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Just for a comparison, my G4 1.67ghz 1gb ram, boot time to the login screen is 45 seconds, the time from power button to when the screen first lights up (white apple screen) is 22 seconds.

On a side note, count me in on one of these when VPC is supported!! I definitely do NOT want windows running side by side with OS X, I like windows to be in its own little "jail cell" lol
 
guffman said:
I have a 1.67, and I just tested my boot time: 1:21.....
That seems way too long...
dibble9012 said:
Just for a comparison, my G4 1.67ghz 1gb ram, boot time to the login screen is 45 seconds, the time from power button to when the screen first lights up (white apple screen) is 22 seconds.
Mine boots to the white Apple logo screen at 12sec, MacOSX starting bar at 30sec, and desktop /menubar appears a few seconds later.
 
im not sure if the ram helped or not, but with a 1.67 and 2 gigs of ram, it takes 16s to get to the grey apple logo, 36 to get to the mac os x boot screen, and 46s to the desktop with all menu buttons loaded.
 
...and if you need a new mobo....

Laser47 said:
Well, there goes the "It has a removable CPU" theory. That sucks.
Also sucks for repair jobs - the Centrino laptops that we have all have socketed CPUs. We can keep one spare mobo in stock, and replace 4 or 5 different speed systems (since the CPU is unplugged from the old socket and inserted into the ZIF socket on the replacement).

Maybe that's just the "Apple Tax" for a thin system - although some of our laptops are just as thin - but the socketed CPU has heat pipes to a fan *beside* the CPU, rather than on top.

Was it done for design, or to keep people from upgrading after market. Apple (and the fanbois) will claim the former, of course. 😉
 
Time is money. Businesses that depend on a lot of rebooting for their income are in for some good news! 😛
 
Ejluszcz said:
im suprised no one with a 2.16 has posted anything....

Perhaps most people are not silly enough to waste 300 bucks for a paltry 160 megahertz increase. They need more a of a spread between models if they want to charge these prices.
 
I've got a 2.16 and I was the 50th post in this forum... Why 300 bucks for it you ask? I had a feeling it was soldered in and I wanted to get the most for my money, was it worth it? Too early to tell, maybe not, who knows. It is kind of neat to have a more powerful (sure it's the pro-version) laptop then the consumer desktop of apple's, when was the last time that's happened? Has it ever?? Oh well, it was 270 more with student discount so I guess it wasn't quite 300, but where else do you have to go after the 7200 hard drive and 2 GB of ram (the second is on its way as a present from the mrs. since I KNOW I can get another gig for less than what apple charges, the ram's not soldered in, and I should easily be able to add more myself). Anyways, I got a 2.16 on Feb. 22nd at 10 A.M. and it is by far faster then a 1.9 ghz 17" G5 iMac w/512 ram (universal apps of course), 1.33 ghz 14" iBook (with 768 of ram), 1.42 ghz Mac Mini (with gig of ram), and the 15" 1.67 ghz PowerBook final rev. Of course this isn't using rosetta but word goes just as fast as the iBook and Mini, and adobe CS2 about the same. Although the 1.67 PowerBook and 1.9 iMac have a noticible improvement over adobe in rosetta on this MBP. I don't have benchmarks, but just using all of them - you learn to be able to tell and guesstimate.

Edit: I believe it was a hatachi, but others got seagates so maybe mine is one to and I have forgotten in this period of roughly 5 hours waiting for it to sleep long enough to calibrate the battery. So it could be a seagate but I thought I read hitachi, is it possibly for apple to use different drives in different models? For example, a 7200 seagate in one persons and a 7200 hatachi in mine. I could be very wrong, I'll try to write back tomorrow to clear up this mess I've made, sorry
 
Plecky said:
I got my 2.16 MBP w/1 gig of ram and 7200 100 gb hard drive. One question I have, not to sound like I don't trust apple on this but since it was a CTO option - how do I check to make sure my 100 gb hard drive is spinning @ 7200 oppose to 5400? Do I just look up the hitachi make/model and check out it specs online. Or is there a way to system profile it, although I couldn't find that detail in the system profiler. If anybody could help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated, I just want to be able to check and there's got to be a easier way then google-ing the drive and reading its specs, someway to do it using apple's own OS and goodies right? I hope so 🙂 Also, thanks in advance!
That's exactly what I would do; get the Make and Model from System Profiler and then google it. 🙂
 
