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Yeah I get it.. I think I'm gonna use the 2012 basically as a stationary desktop. It's connected to my TB2 dock with MMK attached and it all works.. the 2015s will be my portable machines.. they're lighter than the 2012!. I use Firefox to stream Netflix etc..
 
Yeah I get it.. I think I'm gonna use the 2012 basically as a stationary desktop. It's connected to my TB2 dock with MMK attached and it all works.. the 2015s will be my portable machines.. they're lighter than the 2012!. I use Firefox to stream Netflix etc..
Well, the other thing I've recently discovered in the last year is, Linux is better than macOS for cross platform gaming, unless you have an Apple Silicon mac, it seems. I have Steam and Heroic installed on macOS, but even with Sonoma, I have games for windows where the cut scenes won't play video, just audio, and it seems like it's because of the need for Vukan to take the place of DirectX in some cases, that seems to only be on Linux, and M Series Macs. I'm in a really unusual place these days, because, I have better solutions than macOS for some things, yet there are one or two things that sill make macOS better, but in this case, the latest version isn't required. So, the mac isn't a one stop solution for me anymore like it used to be years ago.
 
Well, the other thing I've recently discovered in the last year is, Linux is better than macOS for cross platform gaming, unless you have an Apple Silicon mac, it seems. I have Steam and Heroic installed on macOS, but even with Sonoma, I have games for windows where the cut scenes won't play video, just audio, and it seems like it's because of the need for Vukan to take the place of DirectX in some cases, that seems to only be on Linux, and M Series Macs. I'm in a really unusual place these days, because, I have better solutions than macOS for some things, yet there are one or two things that sill make macOS better, but in this case, the latest version isn't required. So, the mac isn't a one stop solution for me anymore like it used to be years ago.
Well, I don't do any gaming.. My main thing about macOS is the syncing of Photos and files across all devices, as well as all the movies and music I've purchased in "iTunes". Only way to have all that on linux is to start all over again(which is what I started to do on this 2012MBP with LM).. Movies wouldn't be an issue but spending that money again would be. Plus all 26,000 photos/videos I have in my Photos library would be a monumental manual task of importing all of those with all meta data intact. I think I'll stick with Sonoma on this 2012 and be happy for a couple more years till I can afford a new Mx Mac.
 
Well, I don't do any gaming.. My main thing about macOS is the syncing of Photos and files across all devices, as well as all the movies and music I've purchased in "iTunes". Only way to have all that on linux is to start all over again(which is what I started to do on this 2012MBP with LM).. Movies wouldn't be an issue but spending that money again would be. Plus all 26,000 photos/videos I have in my Photos library would be a monumental manual task of importing all of those with all meta data intact. I think I'll stick with Sonoma on this 2012 and be happy for a couple more years till I can afford a new Mx Mac.
I have access to all my content through my streaming devices, and iPhone, so a computer isn't mandatory for me there. The big thing I like about Linux over macOS at this point is it was designed from the start for circumstances like we face with macOS+OCLP, Linux can be changed / modified freely unlike macOS. On the other hand, macOS has specific features I use, that make things easier on me such as text message forwarding, so I don't have to get frustrated trying to type on a touch screen, or frustrated with dictation being accurate, or not. I for one, would not have an issue paying Apple for support on older macs, or paying them to run their services on a third party OS. I didn't mind paying the $130 upgrade for Mac OS X in the day. Likewise, I wouldn't mind financially supporting projects like OCLP, if they would hire developers who could fix the limitations on unsupported by Apple installs. They could hire developers to write updated device drivers, to improve performance for example. In the case of Linux, well, if macOS was more like Linux in the the sense of being able to remove the parts of the OS incompatible, or parts people don't need, or want, would also make things easier to deal with. For several years now, macOS has been Unix first for me, and macOS second in terms of how I use the OS, and expect from it. The only Apple specific things, mentioned above are mainly used here as a form of accessibility aid, and nothing more. I really want ti get out of the Apple ecosystem all together, but haven't found a 100% solution yet because having been an apple user as long as I never really looked outside until recent years, and some of the alternatives. I found, work better for my workflow, but not 100%.

By the way, I'm not ungrateful for the work the team puts into the work they do now. I just feel things could be even better, and people should have even more options for those who want them, and know how do things. In my case, I was really good with classic Mac OS knowing the internals, early Mac OS X, I wasn't too bad with, Linux, I'm learning and have gotten good enough to manage a system. Modern macOS, I'm really out of touch with, otherwise, I'd try to manage a custom setup independent of the mainstream OCLP project.
 
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Is it ok to turn on FileVault on OCLP/Sonoma install? Will that affect booting system? I have it turned on on my 2015s with supported Monterey.
 
