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My only Intels are a 2006 Macbook Pro CD and a 2006 iMac CD - both 32bit machines, thus far, I've had no issues running software and browsing.
These 2006 models can be had at bargain prices, often level or less than PPC prices - I've yet to see anything past 2008 that looks like a bargain.
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My first new Mac was the 2002 G4 iMac - nothing I've bought since matched the care and attention in that packaging...with the exception of some high end Nokia phones around 2005 - that packaging was art.
These 2006 models can be had at bargain prices, often level or less than PPC prices - I've yet to see anything past 2008 that looks like a bargain.
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My first new Mac was the 2002 G4 iMac - nothing I've bought since matched the care and attention in that packaging...with the exception of some high end Nokia phones around 2005 - that packaging was art.
Actually I thought the multiple use of "Dude" was funny. Probably should have added a
I was reminded of the Jack Nicholson lawyer character in Easy Rider (1969).
He was wondering what "Dude" meant when the Dennis Hopper biker character called him one
(in a positive way in that particular case).
Bargain isn't a defined amount - depends on a persons circumstances.
The Nvidia MCP machines are IMO the sweet spot of value for money and performance/features.
The Nvidia MCP machines are IMO the sweet spot of value for money and performance/features.
In this case, it's defined by the context of this forum - PowerPC Macs - generally sub £100 purchases.
With ref to the G4 iMac packaging, I totaly agree! It was as well designed and 'engineered' as the iMac itself.
And in the book 'Jony Ive - The Genius Behind Apple's Greatest Products' (imho a MUST read) there is a photo of the iMac G4 box with a comment to the affect that when seen within it's packing, for a joke, the team designed the inside to look like male genitals!
And with ref to 2008+ Intel models at bargain prices, they can be found......with patience.
I had an Intel Core 2 Duo white polycarbonate MacBook, (same form factor & specs as the black model). It was in pretty good condition, but ran hot, so I opened it up to clean the fan (boy, didn't it need it!) and re-apply thermal paste.
The worst aspect on those polycarbonate models was the difficulty to remove the top case, due to very flimsy clips underneath which would easily fracture. NOT a nice laptop to work on, and when the screen was closed, the ridges on the left & right sides near the front edge would wear and crack the mating surface either side of the trackpad top cover - effectively a design fault. After my refurbish it ran ok.
Most of my Macs are 'keepers', but this model didn't excite me (especially compared to many of my PPC's). Disenchanted, I kept it for about 6 months, and sold it. No regrets! But I did like the 13.3" form factor, and looked around for a similar, better replacement.
I knew I'd prefer the later 'Unibody' Macbook, but it had to be the last model in the line MacBook7.1 (A1342) with faster 2.4GHz processor & superior NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics chipset. But CAUTION! I was aware that even this model had it's design faults, (i) many suffered from cracking - sometimes only micro-cracks either side of the screen hinges on the rear edge and (ii) delamination of the rubber cover on the base of the laptop. Many but not all were rectified under AppleCare warranty. Another problem, the 2.4GHz model is not the easiest to find; the A1342 also comes with a 2.26Ghz processor (MacBook6.1) with inferior NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics - which didn't interest me.
Finally after checking out several 2.4 GHz models, I found one in superb condition. The young lady had it advertised at a "couldn't resist" price. When I went to purchase, I found she had just attempted to delete her personal data, and in so doing had completely wiped the HD. Obviously it wouldn't boot, she had no backup, and no original Snow Leopard disk. I offered 20euros less, and she accepted. A few day's later after partitioning the HD, I installed OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) and 10.12 (Sierra). For my needs I far prefer Mountain Lion, and even with a fairly modest 4GB of memory (it will accept 16Gb) this Intel MacBook has now become one of my firm favourites, as the display on these is truly superb!
In summary, for someone looking for an Intel based book, don't bother with the white (or black) polycarbonate models, as with a little patience one can find a late Unibody for a similar price. In fact I paid less for this A1342 2.4GHz model as I did for the A1181 2.1GHz pre-Unibody last year.
For those interested, later today I'll take a few photos of this relatively unknown, under-estimated model.
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2008/2009 Nvidia chipset MacBooks are typically making around £120. Mac mini's under the magic £100. Really worth quibbling about £20?
The cheapest fully functioning (except battery) 2008 Macbook Pro on ebay BIN right now is £180 inc postage. I'm not quibbling, I'm simply basing on my experience - every C2D book I've bid on went beyond £150. Having said that, I haven't gone after one for 3 months.
I can't afford those!
I have no clue how to do this logic board stuff. Last time I tried to open a Mac for something, I completely broke the case, optical drive, screen, etc...
