I understand people like magsafe. I want a charger that I can just lay my phone and pick it up, one handed. If I am going to play with wires, I might as well just plug it in.
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MagSafe is the worst thing Apple has made maybe ever
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So you have 3 options:
Forget about MagSafe. There are plenty of other Qi chargers available.
Buy one and stick it down where you want it.
Wait for a heavier version that stays put when you lift your phone.
Forget about MagSafe. There are plenty of other Qi chargers available.
Buy one and stick it down where you want it.
Wait for a heavier version that stays put when you lift your phone.
Would be interesting to see how much apple really makes on lightening. With what we pay for phones today, another 20 to not have the worthless lightening port would be great. Then we can get USB-C headphones as well and call it a day on this out of date tech.
I actually enjoy MagSafe. Sure, it’s not Mag”Safe” as it’ll just pull your phone to the floor with it, but I appreciate that it’s a wireless charger that I can hold in my hand with my phone. I haven’t plugged my phone into the lightning port in a very long time, with the exception of reinstalling iOS via Mac so it’ll be interesting to see how they do that if/when they go port-free. Back to MagSafe... I always just throw my phone onto the wireless charger at my desk and hate that it’s constantly stopping and starting as I pick it up and put it down. The MagSafe puck is small enough to comfortably fit in my hand so I can use the phone and it’s still charging. Sure, it’s not perfect, nothing ever is, but I think it’s useful. It’s a step towards something else, every new thing always has it’s benefits and faults. Now it’s up to Apple to improve what everyone is complaining about and continue building on it. I see MagSafe as a first gen product for the iPhone... I see it getting better over time with more use cases.
No, your anger towards MagSafe should be directed where it should be- at you.
If you didn't want the feature and didn't want to risk incompatibility with your existing wireless chargers, you shouldn't have bought an iPhone 12. Apple makes several iPhones without MagSafe.
Thank you for your thoughtful insights. No where was it ever mentioned that the iPhone 12 would no longer work with certain wireless chargers, especially since these particular wireless chargers were purchased from the Apple store less than 1 year ago. I do fault myself for not being able to to see the future and knowing that when I purchased the iPhone 12 Pro Max that incompatibility would ensue. For that, I am looking inward to be a better predictor of things that will happen in the future so that I am better prepared and wont' have to deal with such things.
Again I thank you for your help here in guiding me.
Apple has a generous return policy and a return window you have been in since discovering Apple’s enormous mistake that has inconvenienced you so horrifically.
Return your iPhone 12 right now. Or shhh.
Facts. This is spot on. Most of the mag safe chargers aren't wireless. They're wires with a magnet instead of a plug. You can't just set it and forget it on something that acts as a fixture on your end table.
Adding insult in injury, the 20W brick won't charge 15 watts faux wirelessly either, you have to buy an even more expensive one for several of the options.
Adding insult in injury, the 20W brick won't charge 15 watts faux wirelessly either, you have to buy an even more expensive one for several of the options.
You should request your username be changed to AppleSheep.
The MagSafe Charger Is annoying. Not the magnet in the phone. Doesnt matter. I returned both.
I guess it doesn't matter anymore, but I'm curious what specifically is annoying about the MagSafe Charger?
Some strange nonsense in the OP. They did not slow down how fast iPhone charges on Qi. Many tests prove iPhone 12 models charge as fast as iPhone 11 when using Qi. iPhone 12 models just charge even faster with MagSafe charging.
Also, the EU thing ain’t it. Apple has simply added a dongle to the box in Europe before when they were required to offer a standardized port (micro USB at the time). That’s all they’d do if needed. They’ve changed iPad to USB C - they aren’t afraid of it.
MagSafe is optional and didn’t do anything at all to your Qi experience on iPhone. And frankly, Qi is very inefficient so it’s about time phone makers get smarter about the power waste and amount of heat that fast Qi chargers were leading to.
Also, the EU thing ain’t it. Apple has simply added a dongle to the box in Europe before when they were required to offer a standardized port (micro USB at the time). That’s all they’d do if needed. They’ve changed iPad to USB C - they aren’t afraid of it.
MagSafe is optional and didn’t do anything at all to your Qi experience on iPhone. And frankly, Qi is very inefficient so it’s about time phone makers get smarter about the power waste and amount of heat that fast Qi chargers were leading to.
None of what you said was accurate. Many Qi chargers won't work anymore at all due to Magsafe. I should know, the ones I purchased from Apple less than a year ago no longer work and many others in this thread have reported the same about their chargers.
Also, what you are claiming about the EU isn't correct. Apple wouldn't have to option of adding a dongle to the phone. The ruling would require the physical port on the phone to be USB-C. A dongle wouldn't suffice.
Uh, Magsafe is Qi charging, and no more efficient than any other Qi charger. And you obviously havne't used MagSafe or you'd know that it heats up your iPhone significantly more than other Qi chargers.
