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HD is defined by vertical resolution only. So if it's greater than 720 horizontal lines then it's HD.

umm still false.
 
Obviously not.

(Not wide enough)

As another poster mentioned, it is at least 720 high, so that counts, by twisted definitions of HD.

And also, I was confusing my plasma, with its 1024x768 resolution being HD due to non-square pixels..argh! :eek:
 
Hello all,

Are we likely to see a refresh to the iMac line aswell??? I see from the buyers guide that its approaching it average life cycle. My mum is looking a new mac and Ive asked her to hold off for a bit.

Good news about the MBP though Im also ready to pull the trigger on Dual SSD 8Gb 1Gb graphics 15"inch. No optical drive for me please Apple!
 
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I am glad someone replied to this. While I think this sounds rather expensive, it would be quite an upgrade and match the business class windows laptops better with their magnesium and carbon fiber chassis. Although I would be surprised as first the article mentions using aluminum, second because they mentioned reduced costs, and lastly because what is Apple going to do with all their CNC machines which are only at most five years old as a switch for the MacBook pros would certainly lead to a switch for the rest of the lineup.
Nevertheless, I hope it's true. This would be very cool. I hope after the larger portables, the iOS devices would get it next.

I would imagine Apple will keep their CNC for manufacturing. Id guess that if this new super duper metal is used it will turn up as a block and wont be moulded in any way therefore the production element and cost stays the same.
Seems like a pipe dream though and very expensive although Apple may have the edge in making a deal in bringing it to the masses therefore less production cost. Who knows!
 
There is much discussion and many reasons for/against and opinions about the fate of the ODD in the MPB refresh, specifically the 13". People seem to have lost sight about where this all originated from. This discussion came about because people want the SB processor, which can only have intel intergrated graphics (apparently not as good as 320m) or discrete graphics. and there is simply not enough room in the 13" to have a SB and discrete graphics. Since it is unlikely apple with take a step back in graphics capabilities, the discussion arose about possibly dropping to ODD to accomodate this configuration (SB +discrete graphics)... So the people that say 'i want SB i5, discrete and i need to ODD to do things too'. its not going to happen, and the debate is less about whether people need/want the ODD for work or play or whatever. and more about what will actually fit in the machine.

i think....
 
I would be interested in them, but as Apple is starting to feel more like a hardcore monopoly than Microsoft ever did.... With no Blu-Ray and locking down program sales on iphone/ipads, censoring software that can be used on devices.

I am starting to think of getting an HP Beats laptop or maybe a Sony Vaio as a replacement for my MBP.

actually, up until recently I was in the same boat. To an extent I still am. Depending on the refresh specs, I may still go the sony vaio route (I had a vaio a few years back, never gave me any trouble).

I've been a mac user and advocate since about 2000 (OS 9 through now) and while I'm glad that apple is rising out of the pit that the 90's dragged it down into and I understand their need to assure a level of quality to the majority through restrictions, they seem to take is too far in some regards, nowadays. They also make buying their Pro line of computers harder to justify now that their hardware architecture follows industry standards (particularly the mac pro). That as it may be, they are still very much the BMW / Benz of the computing world for better or worst... well more like Lexus now. You can buy the camery or the the lexus LS, you're getting roughly the same car either way; I'm going to wait until the release to decide.
 
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Is it really so far fetched to believe that Apple won't start locking down Mac OSX also? Sorry i just believe a hardware and OS company ought not be putting these restrictions on their end users/ customers.

I ought to be able to install anything i want on any of my devices, whether Mac, iPad, iPhone.

Also, i believe Apple is starting to be a complete hardass about royalties for anything sold or subscribed to for use on their devices. Don't even get me started on the censorship and disabling of possibilities.

There ought to be a better way. maybe it actually is freer and less monopolistic with Microsoft?

Also... last time i checked Apple is making money hand over fist, i just don't get why they have to own a piece of everything. it is anti-competitive, hostile to their end users and other companies.

