Management Shakeup at Google: Larry Page to Replace Eric Schmidt as CEO

[John.B]

I am I the only one who thinks that without strong competitors like Google (and Microsoft), Apple would have no incentive to push the technology frontier forward with their products.

What are you talking about?

The iPhone defined a market. The iPad defined what a market should have been (vs. the stylus-based tablets that came earlier) and then delivered on it. Despite the critics predicting failure at every turn.

Apple pushes themselves. They don't need to look outside for motivation or a template to copy from, they develop their own templates. It's what makes Apple and it's why people line up around the block for new products.

One will steal your personal data, one will steal your kidney. Actually, both will steal your kidney. But only one of them will read your emails while he's doing it.

LOL!

 

[JimEJr]

Jobs & Schmidt Inc. OR 2012?

I saw this coming. As soon as Jobs announced his leave, I knew Schmidt would copy him.

I view this as a rebuke of Schmidt and all the **** he has thrown on the wall to find another revenue stream. Nothing is really sticking.

Obviously with back-to-back reduction in duties by the two CEOs, Steve and Eric, will be having lunch together more often to launch a new joint company to sell more Silly Bandz before the fad has completely faded. OR, they are planning a joint-ticket run for the presidency in 2012!!! LOL

 

[CQd44]

I'm just here enjoying my T-Mobile G2 with gingerbread. I wonder what's next for Android.

 

[John.B]

I'm just here enjoying my T-Mobile G2 with gingerbread. I wonder what's next for Android.

And you're here... Why?

Oh, yeah, because there isn't an http://www.androidrumors.com/

 

[InsanelyApple]

Must've taken a wrong turn in Albuquerque. I thought I went to Macrumors.com not Googlerumors.com. Though seriously, why is this important to an Apple forum.

 

[InsanelyApple]

Google has become the worlds largest Spam generator ... AdSpam is everywhere ... I wish Google would just disappear forever.

Someone needs to create actual search engines again ... Google is so Crooked.

What else would you use?

Bing? No, because that's Microsoft.
Yahoo? No, because it's powered by Bing now.
Ask? No, because they aren't a search engine anymore.
Badiu? No, because no one outside of China has ever heard of it.

Any other search engines I missed?

 

[Burger Thing]

One will steal your personal data, one will steal your kidney. Actually, both will steal your kidney. But only one of them will read your emails while he's doing it.

Ha Ha Ha... Man, that was gross! I have to take a deep look into my soul and probably light up a candle of forgiveness later because I LOLed!

 

[TitanApe]

What else would you use?

Bing? No, because that's Microsoft.
Yahoo? No, because it's powered by Bing now.
Ask? No, because they aren't a search engine anymore.
Badiu? No, because no one outside of China has ever heard of it.

Any other search engines I missed?

http://duckduckgo.com/

http://blekko.com/

 

[InsanelyApple]

http://duckduckgo.com/

http://blekko.com/

Eh, I'll just group those into the search engines no one has ever heard of.

 

[Swift]

Reading Tea Leaves

My immediate reaction was that they demoted Schmidt because he hadn't gotten the deals together to back up the moves. Thus, the Google TV disaster, which failed primarily because none of the commercial deals were together. So everyone blocks the Google TV from playing most of the things people want!

But I don't know. They do say that Schmidt will be in charge of lobbying in Washington, selling out Net Neutrality to Verizon, and swinging deals with Hollywood.

Now, here's a thought, Eric: you want streaming video to be shown in that silly free codec, NOT the one that the studios have invested in. That can already be clad in Flash, if you want to put DRM around it, or given to Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and everyone else, with DRM protection, and with the image preserved quite well, since the rendering all the way from Blu-ray down is done with the same codec, which can also stream in 1080p given a small amount of bandwidth, or all the way down to people's cellphones. Now, are you expecting the film producers to release their movies to something called "WebM"? Why should they? Where's Google's DRM? What are the specs? How soon will you have the improved version done?

