I have no use for it. Others may. I have a Qi charger on my nightstand. I have no problems with it. I never accidentally hit it or move it when it’s on my nightstand. It’s good enough for overnight charging.
Yeah because this thread is all about how much I dislike the iPhone 12. Your statement is akin to saying "You don't like Apple's leather case so when are you taking your iPhone back?"
I don't have to use MagSafe, and I don't have to like it. I was simply starting a thread sharing my opinion on it. It has zero to do with my like or dislike for the iPhone 12, which I think is a fantastic iPhone.
Return. The. 12.
You are very unhappy. You must punish Apple and be a man of principle. Post the receipt when it’s done.
Now imagine for a moment if government didn't tell businesses how to run their business. Was it really so bad to just let Apple keep going with the lightning cable? What a weird concept capitalism is. I think your anger is misplaced.I'm sorry, I've tried to love this product, and then I even tried to just like it, but its just absolutely terrible. Apple has effectively ruined wireless charging in their new devices all in the name of keeping things proprietary for them to keep the cash rolling in. Its is such a poorly done product that makes absolutely zero sense outside of Apple screwing over both the consumer, and manufacturers of Qi charging products.
I watched an interesting video on YouTube (SnazzyLabs) who theorized that Apple made MagSafe because they refuse to comply with the EU's new law that states that all manufacturers must now use the same chargers (USB-C). Apple will be forced after this year to make all of their phones with a standard USB-C charging cable. Well that would be a huge loss of income for Apple due to the fact that the lightning cable and 3rd party MFI (Made for iPhone) lightning cables is a billion dollar industry. Apple makes $4 for every single lightning cable sold in the world with the MFI logo on them. That is a massive amount of money lost if they had to comply to this new law in Europe. So to get around this law, they are going to make a portless phone that only charges with Magsafe next year. 3rd party Manufacturers will have to comply to Apple's standards and have the MFI logo put on any MagSafe alternatives to wirelessly charging, which keeps the cash in Apple's hands. I realize this is a business but they are forcing manufacturers to comply to a new standard of wireless charging while also making us as the consumer buy new wireless chargers if we want to get the full benefit out of them.
The other reason I hate Magsafe is that its crippled all of my other wireless chargers. Apple purposely made its new iPhones only capable of charging at a VERY low wattage on standard Qi charging pads. This is obviously done to push people to use MagSafe, or to buy the new wireless chargers that will have the (MFI) logo on them that comply to Apple's new wireless charging standards. My wireless chargers charge my iPhone 12 max so slowly now that its not really worth using them if I need to get a quick charge in.
Outside of those reasons above, I don't like it becuase its the same as using a cable, it heats up your phone way to much, the cord is too short, the cord gets in the way if not pointed directly down, it damages Apple's expensive leather case, and to me its a completely pointless accessory that Apple is shoving on us because they refuse to make a standard USB-C charging cable for their phones.
I'm sorry for the rant but I had to get that out.
Now imagine for a moment if government didn't tell businesses how to run their business. Was it really so bad to just let Apple keep going with the lightning cable? What a weird concept capitalism is. I think your anger is misplaced.
Yeah this post is more consistent to facts than that the OP wrote. Thanks!I get that you don't like Magsafe, it ain't for everybody, but I think you have made some factual errors here.
- You say "Apple purposely made new iPhones only capable of charging at a VERY low wattage standard QI charging pads.":
This is not true in my experience. I've measured my cheap YooTech chargers with a USB-C wattage tester, and I'm getting the exact same results with my wife's old iPhone XS (7.5w) as I am with her new phone (7.5w). You could argue that 7.5w max is a slow charging rate for sure, but it isn't anything new. As has been reported here, some QI chargers don't like the new Magsafe ring my guess is there are two things going on:
- I think different dimensions could be a contributing factor to some problems. Different coil alignment. Your Pro Max for example may be too high, or the mini too short to align properly with the coils on an easel style charger?
- I suspect foreign object detection may be causing issues as well. Some pads have more aggressive foreign object detection than others. On my old iPhone XS Max, I had problems with a Pitaka mag-case for the same reason. My Pixel 4XL with a metal plate mounted under the coils also cause issues on some chargers, but not all. Every single QI charger I have in my house from years of playing with android work just fine with my iPhone 12. Hell, even the crappy "gift" one United Airlines sent me that refused to charge my Pixel 4XL works fine!