Regulation and management is a social imparative for just about everything in a society. That is necessary for a civilization to remain 'civilized'.

As an example, if YOUR THINKING prevailed, the pedophiles and other sickos could freely and openly store gigabytes of their sick pics and movies on their computers.
 
umm still false.

Umm No. You are wrong.

This is from wikipedia:

High-definition video or HD video refers to any video system of higher resolution than standard-definition (SD) video, and most commonly involves display resolutions of 1,280×720 pixels (720p) or 1,920×1,080 pixels (1080i/1080p).

This is from CNet
http://reviews.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/

Native resolution 1 Commonly called 2 Meets definition of high-def? 3 Frequency TV types and typical sizes
1,024x768 768p, 720p Yes Restricted to entry-level plasmas Entry-level 42-inch plasma

Now quit arguing about something you clearly do not know about.
 
This is true. With the last refresh, the store employee had no clue about the update. He had to go check inventory and needless to say I walked out with a new MBP. :) My suspicions were that they keep it on hush until the old stock are cleared out. Who knows?

Has anyone else experienced something similar in this regard? I'm just curious to know if this is indeed an "unofficial" or "in-the-know" policy held at the Apple store?



Hoping for edge to egde screen like my Titanium Powerbook has.
:rolleyes:

Basically, you should never apply what you read at MacRumors into the real world.

Yep, write a list of 10 things you want for the new MBPs, and then cross off eight, including your top two most wanted features...

Now that's what the new MBPs will look like!;)

Hahaha...




I do believe LiquidMetal is in the future of Apple's portable lines, but I'm skeptical that the company has been working with it long enough to go into large-scale manufacturing with it at this time. Probably next rev, but hope springs eternal.

I completely agree. I'd expect to see it in the iPhone this summer before we see it in the MBP.

Yeah, I'm skeptical too about seeing any major form-factor redesign unveiled in this upcoming MacBook Pro refresh. Besides, the current unibody design is still relatively new, so, IMHO, I think it's more realistic to expect Apple to make more of a splash featuring a revamped MBP body-design alongside some other prominent features such as light-peak, quad-core chips and high capacity SSD options. And if this is so, then most likely we won't see a brand new MBP body design until at least the end of this year, if not 2012.



Gaaah!!! Just release it already!!!

You are not alone on this... c'mon Apple!!!
 
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As another poster mentioned, it is at least 720 high, so that counts, by twisted definitions of HD.

And also, I was confusing my plasma, with its 1024x768 resolution being HD due to non-square pixels..argh! :eek:

No read my post above.

And here is some more:
Vertical resolution: This is the number of horizontal lines that can be resolved in an image from top to bottom. The old familiar CRT TV displays 576 lines, while Digital HD television operates at a resolution of either 720 or 1080 lines. This is the most important resolution as it is most noticeable to the human eye.

Horizontal resolution: This is the number of vertical lines that can be resolved from one side of an image to the other. Horizontal resolution varies depending on the source. The number of horizontal pixels is not quite so critical as vertical resolution as it is not as obvious to the human eye during normal viewing.

I can find more.

Its funny how people and the media have attempted to twist the definition of high definition tv in the last few years from its original definition as 1080p TVs become cheap commodities and PC Monitors are close to doubling 1080p.
 
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No.

Apple, take your time. Get it right.

Only a fool would want you to rush product development.

And only a socially awkward person would take that opportunity to make such a smug and unneeded statement.

I can't wait to get more info on these bad murphies!

-Taps finger on debit card like a gunfighter waiting for the clock to strike noon"
 
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Does this expected update of the MBP mean that an update for the regular white macbooks is also imminent? Or will they stop updating the regular macbooks because they are quite similar to the MBP 13 inch version? I really want to buy a regular macbook, but wairing for the update.
 
Yes, oh, yes, woohoo! First week of March would be awesome. BTW, why would someone negrep a post such as this one, people are weird..
 
