groadyho
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I have an 8yr old HP with beats audio that runs Windows 10 like a dream. She'll go til she dies or slows down neither of which has happened yet for only $800
macOS 10.14 Mojave Drops Support for Many Older Machines
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magicschoolbus
macrumors 68030
I really don’t find it very heavy. I use it i
Backpack though so I it’s hard to tell.
I knew it wouldn't be supported forever but I can't understand why the sudden jump from supporting 2009 and later machines to supporting 2012 and later. I'll have to try Mojave but from the announcements it doesn't look like a game changer. Hopefully by dropping the older Macs they were able to offer a better experience on the new ones.
redheeler
macrumors G3
The first-generation Retina is a Mid 2012 and still supported. I am already running the beta on mine.
Ya I guess. I’ve bought three of the retina MacBook, and quite like them. Dongles are NBD for the 25 minutes a month I might need them.
Middleman-77
macrumors regular
I've been holding out on upgrading my Mid-2011 MBPro because nothing of late from Apple could offer what I wanted - a laptop with a user replaceable parts, standard USB-A slots, a more powerful unit and an integrated DVD/Bluray burner. Call me old-fashioned but thats what I want. Yes my current MBPro may be showing its age without a faster GPU but so what, it still works. Also why the heck do I want USB-C when most of my daily use devices are all USB-A?. Apple actually has a lot to learn from Razer. Even though their previous Blade laptop had soldered in RAM, some of their newer models now have been changed that allows for user replaceable RAM. They should do the same for the current MBPro. Either that or I go the Hackintosh route, which would offer me far better options in both power and upgrade flexibility.
DEMinSoCAL
macrumors 603
A 2009-2010 Mac Pro can run rings around some trash-can Mac Pro's after they are updated with new CPU's RAM and a PCI-e SSD.
You're saying that dark mode requires a much more powerful computer? What else is in Mojave that would necessitate a much more powerful system (keeping in mind Apple is chopping pretty much by DATE and not by PERFORMANCE of a given machine)? Apple will allow Mojave on a 2012 Macbook Air, but not a 2009 Mac Pro with a 6-core XEON, 32GB RAM, SSD, and a beefy graphics card that is Metal compatible?
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redheeler
macrumors G3
Williesleg
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Whew!!! Slipped by on that one, thank god for my 2013 MacBook Air!!!
Great job Timmy Cook & Co. Way to go!
Great job Timmy Cook & Co. Way to go!
TMRJIJ
macrumors 68040
The logic or the brick?Clearly you've never held a real brick.
If you keep throwing logic out the window like this, you're going to break it.
justin216
macrumors 6502
I don't expect they're dropping support for performance reasons, more likely they don't want to continue updating and maintaining drivers for the old hardware, continuing the support and testing costs, etc, and at some point, they do want to push people along to new hardware. 7-8 years of longevity is a tremendous life for any modern electronic device, a significant amount of value was obviously created and it isn't unreasonable for it to go out of update support at some point.
DEMinSoCAL
macrumors 603
I wonder if a 4.1 that has been flashed to a 5,1 will be supported? I'll still be happy then.
MacSince1985
macrumors 6502
The GPU, and whether or not it supports Metal.
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Too early to tell. Just wait a few days and someone will have tried.I wonder if a 4.1 that has been flashed to a 5,1 will be supported? I'll still be happy then.
scrapesleon
macrumors 68000
Welp time to buy a new MacBook for me then
definitive
macrumors 68020
Guess I'll probably be making a decision in the next couple of years to either get a new MacBook Pro or switch to Windows like I did with my desktop after my iMac lost its support.
It's kinda sad that they drop support despite the abandoned systems still being more than capable of running their newer versions of the operating system. Even Windows 10 can run fairly fast and without any problems using a Core 2 Duo CPU with 4 gigs of RAM and a SSD.
It's kinda sad that they drop support despite the abandoned systems still being more than capable of running their newer versions of the operating system. Even Windows 10 can run fairly fast and without any problems using a Core 2 Duo CPU with 4 gigs of RAM and a SSD.
smirking
macrumors 601
Ugh, I help an elderly aunt with her computing needs and she has a touchscreen Windows 8 laptop. She uses it like a tablet and she's fine with anything you can touch on the screen, but once she has to use the mouse, it's "game over, thank you for playing, but the price of admission has just been doubled and you can pay on your way out the door".
Watching her get tied up in knots convinced me that mobile OSes and desktop OSes need to stay separate.
If you keep throwing logic out the window like this, you're going to break it.
Fair enough. So let's use real numbers: "One of the best and last great machines Apple ever made" is literally 250% the weight of my 2017 retina MacBook. And yes, I did (briefly) own the 2011 MBP. Sucker was heavy.
Anonymous Freak
macrumors 603
Same here. Was hoping it would make it one more update. My 2012 Retina MacBook Pro gets a life extension at least.
Time to troll Craigslist for cheap first-gen 5K iMacs...
Sasparilla
macrumors 68020
Already had the wife's 2011 iMac in process to go to eBay, but this ensures quick action on it.
That's a bit of the bummer, I'm totally juiced for .14 (one of the few times in years that I'm actually looking forward to the release simply because I'll use on a daily basis so much of what was talked about).
That's a bit of the bummer, I'm totally juiced for .14 (one of the few times in years that I'm actually looking forward to the release simply because I'll use on a daily basis so much of what was talked about).
The screen....other than that, it’s the perfect machine haha
(It’s my personal main home computer, I love it...but that screen can be a bit of an eyesore)
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Another 48 actually, Apple supports the last two versions with security patches
Some people would trade in their cars if they thought their lug nuts were outdated.I don't expect my machine to receive updates forever, but this $2K hardware is far from ancient. that's just like saying go buy a new car every seven years cause it can't run on this gasoline if that were the case.