Clearly you've never held a real brick.
If you keep throwing logic out the window like this, you're going to break it.
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macOS 10.14 Mojave Drops Support for Many Older Machines
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If you keep throwing logic out the window like this, you're going to break it.
Keep in mind security updates for High Sierra should continue for another 24 months...
Will that eGPU be able to drive a Apple 30" Cinema Display? That's what's currently connected to my MacPro 5,1
In the past Apple dropped support for older machines due to a small hardware limitation, usually related to the cpu and supported instruction sets. Does anyone know what the limitation is this time?
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yea, but those specs don't tell the whole story. First, those minimum specs, I'm pretty sure, are for installations like W10 embedded, where fancy features won't run. Second, a 1ghz computer today is different than a 1ghz computer in 2004. 1ghz in 2004 meant an Intel Celeron or something. Today's equivalent low end Intel CPUs would destroy those, even with the same clock speed.
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yea, but those specs don't tell the whole story. First, those minimum specs, I'm pretty sure, are for installations like W10 embedded, where fancy features won't run. Second, a 1ghz computer today is different than a 1ghz computer in 2004. 1ghz in 2004 meant an Intel Celeron or something. Today's equivalent low end Intel CPUs would destroy those, even with the same clock speed.
My 2011 MBP could run it very well. I've upgraded it to SSD and I got 16gb of ram. The other specs are pretty good too. :/
Bottom line? I think, yes, in the very short run (next two years), iOS and macOS will be separate. In three years? No, I don't believe Apple's plans are to maintain separation between iOS and macOS. There are too many upsides to merging the OSes. And iOS is (IMHO) so good right now, they need only make a few changes to iPad software and hardware and I'd easily be able to abandon the Mac platform.
So, in 2018, my choice is to invest $3K into a platform (Mac and macOS) where Apple seems to be making slow progress, or invest that $3K in the latest, maxed out iPad Pro coming this year, and a decent PC.
I was holding my breath for that one too. Well, it's not really my 2012 MBP anymore. It's my wife's now, but it's still a grand workhorse that I want to keep around as long as possible.
I don't get this argument, all I've heard about Windows tablets is that it is disadvantageous to have one OS for both mobile and desktops.
Mobile = battery, user touch & voice interface
Desktop = plug-in(/large battery), user keyboard, trackpad, mouse
They are just two entirely different platforms. There is no way they will merge iOS & macOS, they keep saying it, not sure why people don't believe it. The people that use Macs for video editing, science or music creation are not with you on this.
Got my iMac 21.” In August 2010!
Still runs just as fast today as when I first got it. It’s awesome. Also cost over $2K.
Only issue I had was that the screen would flicker to all black randomly or when I watched videos. That stopped several years ago.
I love it, but do want a new iMac when the next redesign happens.
Love it. Their new OS illustrates the reality that a current Apple product is just two years away from being obsolete. Well on the bright side, at least we know for sure that the current Mac Mini will be replaced or discontinued in the next couple of years.
Your MBP runs High Sierra and will get security updates for some time. I have a Mac Mini that also got left behind, but frankly I was expecting it. It works fine on High Sierra and will for some time to come, so I'm not going to get all dramatic about it.
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OH, so you're the one person who loves "lighter and thinner at the expense of everything else". Sadly Apple is catering to people like you above all these days... and we're all living with the results.
I'm going to drop Apple/Mac OS when my machines kick the bucket - but that's the key phrase 'kick the bucket' - as in break/fail/irreparably damage etc. I'd have no problems using either my Air or iMac after they were obsoleted (the Air is coming up, the iMac has a while), but have no experience doing so (would only drop these if some critical security issue came up and Apple wouldn't/couldn't patch em)
They've dropped support for 4 year old MacBooks. With an average of 400 days between product updates that's not so long.
Not like it's super short though either. It's pretty standard.
That's the problem though. Apple is now just a standard company. Nothing special but their profit margin.
Microsoft screwed the pooch when they first tried to have one OS for their phones, tablets, and traditional computers. First, with Windows 8, they just threw the UI out there. It was a very nice UI for mobile and portable, but YouTube was plastered with those "watch seniors try to use Windows 8" videos, because it was not intuitive if you were not using a touch device.
I may have issues with Apple's direction with their traditional computers (laptops and desktops), but their grasp of UI for every platform (watch, TV, phone, tablet, laptop/desktop) is second to none. And Apple already pushes a similar look and feel between the apps for video editing, music creation, audio, etc., between touch and non-touch devices.
Versatile like USB-C ports that support literally every I/O imaginable including power and use the same connector for all of them? Your way sounds pretty inconvenient unless your gripe is that you don't want to buy a few cables on Amazon.Oh, you're a charmer.
And I also drive a 2004 Honda Accord, in case you're interested. I suppose that makes me an old fogie (though I grew up in the 90's) but sexy as modern tech might be, it taketh away as much as it giveth, and I don't like a computer without versatile I/O components any more than I like a car that thinks for me. I'll do my own thinking, thankyouverymuch.
It's sad that one has to turn to Microsoft to continue being supported. I'm certain that Win10 will run well on a 2011 Mac though.
This is ridiculous. What is their standard on which models to drop and which models to keep? 10.6 dropped support for PPC machines, 10.7 dropped support for 32-bit computers, 10.8 dropped support for processors with a 32-bit EFI (even though it didn't need to), but with 10.12 they just dropped support for a random set of computers. That already pissed me off since right before then I upgraded my MacBook to a 2009 model but just two years later this happens again? Seriously?
While I understand that computers, including Macs, naturally become outdated as technology improves, in recent years there have been little technological progress (at least for PCs) that could justify the drop for OS support. A 2009 computer is only marginally less advanced than a 2012 computer, compared to, let's say a 2005 computer which looks outdated in comparison to said 2009 computer. Naturally, this means that software support should be longer, and considering how Mac hardware has been getting worse and worse as time goes on, I have less and less motivation to even consider getting a Mac nowadays.
While I understand that computers, including Macs, naturally become outdated as technology improves, in recent years there have been little technological progress (at least for PCs) that could justify the drop for OS support. A 2009 computer is only marginally less advanced than a 2012 computer, compared to, let's say a 2005 computer which looks outdated in comparison to said 2009 computer. Naturally, this means that software support should be longer, and considering how Mac hardware has been getting worse and worse as time goes on, I have less and less motivation to even consider getting a Mac nowadays.
Dude is a 2011 machine. Did you think it was going to be updated forever?
I also have a 2011 MacBook Pro but I have no means to switch to a inferior software (windows) because of a update. My mac runs buttery smooth
The best use for a 2011 iMac is now either Windows or Linux.
