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Any opinions about the 20 watt adapter vs the 30 watt? At home, the 20 watt would be fine. If I ever travel again (I'm a dreamer!) the 30 watt would be nice.
I plan to have this on my night stand for now, with a charger that can also support a second USB-PD device (for say iPad usage while in bed).

I'll figure out once I can travel again whether I want a separate small 30W brick, or a single charger that can support both this and my MacBook at the same time.
 
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Blinky - we all can afford it. It's just not reasonable for many of us. Do you just like burning money? Doesn't seem very intelligent.
If the user sees value in it the cost isn’t a big deal

£350 for keyboard was damn expensive but for many was worth it
 
I'm a realtor and lender. Trust me when I tell you that people who make a lot of money don't give a **** about a few hundred bucks. It's easy to throw a few hundred around when you have basically no debt, and earn more in a month than you know what to do with...
In general, the more money people have, the tighter they are with it. Take a stroll around the 10, 11, 12, and 13 million dollar mansions in San Francisco...you won't see Ferraris or Lamborghinis, you'll see Toyotas and Volvos. My mom lives in St. Louis and is a volunteer docent for Emily Pulitzer's museum. She is a billionaire, and has wall-sized Monet paintings in her St. Louis pool house and Beethoven's original death mask on her coffee table, and she drives a semi-beat up Lexus. Look at the British royal family. Look at Gloria Vanderbilt. Blowing money is something the nouveaux riches and middle class do
 
These accessories are meant for iphones in general but sure you can use them for Android I never said you couldn't.
You argued how anyone finds MagSafe more convenient than lightning. I just gave you a reason.

And yes nobody NEEDS to have wireless charging capabilities when you can charge with a wire.

My uncle has early onset Parkinson's and he has trouble plugging in a lightning cable daily. Wireless is a necessity, but typical Qi chargers are picky with alignment. He NEEDS MagSafe.
 
I already own the Nomad 7.5watt, 3 in 1. Works very well. However, very slow to charge iPhone.

I like the Zens Modular Series...https://makezens.com/modular-series/

I will wait to get the Belkin BOOST↑CHARGE PRO MAGSAFE: https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-WIZ009/

I bought two MagSafe chargers. I think I am going to return my MagSafe charge. Just a pure gimmick. My wife will most likely keep hers. However, I will return it for the duo.
That looks like a nice one, from a reliable company.
 
I never realized just how petty this web site audience is! Everyone's anonymous and pretending to be rich. Rich people don't say "I'm rich", and they usually demand things for free. And there's no moderator to clean up this thread and block people who are he only to troll? What a joke!
 
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Not the cases, the actual MagSafe puck itself develops a yellowish color around the ring. Almost looks like a burn mark to me, I returned mine an Apple employee told me he’s seen many cases about this. I’m not hopeful Apple will officially ever admit to the quality issue so I’ll be on the lookout for other official third party MagSafe chargers because I really enjoyed the accessory, just not Apples implementation of it.
Huh.. That's strange.. We haven't had that issue.. Out of curiosity, what case are you using? Is the discoloration due to something you do? i.e. do you do work around dusty things that might make the case collect any sort of dirt or similar? Both the wife and I use leather cases -- blue and brown -- and we haven't seen that yet on either of our MagSafe pucks..
 
I never realized just how petty this web site audience is! Everyone's anonymous and pretending to be rich. Rich people don't say "I'm rich", and they usually demand things for free. And there's no moderator to clean up this thread and block people? What a joke!
I think there's a big difference between people with money and people that are just stupid crazy rich. I worked hard for my money. It wasn't given to me by a trust, or from my parents. I've gone through periods of being poor too. But, I've worked my ass off and I make a ton of money running a successful real estate and loan brokerage. I don't ask for free handouts -- ever. I pay my way through life, I pay my taxes (all of them), I pay my employees correctly and well.

I flaunt my wealth a bit more than I'd normally do since I'm a bit public. I need people to see that I'm successful.. Who the heck wants to work with a lender who doesn't have his own financial house in order? Who wants to work with a realtor who isn't successful? So, yeah, I flaunt a bit.

There's not a stereotypical "rich" in the same way as there's not a stereotypical "black" or "jewish" or whatever group you want to through someone into. Everyone is different.