Roccat uses the same rendering engine as Safari 6, so I think Waterfox or Firefox would be my choice of browser.
Thanks for all this. I'll take it into consideration. Only problem is that the look of the BlackBook is my main reason for getting it!
As for the side note, I don't think he was trying to help if he didn't expect me to listen.
Not with Macs. Of course I need to try that 120Hz display on the new iPad soon!
That's too bad. Stuck with FF or TenSixFox (if it comes out) then on 10.6.8.
I'll do a dual boot between 10.6.8 and 10.8.5 and see which one fits my needs better. Like I said though; I dislike all versions of OS X after SL.
Good to hear as
I can't afford those!
I have no clue how to do this logic board stuff. Last time I tried to open a Mac for something, I completely broke the case, optical drive, screen, etc...
Roccat uses the same rendering engine as Safari 6, so I think Waterfox or Firefox would be my choice of browser.
Thanks for all this. I'll take it into consideration. Only problem is that the look of the BlackBook is my main reason for getting it!
As for the side note, I don't think he was trying to help if he didn't expect me to listen.
Not with Macs. Of course I need to try that 120Hz display on the new iPad soon!
That's too bad. Stuck with FF or TenSixFox (if it comes out) then on 10.6.8.
I'll do a dual boot between 10.6.8 and 10.8.5 and see which one fits my needs better. Like I said though; I dislike all versions of OS X after SL.
Good to hear as
Watch my video "OS X El Capitan Unsupported Macs"
When I was growing up, I was always told I was part of Generation Y.
Apparently Gen Y is now what's called the "millenials." I have to admit that I'm triggered by being called a millenial
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Do you have a link? I'm interested in seeing it
I hear you. I'm pretty solidly in Gen-X. My wife would be in the first year of the generation (1965).When I was growing up, I was always told I was part of Generation Y.
Apparently Gen Y is now what's called the "millenials." I have to admit that I'm triggered by being called a millenial
A lot of people classify former President Obama as the first Gen-X president. I disagree because he's more consistant with being a Boomer and certain classifications place him at the tail end of that generation.
Honestly, I'm okay with millenials. I've worked with several of them and they are decent people. There's one or two I'd never care to speak to again but all in all I like them.
Boomers tend to be the inverse for me though. I've met a few good ones, but most of them seem to typify the Gen-X characterization of them.
It's funny because I don't fall into the Generation I should have. My parents are part of the Silent Generation. My dad was born in 1935 and my mom was born in 1942. I wasn't born until 1970, but it's possible I COULD have been born as early as 1960. They would have made me a Boomer.
There are very few Gen-X'ers that have Silent Generation parents. Most parents of Gen-X'ers are Boomers.
And it's repeated itself, because our kids could have been Millenials, but we waited so long to have our kids that they are Generation Z or however that falls out.
When I was growing up, I was always told I was part of Generation Y.
Apparently Gen Y is now what's called the "millenials." I have to admit that I'm triggered by being called a millenial
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Do you have a link? I'm interested in seeing it
Don't judge too badly, it was very rushed. I'm looking to redo the video soon with a friends 08 MacBook but they keep cancelling.
Where does that put my wife and I and our kids then?
I was raised by the Silent Generation and exhibit much of the values of that generation and the generation that raised them (WWII Generation). Much more of those values than those commonly attributed to Gen-X.
My wife was raised by a Boomer but is 180º most of the time from her mother. She holds most of the values I do.
Both of our children being raised by us (Gen Z) are thus being raised with the values of the Silent Generation and not necessarily those of Gen-X. They do show characteristics of their own generation but a lot of what we have imparted to them would not be considered Gen-X factors.
Excuse me for interrupting the seriousness of this topic! I wouldn’t want to offend your vast knowledge regarding this generational stuff. I know you must have worked hard earning that degree from Google University to be highly qualified in understanding generational differences, at an age of 14 no less!
No no, excuse ME if I offended you! That wasn't meant with any malice at all!
Google University? What's that??
I'm not 14, and I did actually study this stuff a lot.
Well then I apologize for my misjudgment. I took your blunt “it’s not” as taking offense that I offended your generation. And good for you that you’ve actually did study this stuff. We need people with actual knowledge these days on stuff like this so we can correct future generations from becoming butthurt about everything. That way they don’t have to be babied, but can still stand up for what they believe in, in a respectful way and not in forcing others to believe in what they believe in or else they shall perish. We need to teach this generation and future generations that you have to work to get what you want, not to expect someone to hand it to you on a silver platter.
