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I had it up and running yesterday in my office to try it out - we are getting intermittent 4G testing here in downtown LA and was running between 2.5-3.0 Mbs down on my MBP (1.0 Mbs up capped). This is clearly faster than anything I could get on AT&T 3G using MyWi.

The EVO hotspot is simple to use (although MyWi is just as simple on the iPhone) - the only issue I have had is that for some reason while I got great download speeds on my Macbook Pro and the phone itself, my Wifi iPad was seeing very slow speeds - not sure if there is some issue with the configuration of the Hotspot router or the iPad's wifi radio, but I could not get the same download throughput on my iPad - still trying to work on that.

And as a side note there is some great information in this thread - I would hope we can stop the name-calling and just discuss the comparisons between these two phones, which IMO are by far the 2 best phones on the market - I still have my iPhone 3GS and will probably pick up an iPhone 4 at some point (if for nothing else my wife since she likes her iPhone and it looks a little more girlie ;) ), but so far I'm digging the EVO and the options it has over the existing iOS - wasn't overly impressed by the keynote yesterday but am looking forward to seeing how the new iOS handles.


Ok, thanks for the detailed perspective. I certainly agree with you that these two phones are both great in their own right...can't really go wrong either way, really.


This is so stupid.. its based on the person, someone may prefer the 4.3 inch screen others like a smaller phone, one person likes IOS's simplicity others like androids openness.

people need to grow up its a freaking phone. This is turning into the xbox 360 vs ps3 nonsense.

Yeah, sure. I own a XBox 360 and a PS3, so what does that make me? Oh, right..a consumer.
 
Well said!

"The problem, though, is that most of the iPhone's new features feel like incremental upgrades, not game-changing innovations. Put simply, the new iPhone is a step forward within Apple's world -- but outside of that walled garden, it's still worlds behind."

Oh, you're still here?
 
iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo

Sorry if this was already posted.. i looked a bit and didnt find it.

So what are the differences (the real ones, cause tech specs dont seem to mean much anymore)?

Which do u prefer? Why?
 
How could you overlook this monster thread?

You do not need to repeat Apple fanboy mantra that the specs do not matter. Of course they do. Does it matter to you whether the screen is 4.3" or 3.5" or whether the battery life is 5 or 7 hours?
 
How could you overlook this monster thread?

You do not need to repeat Apple fanboy mantra that the specs do not matter. Of course they do. Does it matter to you whether the screen is 4.3" or 3.5" or whether the battery life is 5 or 7 hours?

um....... not sure how much experience u have with computers but i do approach this from an impartial position. (I love my PC... i had it custom built and i dont plan on leaving it any time soon) Tech specs can only tell you so much but, like clever advertising, they are meant to make you think a certain way about a device that could be very misleading.

Example:
A 10mp camera will not, necessarily, give you a better quality than an 8mp. Because its not all about mp, in quality.

Just because a spec says HD or 1080p does not mean it captures the full 1080p with appropriate fps. Companies will give u what u want to hear but hid the full truth.

One more specific example. My computer, along with other PCs, have better tech specs than almost all of the macbooks.... BUT they perform better... why? Could it be the integration of software and hardware that dont require as much power to communicate as fast or faster than most PCs? Something to think about...

But, you are right in one area. Solid numbers are solid numbers. A 4.5" screen is bigger than a 3.5....... BUT keep in mind, the bigger the screen, the more the pixels have to stretch.


Hope this helped.

Oh... and its rude to jump to conclusions.
 
oh... and i did see that one... but after reading the first few i didnt really see where it was going or, if it ever got to that subject, if it would stay on that subject.
I could have jumped to the end, and for that i am sorry.
 
Check this thread. There you'll find the opinion of those who own HTC Evo.

Its interesting, but it seems very Adroid-Fanboy-ish... one of the first few accused the writer of being a fanboy but his entire opinion screamed fanboy. I wish we could just get a bunch of people with bias opinions on both sides as well as some objective arguments... but alas... this IS MacRumors Forums...
 
i have been using the evo since the release day... its been interesting.

Pros:
1. i actually get reception NOT ONE DROPPED CALL (i live in los angeles)
2. Widgets
3. cheaper plan
4. Home screen, almost gives you a 3d multi layer feel to it.
5. kickstand
6. notification light
7. beautiful screen
8. $7 dollar insurance protection thru sprint
9. multitasking
10. drop down curtain notifier

Cons:
1. keyboard is a major issue... not as good or smooth as iphone
2. lack of apps in android marketplace
3. apps have access to all kinds of personal info and google relies on users to flag malicious apps... no real policing of bad malicious apps.

4. facbook app is awful (im big on facebook)
5. no swipe to delete.
6. not as polished as iOS
7. battery life is lacking
8. power button is the only way to turn on the screen (would be nice to have a home button like on iphone)
9. browser always defaults to mobile sites... gets annoying
10. a little too big
11. itunes sync (you can only drag and drop files)


Im still on the fence... evo or iphone4.... I like the evo and android is a nice change from iphones boring iOS but iOS just seems to do things so smoothly! The only thing that making me consider keeping the evo is that ATT is so AWFUL!!! Im holding on to hope that the new antenna and micro sim will improve iphone4's connectivity.

If you're looking for ease of use I'd go iphone if your going for customizing and are looking for a change from iOS go evo. Either way your getting a great phone!

Hope this helps.
 
Not!
http://blogs.computerworld.com/16281/iphone_4_vs_android?source=rss_blogs

"The problem, though, is that most of the iPhone's new features feel like incremental upgrades, not game-changing innovations. Put simply, the new iPhone is a step forward within Apple's world -- but outside of that walled garden, it's still worlds behind."