I drive a Mercedes -- my wife drives a Honda minivan. I choose to spend money on Apple stuff because I enjoy it and that's how I reward myself for bringing home the bacon.

So, just because you or anyone else on here is jelly, and thinks, "Those rich ******s demand free ****!!" or "real rich people only drive Volvo's" realize that not everyone who has money thinks the same way you do.
 
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In general, the more money people have, the tighter they are with it. Take a stroll around the 10, 11, 12, and 13 million dollar mansions in San Francisco...you won't see Ferraris or Lamborghinis, you'll see Toyotas and Volvos. My mom lives in St. Louis and is a volunteer docent for Emily Pulitzer's museum. She is a billionaire, and has wall-sized Monet paintings in her St. Louis pool house and Beethoven's original death mask on her coffee table, and she drives a semi-beat up Lexus. Look at the British royal family. Look at Gloria Vanderbilt. Blowing money is something the nouveaux riches and middle class do
I work with people with money like that.. At least in California, they have fancy cars, nice houses, etc.. Fun fact, not everyone who has money spends their money the same way!
 
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This is the greatest thread ever!

With that being said, I can't wait to get one, go out in public, flip it open and then watch all the ladies rush over to offer up "favors" to me....

I will be getting one of these though. Like the "wallet" they introduced first, this is really a travel accessory and is invaluable when you travel a lot! And you don't NEED a brick when traveling. This is the PERFECT accessory to plug into my laptop and charge both my phone and watch either while I'm working or during the night.

One cable and one foldable charger fo both my iPhone and Watch? Yes, please!
 
I never realized just how petty this web site audience is! Everyone's anonymous and pretending to be rich. Rich people don't say "I'm rich", and they usually demand things for free. And there's no moderator to clean up this thread and block people who are he only to troll? What a joke!
Like a dude a while back who reviewed an iMac, posing it on his BMW or whatever.
 
I think there's a big difference between people with money and people that are just stupid crazy rich. I worked hard for my money. It wasn't given to me by a trust, or from my parents. I've gone through periods of being poor too. But, I've worked my ass off and I make a ton of money running a successful real estate and loan brokerage. I don't ask for free handouts -- ever. I pay my way through life, I pay my taxes (all of them), I pay my employees correctly and well.

I flaunt my wealth a bit more than I'd normally do since I'm a bit public. I need people to see that I'm successful.. Who the heck wants to work with a lender who doesn't have his own financial house in order? Who wants to work with a realtor who isn't successful? So, yeah, I flaunt a bit.

There's not a stereotypical "rich" in the same way as there's not a stereotypical "black" or "jewish" or whatever group you want to through someone into. Everyone is different.

I drive a Mercedes -- my wife drives a Honda minivan. I choose to spend money on Apple stuff because I enjoy it and that's how I reward myself for bringing home the bacon.

So, just because you or anyone else on here is jelly, and thinks, "Those rich ******s demand free ****!!" or "real rich people only drive Volvo's" realize that not everyone who has money thinks the same way you do.
I'm not necessarily talking about you. Most of your posts look semi-civil. I don't know why you would think I'm "jelly" (who uses that word?) because I've pointed out how GAUCHE people are being. Most celebrities (I wouldn't classify you as one) demand things for free, it's old news. In fact, I doubt anyone truly rich would be on this website talking about minor accessories at all. I live in the most expensive city in the country and my rent is the same as 3 or 4 mortgages for most people. If you've ever spent any time in a boarding school, you would know that there is definitely a stereotypical rich. Also, there's no apostrophe in the plural of Volvo...you just add an s. But I challenge you today to seek out the most exclusive country club in your city and take a peak in the parking lot. You will see a lot of old, well-taken-care-of European cars.
 
This is the greatest thread ever!

With that being said, I can't wait to get one, go out in public, flip it open and then watch all the ladies rush over to offer up "favors" to me....

I change my mind, definitely getting one now. Not sure if my wife will be too happy though.
 
You argued how anyone finds MagSafe more convenient than lightning. I just gave you a reason.



