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I think most people are a bit harsh to the thread starter. He makes a valid point that these days switching to android can make sense, even for an apple fan.

The once a year update for the iphone is a bit slow compared to the non stop flow of new android phones, and surely many iphone fans are going to switch to an android phone while happily using their imac's and macbooks?
 
this is a troll, but I don't think the op is. It's his right to share his experience and those of us looking at moving away from the iphone appreciate it!

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I, like the original poster, had the 1st gen iPhone since it came out, waiting to upgrade, but none of the newer models seemed worth it to me (the 3g, 3gs). So back in February, I switched to the droid. My main reason in doing so, was that I really wanted a physical keyboard. I never dreamed I steer away from Apple, but I gave it a try. I even paid more money to just do a 1 year contract, in case I didn't like it.

Well... it's just not an iphone. I do like some things it can do, like multitask (and not drop as many calls). But as soon as the new iPhone comes out, I am going to suck up the fee to get out of my contract, and purchase the new iPhone. From the leaked photos, it looks beautiful.

Apple is just superior in design - hardware and software. It just works. My Droid, I feel like i'm using a microsoft product, where it crashes and restarts on it's own from time to time. I briefly tried the palm pre as well, which was a joke.

I'm sorry Mr. Jobs, for heading astray. It won't happen again. I am actually writing this post, from my brand new i7 15" MB pro that arrived today if it's any consolation.
 
If you were on Android you wouldn't need to hack your phone to sync it wirelessly. You could even... Gasp... Send and recieve files via Bluetooth! :eek:
 
My Desire for something else!

24 hours ago, I walked into the local Carphone Warehouseon a whim. My iPhone 3G contract had expired in January and because I had bought the 3GS last summer, on 'Pay As You Go', I knocked my contract down to the iPhone Simplicity.
This suited me and I was willing to fair for the new iPhone (HD?).
So getting back to yesterday, I had a look at the HTC Desire and the Motorola Milestone, both have large screens, 3.7" compared to the iPhones 3.5", both have higher resolution displays and cameras.
They also both happen to run this OS called Android.

Meandering up to the counter I enquire as to what my upgrade possibilities may be, anything is the reply. So I go for the Desire, faster processor, and while it would be nice to try the Moto and it's hardware keyboard, I decide that I will be fine with the latest and greatest from Taiwan.

Upgrading my contract back to £35 per month, for which £30 buys me 600 mins and unlimited texts + the £5 for data. I'm cool with this, why wouldn't I be it's more than I ever got on the proper iPhone tariffs. Nb iPhone £35 gives you just 500 texts.
Better thank that the Desire if Free, all I must do is sign my soul over for another 24 months. No biggie.

By now I guess I should start to talk about the Desire.

The build quality is nice, better than a lot of phones I have owned, but not a tight and tidy as the iphone. The removable back panel is not flush and the whole feel is not as premium as the iPhone, even the 3GS.
The screen has a slightly more tacky, not the cheap sense, feel it isn't as smooth as the iPhone's.

I turn it on and am greeted by a small green HTC logo on that glorious OLED display, there the logo stays for what feels like eternity, probably no longer than my iPhone, then I hear little jingle, sounds polyphonic but it isn't then slowly as though drawn by a child the words 'quietly brilliant' appear. Might I add that this is painfully slow, it really does feel as if the phone is lagging.

Ok I see what you might be thinking, another person bashing of a device he hasn't actually used. Hey I bought one didn't I, that's a step in some direction. Not the right one but, well you get the idea.

Now the phone is fully booted and I see the screen that's on the box, the generic HTC sense over the top of Android. This screen is beautiful, really really rich, almost over saturated colours. The resolution is great, I cannot see individual pixels like I can on the iPhone.
I start to play around with the Desire, speed in opening apps is comparable with the 3GS, but bear in mind that the processor in this thing is a Snapdragon running at 1GHz and it has twice as much RAM, 512MB for you number crunchers.

It handles nicely, the browser is WebKit based like Safari and so it renders websites in much the same way as that other phone I have. My what a difference 800x480 pixels is to 480x320, you can see the whole of a website in portrait. Wanting to see more I double tap and the screen zooms, no lag here, wait has the type just moved around on where I zoomed? Yes, the area is the same as before but the words on the page have moved around, I would show you but alas Android doesn't natively offer a screenshot capability. Ok so I guess I could live with movement of text, no much of an issue.
Entering text in the browser is grande and I'm sure that I can type quicker on this keyboard than I can with my iPhone.
Loading of websites is slower, much slower on the Desire. Scrolling is not kinetic and so feels a tad jerky if trying to find something quickly.