EricNau said:
That's exactly what I would do; get the Make and Model from System Profiler and then google it. 🙂

My machine came witha a Seagate ST910021AS

Apple - About This Mac - More Info - Serial ATA ----

Another interesting note. On the first charge, battery was 3.5 hours. I discharged the battery fully and now got 4.5 hours. [Both the estiamted time on battery as reported by battery status]
 
ender78 said:
My machine came witha a Seagate ST910021AS

Apple - About This Mac - More Info - Serial ATA ----

Another interesting note. On the first charge, battery was 3.5 hours. I discharged the battery fully and now got 4.5 hours. [Both the estiamted time on battery as reported by battery status]
That would make it 7200 rpm. Link
 
MacH4X0r said:
😡
Mine arrived this morning around noon, at my HOUSE
I'm off at college, so my parents have to ship it to me...
Freaking WEAK SAUCE

Dude I know how you feel. I'm at college too, and mine arrived at my house today so I had my parents ship it as fast as freakin possible. I should have it by tomorrow or friday, we'll see.

Edit: In case anybody asks, I had it shipped to Oregon (home) instead of Washington (college) cause I didn't feel like paying an extra few hundred $$ tax. They tax you depending on your shipping address, not the payment address. (yes, i called apple and confirmed this, in case anybody tries to argue).
 
C'mon people

I'm glad to see all these MacBooks trickling in...

but regarding the battery life....

SINCE WHEN does that indicator under the battery symbol give an accurate readout? I mean, some of you guys are taking that as if it were known to be 100%. ITS NOT. its never been. its an estimate that fluctuates depending on what youre doing. It tries to guess, given some sort of criteria, what it's battery will be like in a couple hours and it undershoots it. I know becuase mine does it all the time. 3:30 turns out to be more like 4 hours and some change... pushing five. And my laptop is a year and a half old!

I'd wait for Apple's official release on this one.. then knock off about 30 mins to an hour to account for actual use. Either that, or have someone who has theirs already give us an estimate - disregarding what the indicator says - of an average time among say 4 or 5 complete discharges with normal use (and by normal i mean slightly dimmed screen... "better batter life" set.... AP or BT off if not in use... with every program closed other than the ones being used ie Safari, Mail, iChat... etc..

then i wanna see the times... and i theeeen might be like... ohhhh ok.. ..
 
I timed my MacBook Pro 2.0Ghz from the second I hit the power button... 63 seconds to login screen. I did the same with my old 867Mhz 12" Powerbook and it was 43 seconds... of course, once the MBP is up it smokes the old Powerbook by a mile. Seem the Intel architecture does more checks before it starts loading the OS.

I'm gonna run the battery dry tomorrow and let you know how it goes. I got an estimate of 4:14 when I pulled out the power and kept the screen dim. BTW I just posted some pics of my MBP, and make the pages out of the new iWeb application to boot! (see my .sig).

Don't need no stinkin' benchmarks!
 
i got the 2.0. i hope i don't regret getting the 2.16. will i notice THAT much of a difference?? the apple rep on the phone said no it wasn't worth $270. nor did my dad who's a software engineer for continental air. I don't know why i'm asking! it's too late! duh! haha

does anyone know why the keyboard lights go off and on a lot periodically in a dark room? or is it just mine? I know it's sensitive to the light, but no light here and constant activity. hmm😕

also yesterday my mbp shut down on me 3 times while on 70% range of battery. It would turn off completely and reboot on it's own WHILE i was typing...
 
kahollan said:
also yesterday my mbp shut down on me 3 times while on 70% range of battery. It would turn off completely and reboot on it's own WHILE i was typing...

Another user has reported a similar issue (thread). Does yours make any funny noises when it does.

Let's put it this way: you would not expect a top of the range laptop that cost you a small fortune to reboot itself without asking.. I'd contact apple.
 