My uncle has early onset Parkinson's and he has trouble plugging in a lightning cable daily. Wireless is a necessity, but typical Qi chargers are picky with alignment. He NEEDS MagSafe.
He doesn't need magsafe he NEEDS a qi wireless charger. Magsafe isn't even truly wireless you have to physically remove it because it's a magnet and if you just yank it off it can end up flying around. A non magnet wireless chargers would suit his and most people needs better.
 
Any opinions about the 20 watt adapter vs the 30 watt? At home, the 20 watt would be fine. If I ever travel again (I'm a dreamer!) the 30 watt would be nice.
From what I can tell, it’s really not that big of a difference. If I were you, I would just stick with the 20 W.
Either way, it doesn’t really matter,
since this thing is connected by lightning. during the night, it doesn’t really matter how fast it charges.
And if you really, really need a quick boost, just unplug the lightning cable from the duo, and plug it into your phone. That’s my plan.
If I’m traveling, usually my phone last me the entire day, then when I’m going to bed, I’ll drop it on the duo with my watch, and both will be charged by the morning.
But if it’s getting late, and I still have plans for the day, and my phones getting low, I just unplug that lightning cable, plug it into my phone, and boom!
 
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He doesn't need magsafe he NEEDS a qi wireless charger. Magsafe isn't even truly wireless you have to physically remove it because it's a magnet and if you just yank it off it can end up flying around. A non magnet wireless chargers would suit his and most people needs better.
No. It sounds like you've never used Qi on a daily basis.

He's used a few Qi wireless chargers and he couldn't get the alignment of the phone right which caused the phone to not charge over night many times (a common problem every Qi user has encountered at least once, including me). MagSafe guarantees alignment and therefore guarantees the phone will be charged every single time he places the phone on the charger. He just pulls the phone with one hand and the MagSafe slides out easy.

The previous wireless charger he used was a Mophie vertical stand where he lets gravity do the alignment. However, he's knocked over the stand many times by accident when placing/grabbing the phone. He *needs* MagSafe. Unless you have Parkinson's yourself, I don't see how you can argue that he doesn't need it.

Whether or not MagSafe is *wireless* is an entirely separate argument.

Regardless, your earlier argument said "And yes nobody NEEDS to have wireless charging capabilities", but you just said he needs a non magnet wireless charger. I think we've concluded this argument.
 
No. It sounds like you've never used Qi on a daily basis.

He's used a few Qi wireless chargers and he couldn't get the alignment of the phone right which caused the phone to not charge over night many times (a common problem every Qi user has encountered at least once, including me). MagSafe guarantees alignment and therefore guarantees the phone will be charged every single time he places the phone on the charger. He just pulls the phone with one hand and the MagSafe slides out easy.

The previous wireless charger he used was a Mophie vertical stand where he lets gravity do the alignment. However, he's knocked over the stand many times by accident when placing/grabbing the phone. He *needs* MagSafe. Unless you have Parkinson's yourself, I don't see how you can argue that he doesn't need it.

Whether or not MagSafe is *wireless* is an entirely separate argument.

Regardless, your earlier argument said "And yes nobody NEEDS to have wireless charging capabilities", but you just said he needs a non magnet wireless charger. I think we've concluded this argument.
Had this issue several times overnight with my belkin charger

MagSafe fixes this issue for me
 
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No. It sounds like you've never used Qi on a daily basis.

He's used a few Qi wireless chargers and he couldn't get the alignment of the phone right which caused the phone to not charge over night many times (a common problem every Qi user has encountered at least once, including me). MagSafe guarantees alignment and therefore guarantees the phone will be charged every single time he places the phone on the charger. He just pulls the phone with one hand and the MagSafe slides out easy.

The previous wireless charger he used was a Mophie vertical stand where he lets gravity do the alignment. However, he's knocked over the stand many times by accident when placing/grabbing the phone. He *needs* MagSafe. Unless you have Parkinson's yourself, I don't see how you can argue that he doesn't need it.

Whether or not MagSafe is *wireless* is an entirely separate argument.

Regardless, your earlier argument said "And yes nobody NEEDS to have wireless charging capabilities", but you just said he needs a non magnet wireless charger. I think we've concluded this argument.
This article isn't even about Magsafe but fine for those with Parkinsons I guess magsafe is a must then. Not sure how they've been charging their phones up until now but looks like they're are good now.

So can I safely say the 99.7% of people without parkinson's don't need magsafe or this over priced dual charger?
 