Photos:
Full page in browser
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Zooming on an article
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So moving on, I play around with the home screen options, you get a total of seven screens, which I might add are there whether or not you have stuff on them, within which you can place widgets these range from facebook, twitter and stocks through to a quick access to any setting or application. Apps appear much like they do on the iPhone, a 4x4 grid with ability to move to where ever you wish on any of the screens. On moving, you push and hold like the iPhone, but you can only move to a space that is unoccupied by something else, it does not push the other apps/widgets out of the way like the Cupertino software. A slight inconvenience but something that bugs non-the-less.
It's quite nice to have one+ flick access to a few apps and widgets, almost like the Palm Pre WebOS.

E-mail is a doodle to set up, that is if you use Gmail and the android based email client as apposed to the HTC client. I have found this experience pleasant enough, not as visually sublime as Mail, but still very workable.
Nothing much else to say other than the fact that sending an email from the phone using the Gmail client is very similar to using Gmail online, you reply and it turns up in your Mail on the Mac inbox, a small gripe, as all it means is that I must delete it. I guess it's the way that Gmail deals with it's email threading.

The music player. While I could not load directly from iTunes, I did try Double Twist and this works much the same way. Playing audio from the device is a horrible experience. I'm no audiophile, I listen to music through my iPhone speaker, but the single solitary speaker pumps out the most horrendous abomination to music, I can only liken it to mobile phones of tester year. Loud, yes, but so much distortion it is to me useless. Through the headphone port, the Desire has a built in 3.5mm jack, is much better but whatever sound chip they are using is surpassed by the iPhone.

I have tried to love this phone, it might not seem like it but I have.

The 5 megapixel camera, oh how I love the MP war. I have a couple of comparison shots here.
As you can see the HTC shoots pictures with a large blue persuasion, not natural at all, the iPhone not natural either is less a shock. Night time shots, where higher ISO is necessary, the Desire is actually better, delivering a much nicer photo.
Videos are recorded at the screens native res and look much the same as the 3GS there really isn't anything in it in that regard.
Oh and it has an LED on the back, some call it a flash.

Photos:
iPhone on left, Desire on right
Walking down the street
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Inside night shot
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Out of window
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Using the Desire as an actual phone. According to the person I phoned much better clarity, louder and a much more pleasant experience when compared once more with an iPhone. On my end I could discern no difference, so there is passes with a tie.

Ok so to summarise, I like the screen and the widgets…and that's about it. I would like to love this phone honest I would, it should be great, but the iPhone does the same in a much better and cohesive manner.
If you like Android and are looking to upgrade then the Desire is a fine phone. If you are deciding what to do and you are upgrade eligible please I implore you, wait and see what happens next month.

Some comparison shots:
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Cool I was thinking getting the Desire but got the Legend instead (in UK), I am very pleased with HTC and the HTC Sense. :)
 
Yeah I read the whole OP, which confirms that Android is laggy even with "superior" hardware.
Actually the OP only stated that the lagginess was at boot up. Android's slow boot up has long been noted. The OP stated that the performance was not slow by any stretch.
 
It handles nicely, the browser is WebKit based like Safari and so it renders websites in much the same way as that other phone I have. My what a difference 800x480 pixels is to 480x320, you can see the whole of a website in portrait.

I also like that the entire screen is given over to the browser, although the downside is that it takes an extra tap on the Menu button to get to the Bookmarks or to see the current time.

Wanting to see more I double tap and the screen zooms, no lag here, wait has the type just moved around on where I zoomed? Yes, the area is the same as before but the words on the page have moved around, I would show you but alas Android doesn't natively offer a screenshot capability. Ok so I guess I could live with movement of text, no much of an issue.

That is actually a feature that those of us who've used mobile browsers for the past decade like a lot. It's called text reflow, and it works if columns are set up as free flow on the web page.

On Safari, if you double-tap zoom, it only zooms up as far as the column width will fit on the screen. If the letters are still too small, you have to pinch zoom some more, but then you're stuck with having to scroll back and forth sideways to read each entire text line. Ouch.

On browsers with reflow, you can pinch zoom out as much as you wish to make it readable, and the text reflows to always fit on the visible screen... no annoying side scrolling necessary.

Entering text in the browser is grande and I'm sure that I can type quicker on this keyboard than I can with my iPhone.

My favorite thing about the HTC onscreen keyboards is that the common keyboard alternate characters are always available. For instance, holding down the 'r' key lets me pick '4' from popup alternatives if I wish.

Loading of websites is slower, much slower on the Desire. Scrolling is not kinetic and so feels a tad jerky if trying to find something quickly.

I thought loading was on par if not faster.