Is it ok to turn on FileVault on OCLP/Sonoma install? Will that affect booting system? I have it turned on on my 2015s with supported Monterey.
I've read from others that FileVault can cause problems with unsupported installs on certain models. The main one being the password not being accepted and the person being locked out. I don't personally use FileVault here, but I have seen mentions of it not working while reading through the threads.
 
*** This post is relevant only to those who are using BluetoolFixup.kext 2.7.0 and later. If you generated your Open Core EFI with OCLP 2.4.0, this post does not apply. ***

I fixed the Bluetooth problem on my hackintosh emulating SMBIOS MBP6,2 by adding BluetoolFixup boot-arg -btlfxboardid to my Open Core config.plist. I'd be curious to know if adding this boot-arg helps others experiencing bluetooth issues. I don't see any problems in Ventura, so this boot-arg became necessary (for me) starting with Sonoma and newer macOS.

EDIT: boot-arg -btlfxboardid does not affect Ventura and earlier macOS, so with this boot-arg, Bluetooth works in Big Sur through Tahoe Beta 7.

EDIT2: I checked the commits to BluetoolFixup.kext after version 2.6.9 and see that the automatic BoardID patch was removed AFTER version 2.6.9. Since OCLP 2.4.0 uses BluetoolFixup.kext 2.6.9, there is no need for boot-arg -btlfxboardid when building the Open Core EFI with OCLP 2.4.0.
 
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I did some experimenting last with AirPlay, and my late 2015 27" iMac. Since Safari and the native mac apps won't play video on an unsupported install, I thought AirPlay might work, since the iPhone is a supported install, I thoughlt I could simply use the iMac as a display alone. Apparently AirPlay on macOS still requires the GPU vs just letting the external device control the display. I can't test Airplay directly under Monterey on this mac either, as it still requires open core to enable it. Would an eGPU connected to this iMac with supported drivers get around the open core issues with having to use outdated drivers? The iMac has thunderbolt 2, and I would think that would be enough for at least HD video playback. Maybe 4k, since this mac doesn't support HDR.

By the way, I've never used an eGPU before, but if I can use one to help improve the performance of this iMac, I'd be willing to learn and invest into using one. Also, as far as bandwidth, I'm going by the bandwidth it would take playing the same quality video on the TV, that I want to watch on the Mac. I care more about getting as much use out of the 5K display as possible over the computer part. That's why I want to try to fix the graphics related issues, if I can, or as much as possible.
 
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Hey guys, saw there is 14.7.8 available to install, but according to Dortania's site there is no matching KDK yet. Should I wait to see if Apple releases one, or is this how it's going to be going forward ? New updates with no matching KDK?
I ask because there have been two recent Sonoma updates, with no matching KDK. I know it can also take Apple a bit to release the KDK, but since they never did for 1.4.7.7, and checking Dortania's github page and seeing nothing yet, just made me wonder if there was a KDK update coming, and if I should just wait for it.
 
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Very easy upgrade to Sonoma 14.7.8 on my MBP6,2. Bluetooth still working fine. Applying post-install patches with OCLP 2.4.0.

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I did the upgrade as well, and sent the root patch screenshot and about this mac screenshot to Mr. Macintosh and he confirmed it was also successful for the Sequoia update as well.
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OTA to 14.7.8 on MBA 6,2. The usual sequence: installer runs through its reboots, ending with a login screen with a black background rather than the usual wallpaper. Once in the Finder, OCLP takes note of the new system, reinstalls its patches, and reboots. The usual wallpaper appears, and after login everything works as before.
 
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Just curious - why did you need a confirmation from Mr. Macintosh?
it was to help show that the update still applied successfully with a 2 version old KDK. Usually Apple releases a new one, or at least it's only one version difference. Mr. Macintosh wanted to try the update first to make sure it wouldn't break for people who didn't know what they were doing and looking to those of use who have experience dealing with failed installs. So, I didn't need his confirmation, I just happened to have a successful update as did he on two separate versions that confirmed together it was safe to apply, at least on a newer unsupported mac.

Edit: I posted the screenshots I posted here, to his Twitter feed, as well as the status of my progress, and the fact I had a backup ready, and was prepared to deal with issues.
 
is 14.8, mainly just another security update, or is Apple still adding features / fixing bugs?
 
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is 14.8, mainly just another security update, or is Apple still adding features / fixing bugs?

It will be released with Safari 26 (what is still in Beta) when the final version of Tahoe is released. I can't say if other features are added. In the Sequoia 15.7 RCs there is nothing new if you don't install the Safari 26 Beta update. At least I haven't found anything.