They've literally already dealt with this in the EU before. They just added a dongle in the box there as a compromise with the courts on the ruling. The ruling doesn't call for a dongle, but the dongle was an accepted appeal that is granted for Apple due to burden. And frankly, we've already heard many times they are just getting rid of the ports long term anyway. Sorry but iPhone 12 models do work with Qi - they work fine on the docks around my house and end up full every time for me. Many of the people claiming it doesn't work also admit that it works if they align the phone better on their stand or docks.
MagSafe is not Qi charging. A Qi charger cannot charge an iPhone or any other Qi device at the same speed as MagSafe - they use the same coil, but MagSafe includes additional parts like an NFC chip that indicates to iPhone to attempt to charge at higher speeds and it will not offer this to any other Qi devices. I have a MagSafe charger and a MagSafe case. It generates heat, but 15W chargers that are Qi generate so much heat they also need fans built into the charger. MagSafe was built to avoid this issue with efficient placement, but wireless is inherently inefficient if comparing to wired. MagSafe is faster than Qi on iPhone, and MagSafe is more efficient than equivalent Qi speeds on other phones for heat and power transfer.
That was back in 2009. The ruling could play out that Apple would not be allowed to put a dongle in the box. And that wasn't my theory at all regarding why they went to MagSafe, I was just sharing what someone else had said regarding why they thought they did it. I do agree with what they said though.
And you can disagree all you want, but MagSafe DOES render some Qi wireless chargers inoperable. Its not debatable, it is fact. I don't care if all of the ones in your house work perfectly. On some it doesn't allow them to be used anymore. You can come back and disagree with me, but you will be wrong.
And call MagSafe whatever you want, whether or not its Qi charging doesn't really matter to me. MagSafe is only faster than regular Qi charging because Apple makes it that way. Not only to do they make it that way, they specifically require you to buy a certain charger to get that faster speed, even though you really shouldn't have to. Its not some revolutionary type of charging that charges phones faster than regular Qi chargers. Apple simply makes it that way.
And I would like to see data you have showing that MagSafe is more efficient than equivalent Qi speeds on other phones for heat and power. I'm serious, I haven't seen that so if you have it I would like to know about it as that does matter. Its not going to change my mind on my dislike of the product but it would be good to know.
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If you bought the right iPhone all your Qi chargers would work perfectly. That is not debatable. That is a fact.
Apple didn’t do anything wrong. You did.
Ah, I see. Perhaps Apple should tell the consumer that their phone would render some Qi chargers unusable. I realize that its my mistake of not understanding that when Apple said the iPhone 12 was Qi compatible, they really meant "Its compatible with some Qi chargers, not all of them, even ones your purchased from us."
You are correct that it is my fault that even though Apple never mentioned this, I should have known this anyway. Before ordering the iPhone 12 I should have thrown out my Mophie chargers I purchased less than a year ago from the Apple store because I should have known they wouldn't work anymore because of "reasons."
Thank you again for letting me know of my mistakes. 🤣 🤣 🤣
OP .... we get your dislike of MagSafe ...... you have yourself a long thread and a few days of fame but why do you feel the need to sarcastically rubbish anyone who disagrees with you ? ....... some like MagSafe (I do) some don't (you are one) ...... isn't this a discussion forum ? ..... why not respectfully discuss the pro's and con's and accept that others may have a different view or experience to you ?
Out of interest when you purchased your chargers last year I guess they were compatible with the current iPhone and/or the model you had at the time ? ...... was there anything in the spec that said the charger would be forward compatible ? (I apologise if you have covered this I haven't read this thread line by line)
Out of interest when you purchased your chargers last year I guess they were compatible with the current iPhone and/or the model you had at the time ? ...... was there anything in the spec that said the charger would be forward compatible ? (I apologise if you have covered this I haven't read this thread line by line)
Please tell me and show me where I've rubbished someone's opinion who disagrees with me.
And to your point, this was never about 3rd party Qi chargers in the first place. A certain member in here keeps telling me to return my iPhone 12 Pro Max when I never indicated that I was unhappy with the device. I expressed dislike for MagSafe and the fact that it did render some chargers unusable and that is all. I'm willing to buy another charger, but that doesn't mean I have to return my iPhone 12 like this person was saying, nor does it mean its my fault that my chargers no longer work like this person is claiming.
And if you look in this forum section, there is an entire thread dedicated to 3rd party chargers that no longer work. Its not the chargers, its Apple new implementation of wireless charging on their devices. Again, I'm willing to buy new ones but I have every right to express disappointment in that and also have every right to "rubbish" and disagree with someone who insistently tells me that this is my fault and that I should return my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
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@LongWayHome - at this point I would just ignore your "fan". Maybe he(?) will go away.
Hey so I have a question...if the future of iPhones is port less only what are people (or car companies) that use CarPlay going to do? For example my wife’s current car 2020 Subaru has CarPlay installed that you plug in your phone via a usb to lightning...I see lots of people who update their phones on a yearly basis but I have no intentions of getting rid of a new car because it doesn’t conform with the new port free phones. I get transportation is not meant to be an apple device but it is a nice feature.