existing models(some speak of bluray), not starting abstracting things and convert mbp to a plain netbook.
By comparison, it could be said that your forcing us whom don't use the optical drive to go without discrete graphics or 3-4 extra hours of battery. Different people have different needs. But I digress.
discrete graphics dont fit in the 13" unless they add a 2nd fan (unlikely).
and yea if you don't want an optical drive get a netbook (macbook air or other)
I'm talking about 13", because it is the only one that has to drop the ODD in my opinion.
Who says MBPs are for professionals? Even if they were, professional would need good GPU, which can't happen unless they drop the ODD.
It's ridiculous that 2k machine doesn't have discrete GPU.
Buy an external drive.
I agree that usbsticks aren't cheap enough to replace DVDs, for huge programs atleast, but you can still buy an external drive.
No one is forbidding no one. You have multiple choices. Buy an external drive (that is smaller than one DVD case, shouldn't be a problem if you already carry the DVDs with you), buy your movies from iTunes or rip your movies through that external drive to your computer. You shouldn't try to forbid people from having more powerful laptop, because some people want to carry all their DVDs with them, but not one small external drive.
Optical Drive should go, beucase so many people need better GPU as an example. MBPs are not machines made for professionals.
Who says MBPs are for professionals? Even if they were, professional would need good GPU, which can't happen unless they drop the ODD.
It's ridiculous that 2k machine doesn't have discrete GPU.
Buy an external drive.
I agree that usbsticks aren't cheap enough to replace DVDs, for huge programs atleast, but you can still buy an external drive.
No one is forbidding no one. You have multiple choices. Buy an external drive (that is smaller than one DVD case, shouldn't be a problem if you already carry the DVDs with you), buy your movies from iTunes or rip your movies through that external drive to your computer. You shouldn't try to forbid people from having more powerful laptop, because some people want to carry all their DVDs with them, but not one small external drive.
Optical Drive should go, beucase so many people need better GPU as an example. MBPs are not machines made for professionals.
It's not about not wanting optical drive, but wanting something better to replace it.
Nonsense. We still use the processor, the customization, the screen size, and like the price point. To say that the point of a notebook over a netbook is an optical drive is insane, especially in today's day and age. How about I refer back to my original post when I said that I wish the optical drive was a BTO? Or at least, to go sans one for upgraded battery / a second drive. Everyone's happy.
Vaio Z has quad SSD Raid system
Apple should the very least offer this in its MBP 17"
I would love this line up:
MacBook Pro 13: 2X SSD Raid 0 4GB RAM
MacBook Pro 15: 4X SSD Raid 0 4GB RAM
Yes, they can!! Sand Force is a dream but
who knows..?
Optical Drive: possibly removed from the 13"? Hybrid drive system
like iMac? Very very possible. A 256GB SSD + 1 TB HDD is no
longer a dream in a laptop
Processor: Sandy Bridge or AMD Fusion, either way is fine.
We all know SSD is the more significant upgrade
USB 3.0: some peripherals are ready. WD has a USB 3.0 HDD
Super Talent has USB 3.0 thumb drive. Highly unlikely since
Apple prefers LightPeak. ::Sigh::
Graphic Cards: Should be substantial in 15" & 17". Dedicated or bust!
13" will have Intel new integrated chip. I don't care about gaming on laptop
Apple should put state of the art dedicated graphic card in their iMac or
even a boost-up Mac Mini. Mac Mini has a lot of potential in becoming
a multimedia powerhouse.
Blu-Ray: wake up, folks
3G Wireless card: They should put this in the Airs, at least
(but it will kill the iPad...). Can't have everything....
USB & SD Card slots on the right side + FaceTime camera
Apple should the very least offer this in its MBP 17"
I would love this line up:
MacBook Pro 13: 2X SSD Raid 0 4GB RAM
MacBook Pro 15: 4X SSD Raid 0 4GB RAM
Yes, they can!! Sand Force is a dream but
who knows..?
Optical Drive: possibly removed from the 13"? Hybrid drive system
like iMac? Very very possible. A 256GB SSD + 1 TB HDD is no
longer a dream in a laptop
Processor: Sandy Bridge or AMD Fusion, either way is fine.
We all know SSD is the more significant upgrade
USB 3.0: some peripherals are ready. WD has a USB 3.0 HDD
Super Talent has USB 3.0 thumb drive. Highly unlikely since
Apple prefers LightPeak. ::Sigh::
Graphic Cards: Should be substantial in 15" & 17". Dedicated or bust!
13" will have Intel new integrated chip. I don't care about gaming on laptop
Apple should put state of the art dedicated graphic card in their iMac or
even a boost-up Mac Mini. Mac Mini has a lot of potential in becoming
a multimedia powerhouse.
Blu-Ray: wake up, folks
3G Wireless card: They should put this in the Airs, at least
(but it will kill the iPad...). Can't have everything....
USB & SD Card slots on the right side + FaceTime camera
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Yes, indeed it is way beyond most people's affordability range for a laptop.
But, do you really think that Apple cares?
Egalitarianism and real accessibility to the masses do not go hand in hand with their particular brand of techno-cult-elitism.
I mean, I own a mac, and really like apple products for many reasons - but not for the premium price and the fashionable social niche image.
Apple wants to make money. I bet twice as many (probably even more) people would buy the 15" mbp if the price was reasonable. win win for everyone.
I'm not directing this at you but I don't understand why some people actually want apple to be expensive so it becomes more exclusive and "cool" to have. I've even witnessed a few macrumors members mention that they wish macbook pros were more expensive so less people would be able to afford them. Insanity...