Allow me to share an example of this: I work at a movie theatre of which I will not name. This is my first real work job. I work hard, and I what I need to do in order to make my money. I don’t bit*h and moan about what I have to do, I just get it done. Sure, I have my complaints about certain people and stuff, but I still do what I need to do. I have to either take tickets, clean up after messy people, cook, serve, and sell food, or sell tickets depending on where they need me on said day. I know some people who just whine about everything they need to do, and constantly call out. This puts a strain on the rest of us and it gets annoying. Then they complain about lack of hours, which means lack of payment. Like why would you keep calling out and not doing your job if you need to be paid? Anyway, I work hard and do my job well, and it clearly pays off. I started in October, I’m 17 and still in high school, and I’m on track to becoming a manager within the next few months. I’ve been told by every manager and the General Manager that I am one of the best employees they have working there. I go above and beyond to make sure I get the job done right quickly, efficiently, and thoroughly. I handle customers well, I have good people skills, and people recognize that. Whenever they need me to come in or want me to stay late, I always agree unless I absolutely cannot because of something else I have going on.
Point being, if you put in the work, you get rewarded for going above and beyond. That’s the way my parents raised me. Parents today are telling their children that they don’t need to work for what they want. They hand them anything and everything they ask for. This sets them up for failure in life because then they feel they don’t need to work for their money or to do well in school to get a good job. We need to change that, because they are the ones who will be mooching off those who actually do work hard in life to make a living.
TL;DR: If you work hard and go above and beyond what is expected of you, you will be rewarded. If you don’t work hard and you’re lazy, then you’ve set yourself up for failure.
And yes, this is a computer forum, so enough of me rambling about my life again, for now...
Wow, how did this thread get so off-topic? It's entertaining to watch and I seriously doubt this happens in other forums. First we're talking about SL web browsers, then a day later, the conversation has shifted to the life of @Gamer9430!
It's entertaining to watch and I seriously doubt this happens in other forums. First we're talking about SL web browsers, then a day later, the conversation has shifted to the life of @Gamer9430!
I had a millenial barista once tell me that he respected me because I made my kids order for themselves, rather than me ordering for them.
My son has been giving his own orders since he was 5 and my daughter too. You don't teach independence (which is where I am trying to get them by 18) by doing everything for your kids.
Apparently, this is some sort of thing with millenial or Gen-X parents. Screw that. My kids aren't going to be hanging around my house past 18 solely because they can't do or think for themselves.
My son has been giving his own orders since he was 5 and my daughter too. You don't teach independence (which is where I am trying to get them by 18) by doing everything for your kids.
Apparently, this is some sort of thing with millenial or Gen-X parents. Screw that. My kids aren't going to be hanging around my house past 18 solely because they can't do or think for themselves.
Yeah, your description of Generation Z, at least for me personally, is spot on. But at the same time, I do know many ultra liberal individuals, and still those who get handed everything on a gold platter, even at 17. And their parents are usually on the younger end of the spectrum.
Yes, very much like Drake and Josh, except my theatre is the biggest chain in the world, has 18 different screens, and is the #1 Indian Movie theatre in the world. No joke, Indian people come from all around and even from India to watch either Hindi, Sikh, Tamil, or Telugu movies. They advertise for our specific location in India. Interesting, yes. Fun, not really... Not to insult anyone who is of Indian descent. Anyway, we also have a full food menu and not just popcorn and pretzels. We have hamburgers, chicken, chicken sandwiches, veggie and chicken samosas for the Indian people, churros, pizza...
It’s actually quite funny as I’ve been going to this theatre for all my life. I saw my first movie there, which was Monsters Inc. I’ve been going there for years since seeing many different movies. One time when I was young, I went on a tour of the projector rooms for a birthday party and they were telling us that they don’t use film anymore and it’s all digital on disks and stuff. At the time I thought if it was already on the disks, what was the point of releasing them in the theaters and not straight to home release. I therefore figured that theatre’s would be dying soon because of that. Now it’s I guess 10 years later and I work at the same theatre and it’s anything but dead!
Funny how life works out...
Another story, last year when I went to see Star Wars 7, I was waiting in line for popcorn and a drink forever. Everyone in line was complaining and I was just standing there annoyed at the fact it was taking so long. Looking back now that I work there, it’s funny that I used to get annoyed at waiting so long, and now I have to serve people who were just like me and were annoyed with the long lines. I try to go as fast as I can to speed through the lines, since I know how they feel, missing their expensive movies.
Also, unlike Josh when he becomes a manager, I don’t get a Golden vest
Wow, how did this thread get so off-topic?
What can I say, I have a very interesting life!