No, it shall be "open," that means, controlled by our staff of engineers, not the people the studios have been working with for the last 10 years. Is it better in any way? No, it's just controlled by Google.

I wonder how Eric is going to do sell this deal?

A lot of people think Google is "idealistic." Nothing of the sort. They do "open" in a funny way. They're not Firefox, or Linux, or Ubuntu, or any of the very canny codec engineers who have impacted the real world of open source. Why are you keeping royalties from the clever engineers, and only paying your engineers for making improvements without any meaningful rights to the product they are developing? In fact, in the case of codecs, what's so "evil" about patents, as long as the licensing fees aren't greedy or stupid. Write a significant piece of H.264, and you can buy a house on the ocean. Write a piece of Google's codec and you get to work around the clock and get nice lunches in the cafeteria/playroom.

"Open" is Google's monopolism, wiping out competition with "free" and selling ads that way. Much more closely-held stock than Apple, much fewer stockholders, and the share is over $635 this evening. But that Apple, why, they're MEAN.

 

[JAT]

btw - what exactly does a positive or negative vote stand for in this case? I don't think it can defined definitively.

It never can be.

 

[cumanzor]

To distract us and keep us from whining about hexoblobular screws!

You hit the nail.


wait, what?

 

[SandynJosh]

My immediate reaction was that they demoted Schmidt because he hadn't gotten the deals together to back up the moves. Thus, the Google TV disaster, which failed ...bla, bla, bla...
"Open" is Google's monopolism, wiping out competition with "free" and selling ads that way. Much more closely-held stock than Apple, much fewer stockholders, and the share is over $635 this evening. But that Apple, why, they're MEAN.

I pretty much agree. Some of the things Google is doing remind me of Xerox circa 1970s ... Lots of activity into things that were not relevant to their business model or that they had no road map to market. Too much cash to throw around and no planning. By the late '70s other companies were beginning to eat their lunch.

Apple, also with too much cash, is sticking to their knitting. If Apple has locked up the bulk of small and medium touch sensitive LCD displays, as it seems it has, it won't matter whether Android is better then or as "good as" iOS if the other manufacturers have to buy second-rate resistive displays or pay a premium for whatever they can get.

 

[SandynJosh]

Yep how much more growth will they get with a bit of Mac Love.

Not much in the desktop arena...that market is cold toast. However Apple has a run-away winner with the MBA. The portable computer market is hot and that's where Apple is picking up market share with Macs.

You may be underestimating the "halo effect" of Apple's iDevices. People that didn't have the Apple brand on their radar are now buying Macs because of the association with the iPhone, iPods and iPads.

Mac sales are off the charts presently, but it's an evolution from Windows to OSX, not a revolution.

 

[SandynJosh]

Whats the Ballmer Effect?

Windows 7?
Windows Phone 7?

Both were preceded by a debacle, i.e. Vista and Kin.

The Ballmer effect is "Get it almost right eventually."

The Win7 Phone hit the market two years after the market moved on. Vista is perfect for the desktop market, however it's more of a portable world now and a battery-sipping OS is more acceptable IMHO.

 

[Popeye206]

Direct competitors? Google manages a search engine and Apple is a hardware software company for computers and phones.

It is amazing that a company that offers a free search engine can be so profitable. I hope it is solely due to advertising and not selling personal information. Recent;y google has tried to branch out into areas that are in direct competition to Apple but it doesn't look to be much of a success. Once google regroups and focuses on be a search engine company all will be well.

I'll say this... I'm not sure Google is 100% above board on some of their products. I've been an AdWords customers for years and when I first started using it, I was getting good traffic and paying only about $50 a month in click fees. Now with little changes, I pop in a $100 into my account every other week. And the clicks don't seem to add up, but as you may know, it takes days/weeks to get an email response from anyone about your inquiry and forget trying to get someone on the phone.

It's a good lead generator for us, but I do feel like something is not right and it's almost impossible to dispute.

 

[Popeye206]

So much anti-Google sentiment on this thread...

