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what about the pricce ??

hello am new here i cant wait to buy my first APPLE macbook pro but avery body talks about the update and what about the price !!!!i know its gonna be a better machine but uwhat u guys think !!they are gonna charge more or the same please i need help with this question !! thank u so happy that am gonna get my macbook pro soon THank u ..................dj Zonico from NYc
 
Well...went in tonight to pick the MBP or talk to the guys. I was told that they had my unit out the back put away for me but had no 15" at all. I gave it a thought and said stuff it, stuff the new MBPs, I can't really say no to them since I agreed to buy it, etc. So, I'm now the proud new owner of a 13" MBP :)

Setup was a doddle and my parents were absolutely impressed with the keyboard and back lighting, as well as the isight cam too. Not to mention that it picked up my wireless modem straight away and I was surfing the net after the 3 minute setup wizard. Both were really impressed by the finish and build quality too, and dad loves the magnified dock effect ;-) Neither have seen a Mac before tonight. Oh, and my dad was absolutely blown away by the magnetic power connector. Before I know it, my dad will probably have gotten one lol!

Happy MBP'ing guys.

Dave

I would like to have the same experience soon, although I'm getting the 2.66ghz 15inch MBP instead. I really want to wait for the new refresh, but it is taking way to long for my liking.

BTW this will be my first ever mac computer, the pc laptop I have now is 3 years old and is just too slow and heavy.
 
Tax Refund and Apple purchase

I am thinking that the new Mb/MBPs will not be released until like a week after the iPad. Here is my logic and it is based on nothing but a lot of thinking and wanting of a new MBP.

Now is Tax refund time and also time when Apple wants as many people as possible to adopt the new platform that is iPad. Once the big day comes there will still be time for tax refund investment into shiny new laptops and there will be a huge buzz (attention) around Apple products.

Basically I'm just posting to pass the time until the new machines are announced. I'm not even in the US right now and will have to wait until I get back to buy on anyway.

I do wonder how much tax refund time plays into marketing decisions. I know that the first two things I think of are MBP and iPad. I'm going to wait for the iPad to see if they sneak a camera in and I also want Thai language support so MBP first iPad second.
 
I never had a mac either.I could not waite for the refresh wanted it now.unless you really need the real powerful machine the current ones are awsome.i bought the higher end mackbook pro 13inch,and i love it.just go buy the current one you will be happy trust me.unless you need all that power.
 
i figure ive waited this long. whats another few weeks. worst case scenario i dont like the update (very unlikely) and i get a smoking deal on the refurb site. as long as i have one for my birthday in august im good to go. this ipad thing is really throwing a wrench in the gears. id rather a mbp update then they can release the ipad.
 
I would like to have the same experience soon, although I'm getting the 2.66ghz 15inch MBP instead. I really want to wait for the new refresh, but it is taking way to long for my liking.

BTW this will be my first ever mac computer, the pc laptop I have now is 3 years old and is just too slow and heavy.

*fingers crossed* for you. I've got an older PPC (power pc) Mac - PowerMac G4 1ghz unit running Panther (10.3). I'm quite rusty with Macs these days, since a lot has changed since 10.2/10.3. This is my first Apple laptop, it's a beautiful machine. I guess I do have an advantage of having worked for Apple a number of years ago (tier 1 support) and Apple tech training, although I've forgotten most of the ultra tech stuff. Must find my training notes lol.

That all said, my main machine is still my PC - a trusty quadcore Q6600 with 8GB ram running Vista x64, Windows XP 32bit & Debian AMD64 GNU/Linux (yes, a triple boot system). Add to all of that, I have several VMs running anything from Solaris 10 to Ubuntu and freeBSD. I like my UNIX (yes, it's actually UNIX, not Unix or unix etc) and UNIX like systems.

Dave
 
Why wait???

Bottom line is there is no way these new macbook pros will be the same price as the existing. More powerful with more options will always mean more money. Give it at least 4 months after release for the usual price drop. Then you will want to buy one but then.....you will be expecting a refresh of the model you were looking to buy four months aog. Vicious cycle!
Just figure out what you need it for and get what ever is available now to meet your needs.
 
I wonder if Apple is timing the MBP release to come at the same time as or one week after the ipad. Perhaps they will do one of those "buy the new MBP and get $100 off an ipad" deals.
 