Then there's the other important stuff the new iPhone is still lacking:

"• The ability to use your device the way you want -- not the way Steve Jobs thinks you should."

haha, awesome and QFT!
 
Played with the evo today with money in hand to buy it. I just could not get used to the keyboard and the lack of polish. I really wanted to get it. I was looking for an excuse to save money monthly but couldn't pull the trigger. The pinch to zoom was not smooth and fluid like the iPhone nor was the keyboard.
 
Played with my friend's Incredible but not EVO. I think they have Incredible and EVO have same touch sensor and I have to agree that iPhone still has the best multi-touch. I would the say sensor on the incredible is pretty close to the iphone though. I hope the next touch phone from android will be as good.
 
tonie said:
Played with my friend's Incredible but not EVO. I think they have Incredible and EVO have same touch sensor and I have to agree that iPhone still has the best multi-touch. I would the say sensor on the incredible is pretty close to the iphone though. I hope the next touch phone from android will be as good.

I still think the incredible is smoother than the evo. The evo is too stuttery.

I also noticed that weird scrolling effect where it starts slow and then speeds up through the scroll.
 
I still think the incredible is smoother than the evo. The evo is too stuttery.

I also noticed that weird scrolling effect where it starts slow and then speeds up through the scroll.

Suppose to be a feature. I believe HTC should have released this phone with Android 2.2 (Froyo). I tried a hacked Rom on my Evo and it was very responsive, but who knows when Sprint/HTC will push out the update. Hopefully soon, as this phone is suppose to be their "flagship" phone and their best selling.

Other than that, Android has been a great learning experience. It is phone customizing the phone, but sometimes you wish for that polish of iOS4. I encourage anyone to try out Android.
 
Other than that, Android has been a great learning experience. It is phone customizing the phone, but sometimes you wish for that polish of iOS4. I encourage anyone to try out Android.

You have to hand it to apple, they really do produce an excellent and highly polished product. Still I think Android has more things going for it then iOS. The very fact that its open and allows the consumer to make choices is a win.

Then theirs android's app store, no need to bow down at the whim and will of apple to get an app approved. While apple does have a large lead in the app department, I've found nearly everything I needed at the android app store.

True apple's focus on making the iPhone a gaming platform means it has more games, like guitar hero but I'm one of those people who didn't buy a phone as a game console. True Android has games as well, but to be honest that's not my focus.
 
You have to hand it to apple, they really do produce an excellent and highly polished product. Still I think Android has more things going for it then iOS. The very fact that its open and allows the consumer to make choices is a win.

Then theirs android's app store, no need to bow down at the whim and will of apple to get an app approved. While apple does have a large lead in the app department, I've found nearly everything I needed at the android app store.

True apple's focus on making the iPhone a gaming platform means it has more games, like guitar hero but I'm one of those people who didn't buy a phone as a game console. True Android has games as well, but to be honest that's not my focus.

I can't wait to upgrade my iPhone to iOS4 and get an EVO. Then I can use my old iPhone 3G as a gaming console and my EVO as a phone.

For development, I just installed the Android SDK last night! I'm all set. I just have to find an EVO to buy. :p
 
I'm thinking about picking up a Nexus One (ATT version) alongside the iPhone 4. I like to be on the bleeding edge of phone OSes.

Any word on Google releasing another more up to date (hardware wise) Nexus One?
 
I'm thinking about picking up a Nexus One (ATT version) alongside the iPhone 4. I like to be on the bleeding edge of phone OSes.

Any word on Google releasing another more up to date (hardware wise) Nexus One?

No, I doubt Nexus Two will come out any time before fall.

Why not get the N1 and a new version of the iPod Touch? You get wifi hotspot with N1 so there is no point carrying an iPhone 4.
 
Sprint misstated EVO 4G sales, by a lot

Looks like Sprint has to offer a mea culpa with what it reported for its EVO sales.

engadget

"The total number of HTC EVO 4G devices sold on launch day was three times the number of Samsung Instinct and Palm Pre devices sold over their first three days on the market combined."

Looks like it wasn't 3x of the Palm pre but about the same.
 
That does help. I will prob get the iPhone 4 for a few reasons. One. The phone ive been using for almost 2 years is SUCH A PAIN! I want something that i dont have to figure out so much. Also, 225,000 apps doesnt hurt. lol

Also, how long has the Android app store been running? Only because i know the Apple App store had well beyond 50,000 in its first year. Now in celebrating the anniversary of its second year, we have over 225,000. Just and observation.

The android is cool, and the evo does have a very nice screen... but i agree that it DOES seem a bit too big.
 
Here's my comparison:

Apps:
The quantity of apps isn't as important to me as the quality and the readiness of apps. Since apple has a strict approval process, apps tend to be more refined and less buggy and you can feel safe knowing they don't have any access to any of your person information. Regarding readiness, it seems that all the really cool, new idea, type apps come to the iPhone first and then make their way to Android later after its a success. It is hardly the other way around. I personally would like to be on the platform that gets most things first.

Screen
Since the 4.3" screen on the Evo is one of its main selling points, I think that needs to be touched upon as well. The screen is very large and it's very nice to watch videos and browse the web on. I never thought the iPhone screen was small until after playing with an Evo for a while and then pulling out my iPhone. I think the screen is a tad too big though. Sometimes I like to lay in bed and hold the phone above me with one hand and it would be a little too difficult to do with a screen that big. I think an ideal size would be 3.7-4"

The iPhone screen will be of much better quality then the Evo screen. How noticeable will it be? I'm not sure. I guess we will find out on the 24th.


Regarding the OS, there is no real point in touching on that since it is all personal preference. If you haven't already, go try any Android device and see if you like it.
 
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