One More Just To Stop Any Doubt In Your Mind

http://alvyray.com/digitaltv/CEADefinitions.htm

The definitions are expected to be incorporated into manufacturers' television marketing materials in the coming months. CEA's Video Division Board developed the definitions to more clearly define parameters for the varying levels of DTV products available and to make it easier for consumers to differentiate between the types of DTV products offered. The Board defined minimum attribute resolution requirements that, until now, had not existed for High Definition televisions and monitors. Specifically, HDTV displays must have active top-to-bottom scan lines of 720 progressive, 1080 interlaced, or higher. Additionally, for the first time, consumers will be able to understand the different technical approaches taken by manufacturers to the display of widescreen high definition programming, particularly on 4:3 aspect ratio HDTV displays. (Manufacturers will disclose the number of active scan lines for a high definition image within a 16:9 aspect ratio "letter boxed" image area on an HDTV display).

The CEA Digital Television definitions are:

High-Definition Television (HDTV): HDTV refers to a complete product/system with the following minimum performance attributes:

* Receiver: Receives ATSC terrestrial digital transmissions and decodes all ATSC Table 3 video formats

* Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 720 progressive (720p), 1080 interlaced (1080i), or higher

* Aspect Ratio: Capable of displaying a 16:9 image (1)

* Audio: Receives and reproduces, and/or outputs Dolby Digital audio

High-Definition Television (HDTV) Monitor: HDTV Monitor refers to a monitor or display with the following minimum performance attributes:

* Display Scanning Format: Has active vertical scanning lines of 720 progressive (720p), 1080 interlaced (1080i), or higher Aspect Ratio: Capable of displaying a 16:9 image (1)

(1) In specifications found on product literature and in owner's manuals, manufacturers are required to disclose the number of vertical scanning lines in the 16:9 viewable area, which must be 540p, 810i or higher to meet the definition of HDTV.
 
And only a socially awkward person would take that opportunity to make such a smug and unneeded statement.

I can't wait to get more info on these bad murphies!

-Taps finger on debit card like a gunfighter waiting for the clock to strike noon"
Nah, I'm a shareholder in addition to being an occasional customer.

Again, it is unwise and typically un-Apple to rush out product. Why else would their market capitalization be over $330 billion? Only fools rush this stuff.

Also, you should really use a true credit card for these purchases and take advantage of the extended warranty that quality credit card issuers offer. Debit cards lack those bennies.
 
Regulation and management is a social imparative for just about everything in a society. That is necessary for a civilization to remain 'civilized'.

As an example, if YOUR THINKING prevailed, the pedophiles and other sickos could freely and openly store gigabytes of their sick pics and movies on their computers.

equating my wanting of freedom of choice and to buy software from third party companies, to use software from places like google or other companies with a comparison to pedophlia?

don't be an jerk.

last time i checked, people were breaking laws with all sorts of computers. why degrade an intelligent conversation with insults and horrible ill thought out consequences?
 
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Hurrah!

My wife's 13" got watered about a month ago by some t**t at her work. Insurance gave her the cheque a few weeks back and I've been telling her to hold on. She's nearly gone to the Apple store and bought a replacement one a few times as she really needs it and keeps having to use mine. After trying to explain a few times about i5's/i7's and point out how old the C2D's are, and showing her rumours, she's now happy to wait.

This is very helpful news in stopping her impatience though, and she's now happy to wait (although rather inconvienient). :cool:
 
Does this expected update of the MBP mean that an update for the regular white macbooks is also imminent? Or will they stop updating the regular macbooks because they are quite similar to the MBP 13 inch version? I really want to buy a regular macbook, but wairing for the update.

We'll have to wait and see what happens. If the MacBook isn't discontinued, I think it should be updated sometime in the next few months or so. Whether or not that's at the same time as the MBPs is another matter. I'd suggest keeping an eye on the rumours released over the next few weeks or so leading up to the MBP refresh.
 
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