My opinion

Hi there, 1st post for me,... i'm a long time PC user and have decided to go MAC. Since january i have been reading 3 or 4 forums about apple releases.

In my opinion iPad is the big release for apple, no way they will make us drop atention about it. I beleave will not see a new Macbook Pro until May!

Realy hope i'm wrong!
 
Bottom line is there is no way these new macbook pros will be the same price as the existing. More powerful with more options will always mean more money. Give it at least 4 months after release for the usual price drop. Then you will want to buy one but then.....you will be expecting a refresh of the model you were looking to buy four months aog. Vicious cycle!
Just figure out what you need it for and get what ever is available now to meet your needs.


There is no usual price drop on Apple product, quite the opposite. They almost always have fixed prices throughout their product cycle. And normally there is no price increase when new models are introduced, there is just a bump in performance and the same price. Technology gets cheaper, apple computers don´t. They just get better. So the best time for shopping is always just after new machines are introduced. That´s why we have this thread... noticed how long it is?

Have a nice day
 
Just a reminder -- Apple is a publicly held company. They have a responsibility to their share-holders to maximize revenue. They clearly have every incentive to hold off releasing anything that would distract from selling more iPads. They spent millions developing the thing, and they have to maximize the profit and publicity they'll get from its release.

True, it does screw over the Mac community. But Apple is taking a risk that they won't lose any profit -- they probably won't. If they sold MBPs with chintzy specs that "started" at $699 like the Windows makers, they'd sell in volume. That's not how they do business.

Sure, they're selling old technology, but if they discounted all the MacPros by $500 like they should, and all the MBPs by $300, then they'd look even worse to their shareholders -- discounting prices with nothing new in the obvious pipeline.

It's never been more clear -- do NOT buy a Mac until the iPad hooplah has passed. You're just falling into a gap that Apple has had to create because of conflicts of scheduling, marketing, and engineering. Plus, if Apple actually saw purchases for all Macs plummet in the month, they'd get the message that their regular purchasers will demand better.

I'm still planning to reward Apple with my shekels when I see some life in the Mac line. I'm not planning to ditch them for Windows -- but if one must, the truth is that Windows7 is a fine improvement... just sayin', Cupertino...
 
Bottom line is there is no way these new macbook pros will be the same price as the existing. More powerful with more options will always mean more money. Give it at least 4 months after release for the usual price drop. Then you will want to buy one but then.....you will be expecting a refresh of the model you were looking to buy four months aog. Vicious cycle!
Just figure out what you need it for and get what ever is available now to meet your needs.

Exactly! Most of those waiting and waiting will not even use the entire spectrum of power these revised MBP's will have.

Decide what you are doing with it, buy accordingly via the refurb store and be happy.:)

The refresh will not provide significant faster speeds (for a normal user to notice as stated before)

Apple usually adds more HD space, speedier chips for the same prices the older models had.

As for USB 3.0 at one point even Apple needs to launch it's MBP's.

They'll put them in when they are ready.

They have concentrated on the ipad once that is all worked out they'll "catch up" with their other lines.

The current MBP's are beautiful products and Apple launches things when they are ready, not when consumers want it!

If you fall into their dates be happy , if you don't be happy too.

You still got a great product!
 
Hi there, 1st post for me,... i'm a long time PC user and have decided to go MAC. Since january i have been reading 3 or 4 forums about apple releases.

In my opinion iPad is the big release for apple, no way they will make us drop atention about it. I beleave will not see a new Macbook Pro until May!

Realy hope i'm wrong!

You're absolutely right about the iPad being important to apple. For every iPad they sell, that is one less likely customer for he HP Slate (Even if the Slate turns out to be the wonder machine HP is hoping it'll be) or any other tablet. Even if the experience isn't great on the iPad people won't spend the money twice for a different tablet (mostly), and if the experience is great, they'll stay within the apple universe as future customers.

There is a limited audience for the iPad, a much broader market audience exists for the MBP. Everyone these days is comfortable with the idea of a laptop computer, so now it becomes buying the best one you can afford for your purposes, ease of use, reliability, etc. The same isn't true for tablets, there is excitement for them, but it isn't comfortable or familiar enough for much of the market yet.