Scrolling is kinetic, depending on how slow or fast you flick. Slow = kinetic. Fast = keep going until top/bottom (or you tap).

On Safari, I have to keep flicking (and accidentally hitting links) to get to the bottom of a long page. This can be very aggravating. On the Incredible, I can give an extra big flick and it'll scroll until it hits the end (or until I tap it again). Once you learn it, it's very helpful.

Apps appear much like they do on the iPhone, a 4x4 grid with ability to move to where ever you wish on any of the screens. On moving, you push and hold like the iPhone, but you can only move to a space that is unoccupied by something else, it does not push the other apps/widgets out of the way like the Cupertino software. A slight inconvenience but something that bugs non-the-less.

On the other hand, while moving icons on the iPhone, I hate accidentally dropping it on a screen I already had set up on the iPhone, and it moves a random app to another screen. I can see the benefit of each way.

In any case, thanks so much for the extra work you put into your review!
 
iPhone is Dead (To Me, Anyhow)

Another rant by me...

Anyone care to remind me what the iPhone is? For the last two years, I held it to be the greatest device ever to have been created, and only to get better. But because of Android, I'm getting the impression that all the apps on iPhone can also be used on an iPod Touch. This basically led me to the thought process that getting an iPod Touch (free; with a MBP) would be enough to quench my app needs. The next build of Android (Froyo) comes with built-in tethering, so tethering an iPod Touch would be rather useful. PLUS, the customization of Android (+HTC Sense).

Anyways, I'm probably still gonna end up with iPhone 4, then getting the HTC Desire off-contract for the hell of it.

What say you? Leave thy comment. :D
 
My HTC Desire is being delivered on the 24th. I, can't, wait!

I think it's the first true iPhone killer.
 
My HTC Desire is being delivered on the 24th. I, can't, wait!

I think it's the first true iPhone killer.

What was your reasoning for getting it? And did you have an iPhone prior to this?

And lucky you, I must wait until AT&T gets it, or buy from the good ole Canadians. :D
 
What was your reasoning for getting it? And did you have an iPhone prior to this?

And lucky you, I must wait until AT&T gets it, or buy from the good ole Canadians. :D

Honestly? I prefer the Android browser, comparisons of one friends 3GS and another friends Desire always leaned in the Desire's favour. I have used them, but only own an iPod Touch. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone is awesome, but the HTC is "Quietly Brilliant". :p
 
Hey if built in tethering is what you need, then rock out bro! I dont know why we need to know, but I wish ya the best! Good luck with whatever phone you choose!
 
android looks horrible. i really dont see why people like it. i mean they even emit to hate the swap after also. anyhow some of the things you listed you can do via jb and so much more.
 
adroide looks horrible. i really dont see why people like it. i mean they even emit to hate the swap after also. anyhow some of the things you listed you can do via jb and so much more.

I have an android phone (Actually two). Its not horrible, just not nearly as good as the iPhone OS.
 
Sorry, but I am happy to rant a bit too

I'm on my second iPhone and I just reached the stage when I think that it's immoral for me to have it.

I use a dedicated GPS in the car. I have other iPods/music players without iTunes addiction (I hate itunes). I hardly use most apps now, although at one point, it would be nice to finish GTA.

But most importantly, because the battery sucks, I don't use it as a phone, I'm still using my older Nokia 6300 for making calls.

If I didn't have free mobile internet with mine (O2 PAYG), I would have already sold it.


But the most important factor why I want to sell it is because Apple is really starting to piss me off. I am sick of stupid ties and limitations. If I didn't have a MacBook Pro's worth of software purchased and installed on two Macs, I would already be on a Windows machine, I think. I actually miss Winamp, Total Commander and a decent file management system and matte screens.

For a long time, I was looking forward to the iPad release. Then Apple launched THAT thing for THAT much?! With THOSE limitations?! What the hell?! I think computing should be going towards open and affordable devices. The last few MacBook and MacBook Pro updates were almost insulting and the same applies to the iPhone 3GS/iPod Touch too.



So I think my next Apple purchase will be an iPod Touch with a camera OR NOTHING.
 
I own a blackberry at the moment but have an iPhone for data only. I've had android devices but I like having a physical keyboard.

I think the iPhone is great but I think many are getting bored with it. It's changed in very small increments. When 4.0 comes out I think it'll get some android users to switch back. For me, the iPhone was the cool factor of what it could do but I got quickly annoyed with limitations it held + the network (for my area at least)

Good luck with android, you'll deff. love it. I don't see how you can go wrong with either right now.
 
I've played around with Android and can easily get used to it. But I love what the jailbreaking community has done with the iphone. Without them, apple would lose me a customer.
 
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