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If the 13" MBP isn't getting updated, why is it that retail stock for it so low, as for the 15 and 17?
 
It seems like many of the people wanting the 13" MacBook Pro don't really need the Pro at all. A plain, old MacBook would do just fine. In fact, if you look at the specs for the current 13" MBP and the MB you'll see they are very similar machines. The new version will be more powerful but probably not amazingly so.

If you really need power, you need the Pro but I've been using a MacBook in my work as a programmer and have found it to be acceptable. The only reason I'm upgrading to the new MBP (when they come out) is that my screen died and I am doing enough demanding stuff like simultaneously running Photoshop, Netbeans, Terminal, Mail, Safari, Firefox, Virtual Box (where I'm running Windows XP, Outlook, IE6 and Firefox), a webserver and database, Macvim, iChat, Preview and a bunch of smaller utilities, that I can justify the need. But I'm currently running all of that on a 2 year old MacBook with 2GB of RAM and it works. Not super responsive but that is more of a RAM issue and a "multiple years of cruft on the hard drive" issue than anything else. I really suspect that most users could easily get away with a MacBook with a bunch of RAM. Certainly if you find yourself thinking "Do I need the MacBook or the MacBook Pro?" you will probably be just fine with the MacBook.

Can see your POV in regards to power but it's not just about that.

Do I want a plastic notebook? No.

Do I want a better display? Yes.

Do I want a backlit KB? Yes.

Do I want the option to upgrade to 8GB of RAM later on down the line? Yes.

What size of notebook do I want? 15"

So yes specs wise the white MB might be enough for my needs, but not enough for what I want. If I'm spending a lot of money on a notebook I want to feel secure in the knowledge that it's going to be solid enough to cart about. Plastic just doesn't give me that reassurance.

Also added to that I can't stand white electronics, if it's a fridge, washing machine etc then fair enough, but not on a notebook.
 
Can see your POV in regards to power but it's not just about that.

Do I want a plastic notebook? No.

Do I want a better display? Yes.

Do I want a backlit KB? Yes.

Do I want the option to upgrade to 8GB of RAM later on down the line? Yes.

What size of notebook do I want? 15"

So yes specs wise the white MB might be enough for my needs, but not enough for what I want. If I'm spending a lot of money on a notebook I want to feel secure in the knowledge that it's going to be solid enough to cart about. Plastic just doesn't give me that reassurance.

Also added to that I can't stand white electronics, if it's a fridge, washing machine etc then fair enough, but not on a notebook.

Not to mention 8 hours of battery, vs what 4?
 
If we're bantering around battery life, why don't we just use the more "real-world" tests? In those, none of these notebooks actually lasts the reported 7-8 hours. :/
 
Also added to that I can't stand white electronics, if it's a fridge, washing machine etc then fair enough, but not on a notebook.

...or tacky white plastic power bricks, cables, earbuds and other accessories.

Please, charcoal or another neutral dark color.

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Apple should really update the 13" line as well. It's almost 1 year since they first introduced 13" MBP. But I seriously wouldn't be too surprised if they won't.

But on the good note, if the new 15 & 17" MBP will be priced as in the screenshots and the 13" models won't be refreshed, there will be a big price drop so they will be even more affordable.

I just hope Apple realizes that C2D is way too old now, even though it's still really efficient and manages to do everything one needs.

I'll wait a little longer until the 15" comes out. Better get the money worthwhile.
 
A quad-core 17" Macbook Pro with 8 gigs of RAM, a 1 TB 7200 RPM disk, a Blu-ray Lightscribe internal burner, and an OLED screen.

That would be great! I'd like to see that in a 15" version too. The Blu-ray Lightscribe internal burner is something that many non-video professionals don't seem to understand that there is a real need for. It would be so nice to burn a Blu-ray disc for a client directly on a Mac Book Pro from a Final Cut Pro sequence. Also the cost effective video archiving to Blu-ray disc is much cheaper than buying additional hard drives all the time.
 
Absolutely, except for one thing: memory. Say you want to run one of the virtual machines, or, you want to do some image processing of some type, then you probably want 8 GB. Other than that, the old White Macbook is fine (maybe better even!).

I think the white MacBooks actually support 8 GB. But if you look at how much more Apple charges for a MBP with 8 GB, and then you assume Apple would charge the some money for 8 GB in a MacBook, then you'll see that with a MacBook, the RAM would cost almost as much as the whole computer. Offering a MacBook with 8 GB at that price would just upset people.
 
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