I am I the only one who thinks that without strong competitors like Google (and Microsoft), Apple would have no incentive to push the technology frontier forward with their products.

If we do end up getting a significantly faster, more useful, higher resolution iPad in the next few months, it will be for one reason only - Android 3.0.

Like it or not, over the next year we are going to see a multitude of Android tablets that will trump the original iPad in terms of tech specs and functionality (UI is a different story).

Apple are then forced into making full use of their first-mover advantage and release a significantly better product - something to beat the upcoming Andriod 3.0 tables, rather than lets-say, an idential iPad with slightly more storage.

Make no mistake - having a strong Google and a strong Microsoft is a good thing for anyone who wants to see Apple technology move forward.

Agreed... also...

I don't see it as Apple vs Google. Apple does not license it's OS or iOS. Google more competes with someone like Microsoft where there is licensing involved.

The phone market is huge and most people change their phones every 2 years. So Android today, Apple or RIM tomorrow. Or visa versa. The point is, it's not a static market. I think Tablets will be the same. People will upgrade every 2-4 years as they evolve.

 

[Dr McKay]

As long as their search engine stays brilliant, I'm happy.

 

[wisty]

I never really liked Eric Schmidt, so I'm happy Larry Page is taking over as CEO.

Hopefully this means better Apple Google relations which in turn means better products for consumers like us.

I wouldn't bet on it. Larry's voice sounds (as far as I can tell from internet videos) almost exactly like Bill Gates. Accent, cadence, tone, I'm not sure what it is.

 

[Mr Bigs]

Yup. Becoming Bloat-Ware. Android will fade quickly with the Verizon iPhone, Win7 phone, and IMO, a resurgence of RIM.

IMO, Android was a good idea that ate at McDonalds 3X per day. Google can't regain control now. It's like Vista.

Yeah Ok keep blowing smoke up your own behind.

 

[John Dillinger]

I pretty much agree. Some of the things Google is doing remind me of Xerox circa 1970s ... Lots of activity into things that were not relevant to their business model or that they had no road map to market. Too much cash to throw around and no planning. By the late '70s other companies were beginning to eat their lunch.

Apple, also with too much cash, is sticking to their knitting. If Apple has locked up the bulk of small and medium touch sensitive LCD displays, as it seems it has, it won't matter whether Android is better then or as "good as" iOS if the other manufacturers have to buy second-rate resistive displays or pay a premium for whatever they can get.

Where do you get your info?

You do realise that the guys who actually manufature the LCDs and displays, i.e.. Sharp, LG, Samsung MAKE ANDROID PHONES

 

[Tailpike1153]

Oh my God! Eric Schmidt is going to be CEO of Apple!

I'll believe it when I see him wearing a black turtleneck and jeans at the WWDC.

 

[Jaro65]

Is it just me, or does that sound like COO, not CEO? Meh, marketers and their copy.

You're absolutely right. Not that most people really care, though.

 

[ten-oak-druid]

I'll say this... I'm not sure Google is 100% above board on some of their products. I've been an AdWords customers for years and when I first started using it, I was getting good traffic and paying only about $50 a month in click fees. Now with little changes, I pop in a $100 into my account every other week. And the clicks don't seem to add up, but as you may know, it takes days/weeks to get an email response from anyone about your inquiry and forget trying to get someone on the phone.

It's a good lead generator for us, but I do feel like something is not right and it's almost impossible to dispute.

There was a case where a guy took them to small claims court and won. Google didn't take it seriously. Then they appealed and got their way. The current judicial and legislative system in this nation is for the corporations first. Anyway the case sounded like it had problems similar to your issues.

 

[foodog]

Seemed like Google was stagnating a bit recently under Schmidt, but that's just me.

Eric Schmidt ran the once, all powerful Novell, into the ground, I guess Google decided to replace him before he does the same to them. The android OS is becoming a fragmented mess. Minus hacking its become the land of phones with no upgrade option, delayed upgrades, various GUI placed on top of the OS by manufactures. The OS is great in concept, the execution is sloppy at best.