The trick for apple is to overcome that lack of familiarity and comfort and appeal to a broader audience. Half the battle is getting people to show up in the first place. If apple releases an updated MBP then that many more people will be showing up to apple stores/best buy (store in a store) for the MBP. Once they are there, showing off the iPad, demonstrating a usefulness for the MBP purchaser, creates a potential customer. If you're already able to spend $1500-2500 on an MBP (or more with options) than you can probably afford the extra $500-$800 for an iPad as an add on purchase. They might cut you a break (Margins on the iPad appear to be high but the total cost of research and development isn't known so the margin is based on hardware alone) so they could give you a 10% off the iPad if you buy both to sweeten the deal, and some might bite. Those that don't were never iPad customers to begin with, but those that do may have otherwise never purchased the device.

With that said, it doesn't do Apple any favors to let us all run out, spend a few thousand dollars and come home. Once we're home we have to be convinced to leave our MBP long enough to come back to the store and spend more money, buyer's remorse (not over the purchase, but the expenditure) will kick in and people who just bought an MBP might not be as easily convinced a week later that they need both, while might be persuaded when they are holding both at once.

I'm a little surprised we haven't seen an update saying the MBPs would be released, if for no purpose than to keep people from migrating to PC platforms. People who have never bought a mac are reluctant to spend the price for older tech and have no vested interest in the OS having never used it and owning little or no software for it. Apple is losing a few new customers with this delay. The stability of Windows 7 and general perception that it "fixed" Vista is keeping people from leaving PCs too, and even attracting some Mac fans to the system for its support of Blu-Ray and newer tech.

Long story short, Apple is probably better served by letting us all know we have an update in sight so we don't go buy a PC, but waiting to release until there are sufficient quantities of iPads in the stores to try and double up on sales with MBP purchasers. At least in my opinion :)
 
There is a limited audience for the iPad, a much broader market audience exists for the MBP. Everyone these days is comfortable with the idea of a laptop computer, so now it becomes buying the best one you can afford for your purposes, ease of use, reliability, etc. The same isn't true for tablets, there is excitement for them, but it isn't comfortable or familiar enough for much of the market yet.

The trick for apple is to overcome that lack of familiarity and comfort and appeal to a broader audience. Half the battle is getting people to show up in the first place. If apple releases an updated MBP then that many more people will be showing up to apple stores/best buy (store in a store) for the MBP. Once they are there, showing off the iPad, demonstrating a usefulness for the MBP purchaser, creates a potential customer. If you're already able to spend $1500-2500 on an MBP (or more with options) than you can probably afford the extra $500-$800 for an iPad as an add on purchase. They might cut you a break (Margins on the iPad appear to be high but the total cost of research and development isn't known so the margin is based on hardware alone) so they could give you a 10% off the iPad if you buy both to sweeten the deal, and some might bite. Those that don't were never iPad customers to begin with, but those that do may have otherwise never purchased the device.

With that said, it doesn't do Apple any favors to let us all run out, spend a few thousand dollars and come home. Once we're home we have to be convinced to leave our MBP long enough to come back to the store and spend more money, buyer's remorse (not over the purchase, but the expenditure) will kick in and people who just bought an MBP might not be as easily convinced a week later that they need both, while might be persuaded when they are holding both at once.

Exactly what I was thinking. Wouldn't Apple be more interested in putting out a product with at least three times the sticker price as the iPad? Then, like you said, those customers might be willing to throw down another several hundred dollars for an iPad. It seems silly to hold off releasing the new MBPs to keep the focus on the iPad. Which makes me wonder if there is even a plan to release them this Spring at all.

I am craving buying a MBP and have been for months, but I am forcing myself to wait. I am still bummed about my early 09 iMac purchase of a 24" 3.06 Core 2 Duo, just to have the 27" Widescreen Quad Cores and card readers come out in the fall. Oh well, I still love my 24", I just have a few extra inches of desk space that I would have liked taken by screen space.
 
I am in the market for a new laptop.
Was thinking of buying a MBP and installing Windows 7 on it.

I really don't like Apple's approach of selling old MBPs at full price till the date the new one is released. Kinda screwing customers.

I will check out HP Envy again, but the main thing that pulled me to the MBP is that i could have Win7 AND Mac OS at the same time, PLUS it had a DVD drive built in, oh and the backlit keyboard which would be very useful for my use.