This article isn't even about Magsafe but fine for those with Parkinsons I guess magsafe is a must then. Not sure how they've been charging their phones up until now but looks like they're are good now.

So can I safely say the 99.7% of people without parkinson's don't need magsafe or this over priced dual charger?

Do 99.7% of people need 4k/60 Dolby vision HDR video recording? No. Just record in 480p.
Do 99.7% of people need OLED? No. Let's just use the less expensive LCD.
Do 99.7% of people need a Pro Max sized display? No. Let's just have all future iPhones be the size of the iPhone mini.
Do 99.7% of people need the included Lightning to USB-C cable? No. Let's just stick with USB-A forever.
Do 99.7% of people need an iPhone 12/11/Xs/X at all? No. Just get the iPhone SE.

Really, the argument in terms of what most people "need" is ridiculous. Plenty of people probably don't "need" a smart phone at all and can live with a flip phone. Most people don't need Apple as they can function on Windows and Blackberry devices.
 
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From what I can tell, it’s really not that big of a difference. If I were you, I would just stick with the 20 W.
Either way, it doesn’t really matter,
since this thing is connected by lightning. during the night, it doesn’t really matter how fast it charges.
And if you really, really need a quick boost, just unplug the lightning cable from the duo, and plug it into your phone. That’s my plan.
If I’m traveling, usually my phone last me the entire day, then when I’m going to bed, I’ll drop it on the duo with my watch, and both will be charged by the morning.
But if it’s getting late, and I still have plans for the day, and my phones getting low, I just unplug that lightning cable, plug it into my phone, and boom

You just landed on the single biggest advantage to this device. It’s dual purpose. You can fast charge or wireless convenience charge (without having to worry about missing the target) on the same brick and cable. It’s kind of nice.
 
So this charges at 11W with the 20W adapter, but what if I plug it into an existing 18W adapter? It'll just be charging while I sleep, so I'm not going to buy another $20 adapter just to charge a little faster lol

Edit: I just investigated and it looks like it can get up to 14W with a 27W or higher adapter. I have a 29W, nice.
 
So this charges at 11W with the 20W adapter, but what if I plug it into an existing 18W adapter? It'll just be charging while I sleep, so I'm not going to buy another $20 adapter just to charge a little faster lol

Edit: I just investigated and it looks like it can get up to 14W with a 27W or higher adapter. I have a 29W, nice.
I was wondering about this too, but its not a deal breaker for me. My Nomad base charger was 7.5 watts so switching to the 20 watt adapter its still faster than my previous charger. Either way, I use it to charge overnight so nbd.
 
You just landed on the single biggest advantage to this device. It’s dual purpose. You can fast charge or wireless convenience charge (without having to worry about missing the target) on the same brick and cable. It’s kind of nice.
Exactly.
and all the people hemming and hawing over the fact that it only gets up to 11 or 14W clearly have never used the original magsafe that gets up to 15W.
From Apple’s tech specks: “The MagSafe Charger makes wireless charging a snap. The perfectly aligned magnets attach to your iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Pro and provide faster wireless charging ”*up to*” 15W.”
Up to 15W.
I’ve used the original magsafe, and it rarely actually reaches 15W.
If your phone is cool, the MagSafe is cool, and your phone is at super low battery, then it might peek at 15W.
The second that your phone or the charger itself starts to heat up, it immediately lowers to somewhere between 9 and 13 W.
If you’re using your phone while it’s charging, and it heats up even more, then the charging speed will get lower and lower.
One day, when I didn’t have Wi-Fi at my house, and my phone was running off of extremely weak 5G, The battery absolutely drained in just a couple hours. I dropped it on the magsafe, and I was using it while it was charging, and the phone was extremely hot, and the battery was actually draining while on the charger.
So 15W peak performance really means nothing on an average day.
With this, if I’m just charging my phone and I’m not planning on using it very heavily, then I can just drop it on the duo with the 20W adapter.
If I absolutely need power and I need it now, I just unplug the lightning cable from the duo, and plug it into my phone, and I’m on my way.
At least now I don’t have to deal with the Apple Watch charger separately, which I’m always losing, and which I have to have an entirely separate brick for since I didn’t buy a USB-C to Apple Watch puck.
 
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