RC3 was probably the security update, released two days earlier. But there must be any bug fixes in the first two ones or maybe it got just prepared for Safari 26. There are no release notes. Also no firmware files in the Developer downloads.
My three updates were all just called 15.7, I only remember the last one was much smaller and included security fixes in the text. No word about RC in any update .I thought it was already the final version.
I saw it later in an article here but only for 15.7 RC1 and 2, there was no word about a Sonoma 14.8 RC and 15.7 RC3 was also not mentioned when it got released only the first and second one.
Sequoia is the recent version and they only wrote about the new Tahoe Beta as if 14.8 and 15.7 don't exist. There were also Ventura Betas or RCs released together with the first two 14.8 and 15.7 RCs.
The articles about the first two RCs of 15.7 were only copy and paste, it was a standard text mentioning release notes that don't exist. Very bad journalism here.

 
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It will be released with Safari 26 (what is still in Beta) when the final version of Tahoe is released. I can't say if other features are added. In the Sequoia 15.7 RCs there is nothing new if you don't install the Safari 26 Beta update. At least I haven't found anything.

RC3 was probably the security update, released two days earlier. But there must be any bug fixes in the first two ones or maybe it got just prepared for Safari 26. There are no release notes. Also no firmware files in the Developer downloads.
My three updates were all just called 15.7, I only remember the last one was much smaller and included security fixes in the text. No word about RC in any update .I thought it was already the final version.
I saw it later in an article here but only for 15.7 RC1 and 2, there was no word about a Sonoma 14.8 RC and 15.7 RC3 was also not mentioned when it got released only the first and second one.
Sequoia is the recent version and they only wrote about the new Tahoe Beta as if 14.8 and 15.7 don't exist. There were also Ventura Betas or RCs released together with the first two 14.8 and 15.7 RCs.
The articles about the first two RCs of 15.7 were only copy and paste, it was a standard text mentioning release notes that don't exist. Very bad journalism here.

Thank you for the info. I'll just wait until the final release comes out. I'm in a unique position here, where I don't need the latest version of macOS to do my daily tasks. my iMac officially supports Monterey as it's latest OS, and while some apps have dropped support, it's not major enough that I couldn't keep using it, especially since my main browser is Firefox, with Chrome as secondary, which are still currently supported under Monterey, and while Safari 17.6 works fine as well, Safari was never a browser I really trusted because of early compatibility with sites, I just never embraced it as my main browser, and had to use Firefox, or Chrome anyway. With that said, I finally decided on Sonoma as a reliable upgrade via Open core, but it really doesn't given me much over Monterey, even with the latest updates it supports.

There are times I would really like to treat macOS as I would an open source Unix / Linux OS, where I could just update the parts needed to run the latest software, without having to update the whole OS.

For what it's worth, Sonoma runs very well on this late 2015, 27" iMac. I just wish macOS was more modular as a whole, so I could only change the parts needed.

Edit: One thing I should add: I do like using Safari as a password generator for creating new accounts, the iCloud password generator is nice, and saving them into Keychain. Then I copy the passwords into Bitwarden, and Chrome, and Firefox for regular use.
 
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How do I force my OCLP/Sonoma machine to check for updates again? I go in to see and it says last checked for updates on 8/16 and it doesn't look like it's doing anything..
 
How do I force my OCLP/Sonoma machine to check for updates again? I go in to see and it says last checked for updates on 8/16 and it doesn't look like it's doing anything..
Well, I just went back to that window and I see it clocking on Checking for updates... Whenever it does that all it does is clock.. It never finishes. Very annoying I can't see any updates available. I wonder if I have to resort to doing a full USB installer of 14.7.8?...
 
How do I force my OCLP/Sonoma machine to check for updates again? I go in to see and it says last checked for updates on 8/16 and it doesn't look like it's doing anything..

In general, the GUI version of Software Update in macOS Sonoma is a real PITA, sluggish on the refresh, as per Mr Macintosh OCLP videos being explained. Especially for the dot updates for macOS Sonoma.

Well, I just went back to that window and I see it clocking on Checking for updates... Whenever it does that all it does is clock.. It never finishes. Very annoying I can't see any updates available. I wonder if I have to resort to doing a full USB installer of 14.7.8?...

Both GUI ways to update/upgrade take ages to refresh to the latest Release Version status.

Tip! Make yourself a cup of tea/coffee/beer and sit out the wait for the updates to reappear again. ;)
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The System Settings > General >> Software Update page will first be populated with the macOS Sonoma 14.7.8 release, later the macOS Sequoia 15.6.1 upgrade will be presented too.


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Good luck stretching your patients, enjoy your beverages and install your update.

NO need to re-create an USB again.

Cheers :cool:
 
Yeah I came back to it a few minutes ago and noticed it had populated. I think I clicked the Sonoma update and it sat for a bit then started downloading but it's downloading 13gb! is it downloading the whole thing? Pretty sure I didn't click on Sequoia update...
 
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