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Although I've always enjoyed his music only recently I started really appreciating Michael Jackson's work, not only the music but the dancing too.
I an in a Hip Hop class and the teacher is really into old school hip hop (popping, locking...) and MJ was a really big influence in that aspect.
 
Absolutely could not believe my eyes when I opened up news.bbc.co.uk this morning. Stunned. Very sad, poor guy has had a complicated life.

@iVeBeenDrinkin', very nice :rolleyes:

Not as nice as your Vince Vaughn, that's priceless. :rolleyes:

Has everyone forgotten what he did to young boys, or is that all forgiven now that he is dead?
 
Not as nice as your Vince Vaughn, that's priceless. :rolleyes:

Has everyone forgotten what he did to young boys, or is that all forgiven now that he is dead?
Whatever you believe, he was acquitted (for whatever that's worth, I realise it might not be much). Have a little respect, he wasn't just some other useless ubiquitous celeb that are everywhere these days, he was Michael Jackson. Not many people can claim his achievements, no matter what they might have been accused of later in life. Why be bitter now?

Don't know why you're eye-rolling my avatar, it has nothing to do with anything.
 
Not as nice as your Vince Vaughn, that's priceless. :rolleyes:

Has everyone forgotten what he did to young boys, or is that all forgiven now that he is dead?

He will face judgment on that from an higher authority now.

A lot of people here hated his reported actions in later life
(remember despite the controversy it causes, he was never found 'guilty' by a jury of his peers)
but remember his earlier career & music with fondness.
 
Not as nice as your Vince Vaughn, that's priceless. :rolleyes:

Has everyone forgotten what he did to young boys, or is that all forgiven now that he is dead?

You know, when someone dies - there are usually people who mourn. And that includes family, friends - and in the case of individuals such as MJ, his fans or whoever had some kind of connection with his music, or simply memories while growing up.

To go around talking out of your arse about that person when they're dead, is quite disrespectful. Try to be a little sensitive and understand that you're offending the people who grieve. If you have nothing better to contribute, then please be silent.

What he did to kids.. perfect question. With a topic like child molestation- mere suspicion is more than enough to label someone 'guilty' for the rest of their lives. Enough evidence has been unearthed that the families of those boys' had filed false claims in the past. Heck, when you're that rich and that famous people *will* find any reason to sue you and try to get something out of you. All you have to do is find someone's weak spot.

It really amazes me how insensitive people are - heck when SJ got a liver transplant most of the comments were 'Oh he got it cos he's rich!' or about the stocks.

People certainly admire men who are drunk and fight in iron bound cages maiming one another, but find it weird that someone who be childish and never grow up.
 
You know, when someone dies - there are usually people who mourn. And that includes family, friends - and in the case of individuals such as MJ, his fans or whoever had some kind of connection with his music, or simply memories while growing up.

To go around talking out of your arse about that person when they're dead, is quite disrespectful. Try to be a little sensitive and understand that you're offending the people who grieve. If you have nothing better to contribute, then please be silent.

What he did to kids.. perfect question. With a topic like child molestation- mere suspicion is more than enough to label someone 'guilty' for the rest of their lives. Enough evidence has been unearthed that the families of those boys' had filed false claims in the past. Heck, when you're that rich and that famous people *will* find any reason to sue you and try to get something out of you. All you have to do is find someone's weak spot.

It really amazes me how insensitive people are - heck when SJ got a liver transplant most of the comments were 'Oh he got it cos he's rich!' or about the stocks.

People certainly admire men who are drunk and fight in iron bound cages maiming one another, but find it weird that someone who be childish and never grow up.


It amazes me, how many people are mourning him. He was a horrible person and his music was mediocre at best. I would imagine people mourned when Arthur Gary Bishop died too, doesn't mean he didn't deserve it. Then again, he wasn't "the king of pop".
 
It amazes me, how many people are mourning him. He was a horrible person and his music was mediocre at best. I would imagine people mourned when Arthur Gary Bishop died too, doesn't mean he didn't deserve it. Then again, he wasn't "the king of pop".

It's the same as how more than half this country admires Bush even *after* strong evidence that the whole war was a sham.

The fact that so many people are mourning him, means something. So let these mourners mourn and stop trying to ask 'why'.
 
@WinterMute:
I know where you are getting from, but I think you are downplaying his influence a little bit too much. Some people could take that as envy... You are pointing out a little bit too forced that he is actually just a pointless epsiode in music history. If you really wouldn't care about him, you wouldn't be so busy by telling the world that you don't.
I also never got rich or famous with my music and today, with the life experience I have, I am happy that it actually never happened. The life of a star is nothing one has to be jealous of. The price for all the fame and money is too high... as we could see today. I hope I'll get a litte bit older than just 50...
BTW, I was never a big fan of The Beatles either. My father-in-law will never forgive me that... :p

Jeez, I was responding to the comment claiming he'll be remember in a thousand years, it was hyperbole.

I honestly don't underestimate the musical business that was Michael Jackson, and I do recognise how influential his music was and is. I was also railing against the blinding glare of celebrity, clearly not enough however.

I still don't like his music and I found his public and "private" life grotesque.

fwiw I don't like the Beatles either, but again I recognise their importance, I make my living out of the recording business, how could I not appreciate the achievements of MJ and the fab four? However I absolutely will not change my opinion of them.

You notice I haven't mentioned the child related accusations or brought up any of the myriad rumours about his life and ways, this is because it doesn't impact on my life as hard as it clearly does with a lot of the people in this thread.

Some people don't buy Apple, amazing isn't it?
 
Whilst he was bonkers towards the end of his life, Michael Jackson was unquestionably a genuine world-changing one-of-a-kind musical genius.

RIP.
 
It amazes me, how many people are mourning him. He was a horrible person and his music was mediocre at best. I would imagine people mourned when Arthur Gary Bishop died too, doesn't mean he didn't deserve it. Then again, he wasn't "the king of pop".

You've formed an opinion of someone you've never met, based entirely on information you got from the media, which we all know is capable of mistakes, lies and deception. You have no proof that he was guilty of the things he was charged with. A jury saw more evidence than you will ever see, and acquitted him. Was he guilty? I don't know. And neither do you.

If living a life free of mistakes, misdeeds and wrongdoing is a criteria for someone to be mourned and remembered for their accomplishments, then we can't mourn or remember Elvis, John Lennon, George Washington, John F. Kennedy, or anyone else who made a contribution to society. They, like all the rest of us, were NOT perfect!

There are plenty of musicians, actors, politicians, inventors, etc. who I might disapprove of regarding their private lives or moral choices. That doesn't diminish my ability to recognize and honor them for what they do in their chosen profession.

Today is a day to mourn and remember the artist, the musician, the performer. There will be plenty of time in the future for you to go back to bashing him for his alleged, unproven misdeeds.

As a performer, musician and contributor to the world of music, Michael Jackson is worthy of respect. As for his private life, unless you have documented proof of what did or didn't happen, you don't know what you're talking about.

.... but then again, you've been drinkin', so you're not expected to act rationally!
 
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Although I suspect we all deep down knew he was going to go early it's not good when someone who brings pleasure to millions dies at such a young age. However, on the plus side the complete car crash that was his adult life has finally come to a close.

RIP
 
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