Ah, the excitement builds...

While the benchmarks for Photoshop CS were disappointing if you already owned a 1.5GHz PowerBook, I'm really happy to see that even under emulation I would see better performance from Photoshop (which, in fairness, I don't use very often) that on my current 1GHz Ti PowerBook. Either way I'm going to be very happy with my MacBook as and when they get around to releasing the beast that I'm waiting for.

The only thing that I don't much like about the MacBook Pro, and this goes for the Aluminium PowerBooks as well, is the completely silver finish. Silver on the keyboard just doesn't look right to me and I think I'm going to miss the black keyboard from my current Ti PowerBook. Given this I'm hoping that they will re-design the case in a forthcoming revision. An iPod Black finish would be nice...
 
My results

My 2GHz MBP has 1GB of ram and the 100GB 7200rmp drive, it replaced my Rev A TI 500MHz PowerBook. Obviously it kicks the snot out of my old PowerBook on all non-universal apps so a comparison would be meaningless. BUT, one of my companies makes a few Java app and my MBP is getting a performance edge over my Dual 2GHz G5 right next to it for our Java apps.

Right now I'm doing the battery calibration and I'm at 4:49 on batteries... five minutes ago I got the warning... All power setting were left at the default for batteries...
For two hours I was doing heavy database work over airport. Followed by burning some CDs. Then about an hour and a half of email and manual writting/editing. Then an hour web surfing while iTunes was running in the background. My computer screen never slept for more than ten to fifteen minutes. I've got 7 minutes left showing so I am going to quit all apps and let it take a sleep for the night and then recharge in the morning.

I unplugged at 8PM and it is now 12:49AM. More than four hours on batteries doing actual work... I'm happy!
 
Arcady said:
Perhaps most people are not silly enough to waste 300 bucks for a paltry 160 megahertz increase.

I'm taking this quote slightly out of context but its a point that should be disected.



upgrading from the 1.83 to the 2 GHz cost $2.94 per MHz

upgrading from 2 to 2.16 GHz cost $1.88 per MHz,

which averages $2.42 per MHz over the base.

IMHO I would either get the base or go big, there is more value in the 2.16 upgrade than the 2.0 upgrade. my 2¢
 
dubnluvn said:
I'm taking this quote slightly out of context but its a point that should be disected.



upgrading from the 1.83 to the 2 GHz cost $2.94 per MHz

upgrading from 2 to 2.16 GHz cost $1.88 per MHz,

which averages $2.42 per MHz over the base.

IMHO I would either get the base or go big, there is more value in the 2.16 upgrade than the 2.0 upgrade. my 2¢

Actually, I believe that one gets a few extra benefits with the $2.94 per MHZ:
Hard drive larger
Memory 512MB vs 1GB
PCI Express Graphics 128MB vs 256MB

The real question is whether one will actually notice a difference. If you read the threads, the start-up times from the same model MBP differ by more than what one could expect from a few MHZ difference.
 
dubnluvn said:
I'm taking this quote slightly out of context but its a point that should be disected.

What's this "BootUpTime" hype all about? Doesn't qualify a system at all..

Prices MacBoook Pro:

1.83GHz | 512MB | 80GB = $1999
1.83GHz | 1GB 1x | 100GB = $2299 (upgraded in AppleStore!)
2.0GHz | 1GB 1x | 100GB = $2499 [ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB GDDR3]


The 2.13GHz CTO is nice, but for sure it's not worth the $$$ -
 
International Shipping

Was just wondering, has anyone recieved their MacBook Pro outside the U.S?
Am in Hong Kong and still have a shipping time of two weeks, despite them coming out of China.
 
kahollan said:
i got the 2.0. i hope i don't regret getting the 2.16. will i notice THAT much of a difference?? the apple rep on the phone said no it wasn't worth $270. nor did my dad who's a software engineer for continental air. I don't know why i'm asking! it's too late! duh! haha
You shouldn't ask "is 160 MHz worth $270", you should ask "how do a get the most improvement by spending $270". The biggest improvement for the money will come from adding RAM.
 
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