Well luckily I don't need it immediately and can wait a while.
 
What about this:

Perhaps we'll see a culmulative update (iPad, Mac Pro AND MBP all at the same time) on Saturday 3rd April :D

(!!!Just dreaming!!!)
 
but if all of this is about nvidia and intel having a fight then we may be waiting for nothing until they fix it..or they may release some new mbp that has a problem in performance or in the lasting ofthe battery.. i dont kno how they will fix it..
 
What about this:

Perhaps we'll see a culmulative update (iPad, Mac Pro AND MBP all at the same time) on Saturday 3rd April :D

(!!!Just dreaming!!!)

think there is a slightly better chance you'll see Steve Jobs buying a Windows Mobile 7 phone or discovering the Easter Bunny has been living in your shower. But who knows... stranger things have happened!
 
but if all of this is about nvidia and intel having a fight then we may be waiting for nothing until they fix it..or they may release some new mbp that has a problem in performance or in the lasting ofthe battery.. i dont kno how they will fix it..


Yeah from what i had previously heard, the iCore chips didn't play well/at all with Nvidia GPUs.
And from what someone told me (so i don't know it's true or not), iCore mobile chips don't work well with GPUs PERIOD, not even the ATI ones.

So maybe that's caused an issue? Or MBPs might be coming out with i5 or i7 chips and no GPU....

Please someone tell me i'm wrong.
 
Yeah from what i had previously heard, the iCore chips didn't play well/at all with Nvidia GPUs.
And from what someone told me (so i don't know it's true or not), iCore mobile chips don't work well with GPUs PERIOD, not even the ATI ones.

So maybe that's caused an issue? Or MBPs might be coming out with i5 or i7 chips and no GPU....

Please someone tell me i'm wrong.

No way would they leave that i5/i7 graphics processor.... at least I hope not. An enormous share of the Mac market are those who use computers for graphical applications. Limiting the efficiency and capabilites of the computer due to a subpar graphics processor would be ignorant, and more than likely kill at least 25% of the new purchasers. People like myself who use macs primarily for music production would be fine, but I still.... I don't see them doing that.
Apple is an innovative company... if Steve Jobs said personally in front of an audience that the 2010's would take the Mac to the next level... I'm sure that means at least an acceptable GPU. :apple:
 
You've got to believe (read: hope) that the longer the wait for the new MBPs the better the specs are going to be.

I'd gladly wait for USB 3.0. And I'd especially wait for SATA-6 to take advantage of the newest and fastest SSDs.

Each day that goes by increases the likelihood of these advanced features making it into the next MBP lineup. I just wish that we had a rough time frame like is it going to be weeks, a month, a few months?
 
With all due respect...

This will sound extremely cynic, but I find it slightly humerous in respect to these forums...

Anyone who has posted that Apple will not release new MBP's until after the release of the iPad has stated that this is because they would never move the iPad from the storefront and top and center of apple.com website.

It seems Apple HAS changed their website and taken down their beloved iPad... It just took the death of Jerome B. York to make them move past the damn MaxiPad.
 
This will sound extremely cynic, but I find it slightly humerous in respect to these forums...

Anyone who has posted that Apple will not release new MBP's until after the release of the iPad has stated that this is because they would never move the iPad from the storefront and top and center of apple.com website.

It seems Apple HAS changed their website and taken down their beloved iPad... It just took the death of Jerome B. York to make them move past the damn MaxiPad.


Only on the US website, and for how long???

Not that i'm agree with any of the "iPad front and center" stuff.
 
So...

Everyone who is mentioning the i5/i7 cpu issue with the GPU should realize there is a deeper architectural issue to overcome with this mbp upgrade and will therefore require a longer time line for delivery. This is not the typical adding diskspace, backlit keyboard, faster CPU etc. This sounds like a major overhaul of the insides. I'm guessing May or June at best if this is all true. PC no longer competes with Macs. You either want one or the other because of the OS. No one who knows anything is buying a computer based on CPU speed so Apple is not worried about an HP product. Apple OS rules. Long time windows user and DO NOT want to go back. Who cares about the CPU. I use the OS.
Apple will never let anyone know about product upgrades in advance because people will stop buying! If they said it will be out in April all sales up until then would freeze. Like I said in an earlier post, Apple plays us all like a concert pianist. Get use to it.
 
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