- You say "My wireless chargers charge my iPhone 12 max so slowly now that its not really worth using them if I need to get a quick charge in.":
I'd agree. Quick-charging simply isn't a strength of standard QI chargers. Arguably if Apple would support the standard 15w QI charging protocol it would be a bit better. Fundamentally though, wireless charging is lossy and generates heat. Yes, some phone manufacturers now use proprietary methods for attaining higher wireless charging, but these also come with lots of heat and often the need for a cooling fan in the charger. If you need a quick top-off, a cable will always be better.- You say "to me its a completely pointless accessory that apple is shoving on us.":
Accessories are by definition optional. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It isn't "shoved" on anyone. Furthermore, I happen to think the simple addition of a ring of magnets improves wireless charging. Most notably, it is the first phone I've had since the Nexus 5, where magnets help to align to the optimal charging location every single time. Alignment has always been the most annoying thing about wireless charging. Furthermore, I love the fact that now magnetic car mounts will be standardized... we can finally do away with sticking metal plates on our cases, or figuring out exactly where to mount a magnetic metal ring on the back of the phone etc.
I already love my MagSafe and am not too concerned with charging speed. I’ve put a metal plate on the back of one, and it is a strong hold for my magnetic dash mount. There’s no wobble and my phone didn’t fall off when I hit a few potholes and train tracks.When Magsafe wireless chargers and cases come out. We will change our mind and love them.
The complaint is how it works with other chargers and I agree with the original posting that it is hit and miss. Two of my wireless chargers don’t work with it and I don’t want to spend money on a MagSafe.I already love my MagSafe and am not too concerned with charging speed. I’ve put a metal plate on the back of one, and it is a strong hold for my magnetic dash mount. There’s no wobble and my phone didn’t fall off when I hit a few potholes and train tracks.
I agree that my other Qi chargers are flakey with my 12 PM, actually more than flakey, which is why I bought the MagSafe. Both of my Qi chargers are single coil and never fast charged, I believe that Qi only offers up to 7.5w charging with iPhones. With the new height of the 12 PM, I suspect it’s more that the Qi coils aren’t aligned completely with my new phone. I can’t fault anyone for that as I made the choice to buy the larger phone. However, I do recognize that there are two coil Qi chargers out there that will probably work better, but liked the idea of the automatic alignment that MagSafe offered and the convenience of using the charger on the go with a portable battery pack.The complaint is how it works with other chargers and I agree with the original posting that it is hit and miss. Two of my wireless chargers don’t work with it and I don’t want to spend money on a MagSafe.
I agree that my other Qi chargers are flakey with my 12 PM, actually more than flakey, which is why I bought the MagSafe. Both of my Qi chargers are single coil and never fast charged, I believe that Qi only offers up to 7.5w charging with iPhones. With the new height of the 12 PM, I suspect it’s more that the Qi coils aren’t aligned completely with my new phone. I can’t fault anyone for that as I made the choice to buy the larger phone. However, I do recognize that there are two coil Qi chargers out there that will probably work better, but liked the idea of the automatic alignment that MagSafe offered and the convenience of using the charger on the go with a portable battery pack.
The lack of official MagSafe 3rd party accessories is quite baffling. I don't know why more companies couldn't have worked with Apple to have them ready by now. For example I know of no dash mount with MagSafe.
Ok, I understand now. My Qi chargers are upright which way why I thought that it wasn’t aligning properly. I have a wireless Qi that I placed my phone on, and it works without shutting off after 20 minutes charging. It’s definitely frustrating then that Qi charging is such a hit or miss now with the iPhone 12 PMs.I don't think it has anything to do with the size of the 12 Pro Max. I have a Mophie adjustable wireless charger that you can slide to use as both a vertical iPhone charger or fold it flat with and use it by laying the phone on top of it. When I place the phone on the charger, it doesn't matter if the charger is vertical or flat. The phone will start to charge for a few seconds and then the light on charger starts to blink and the phone stops charging. Its not the size of the phone causing this as I can lay it flat on top of the charger and no matter where I place it, it only charges for a few seconds before it stops.
This is 100% due to MagSafe causing it to not work.
Ok, I understand now. My Qi chargers are upright which way why I thought that it wasn’t aligning properly. I have a wireless Qi that I placed my phone on, and it works without shutting off after 20 minutes charging. It’s definitely frustrating then that Qi charging is such a hit or miss now with the iPhone 12 PMs.
Just an fyi - my vertical stands are two coil and work fine with my 12PM.
That said, I am keeping my fingers crossed. 🤞
Can you let me know which ones you use? I'm in need of a compatible one.