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So, mr expert, tell me exactly which records AFTER Thriller had that influence? I can assure you, you cannot.

And let me tell you about a show tour in London. There was an artist from MJ's generation whose 21 nights sold out instantly as well some 2 years as well.

And those concerts were given within 2.5 months. MJ booked nearly a year for twice as many records. And this other artist gave at least 10 after parties, where he jammed with the likes of Elton John and Amy Winehouse. Mind you, after he played for over 2 hours straight. And that other artist gave more concerts since 2000 than MJ would have given since 1997, including those 50 concerts.

There is a immensely more talented musical genius out there. And he's still alive. Enjoy a real musical talent instead of a marketed freakshow.
You really know nothing about what you're talking about.
 
in 2050, no one will care what he did, all they will know is his legend and his music
so say all you want haters, cause it wont matter
 
To save your reputation?

Innocent people don't pay hush money.
Spoken like a person who was never sued.

He was a wacko, there is no denying that, which makes him an easy target for lawsuits. I'd say fifty fifty he was guilty, but not enough to convict.
 
Personally, I think Michael Jackson's genius, wasn't really music, but music and performance. And while many musicians might be quick to point out Quincy Jones role in creating Thriller (and rightly so), they're forgetting MJ's success in the Jackson 5 well before this. Besides it's not hard to see elements of his style echoed in pop music performances today, and artists do credit him for it.

I'm not a pop music fan now, but I can't help smiling when I see kids some twenty years later STILL teaching each other to moonwalk. Freak'n amazing, the man is an icon.
 
To save your reputation?

Innocent people don't pay hush money.

LOL, yes they do. Especially when everyone in the world appears to have already made up their mind. Not to mention if he had gone to court and been proved innocent...people still wouldn't change their already made up mind. So simply paying 20 million vs the dragging the court case out and paying well over 20 million for a possibly not guilty verdict that won't even change most peoples opinions....i can definitely see someone simply settling. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent..cause it's honestly something that I simply can't know since I wasn't there.
 
Amazing the hate and lies (Jackson held his toddler upside down) from so many mean spirited people.

These people don't know anything personally about the man.

As can be seen Michael Jackson was a wonderful person, very much loved by his many real friends and the general public.

These bullies mercilessly criticizing him do so because it makes them feel better, more moral in their own mediocre little lives.
 
I want to buy at iTunes Store just one album of MJ.
Which one?

Essentials, Number Ones or Thriller?
 
You're not recognizing the influence he has had on today's artist though; everyone from Sheryl Crow to Usher to Jay Z has already commented on his legacy in their current works.

Oh this is really too much. Link to video of Sheryl Crow grabbing her balls, moonwalking backwards or squeaking in a high voice to a thick bassline, please, or this influence didn't happen.

World, meet mental illness. It's like "physical" illness, only with a stigma attached to it which blinds onlookers to the qualities of the human suffering from it.

Mental illness, meet nosejob number whateva. Seriously, did you think there was anything deeper behind that facemask he used to sport?

in 2050, no one will care what he did, all they will know is his legend and his music
so say all you want haters, cause it wont matter

In 2050 no one will know or even care that Michael Jackson existed. People are sadly much more fickle than you think.
 
Oh this is really too much. Link to video of Sheryl Crow grabbing her balls, moonwalking backwards or squeaking in a high voice to a thick bassline, please, or this influence didn't happen.

You know there's other ways to inspire someone outside of teaching them the crotch grab. Sheryl Crow was once a backup singer for Michael Jackson. Just because you didn't learn something from him or enjoy his music doesn't mean she didn't. She released her own statement on her friendship with the King of Pop yesterday.

In 2050 no one will know or even care that Michael Jackson existed. People are sadly much more fickle than you think.

There are a lot of artists I didn't grow up listening to because they aren't around but I know who they are. People might not respect MJ in the future on the scale that they do now but his catalog will still be around. Someone will be sampling it in the future. He'll have movies, books, music, etc. saying he was here.

ETA: Oh yeah, here's a link to the video you were looking for. Sheryl Crow singing with (and perhaps learning a thing or two from) Michael Jackson.
 
Is there a point to this? What does this have to do with the King of Child Molestation?

Er.. that was the same family that sued MJ .. duh. Try to read up a bit before asking what's the point. Again, same family that tried to sue George Lopez claiming that he stole $300 from them :rolleyes:
 
You really know nothing about what you're talking about.
Maybe not, but Elton John sure does. And here is what he has to say

JOHN: It's always a disappointment when you want to play with someone like Prince. But I've had the luxury of singing with him twice on stage. So I understand the way he works, the way he thinks. And it's fine with me. I -- you know, I have so much admiration for him. And what he does is -- I think he's, personally, the best entertainer in the world at the moment by far.

KING: Really?

JOHN: ...the greatest musician, the greatest showman. There's no one is in the same league as him.

As said, Prince sold out 21 nights in O2 and actually played in 02. And is still alive and performing more in a year than MJ did in the last 15 years.

MJ may have been an icon, but musically he's an infant compared to Prince, both in quantity and quality.
 
So instead he paid hush money which forever branded him as a kiddie fiddler and probably caused him more stress in his life than if he had gone to court the first time and successfully proven his innocence with no BS. Yeah, that makes sense :rolleyes:

Like I said, the innocent don't cough up 20 mil in hush money regardless of how rich they are.

I think its because you are actually not rich that you cannot understand this concept all too well.
 
It is sad that people don't understand what Michael had gone through since childhood. I admire the man for his music and his performances. I certainly did not like it when he was embattled with allegations, but his weirdness was brought about by is inability to protect himself from media and unforgiving public scrutiny.

His childhood was stolen from him, been under pressure from racist thus he desired to become white, exploited by people who only wanted money (including the plastic surgeons who could have stopped him further going under the knife) and it is so easy for so many of us to judge the guy when he actually had more contributions to world more than any of his detractors.

I am happy he's dead at least the torture stops. May you rest in peace MJ.
 
Maybe not, but Elton John sure does.
If the authoritative opinion on one musician you enjoy is to come from another musician you enjoy, then your argument is sound. However, a man's theatrical performance is judged by his audience, not by fellow actors. A popular musician's merits are not assessed by peer review!

As said, Prince... is still alive and performing more in a year than MJ did in the last 15 years.
And yet Prince, in life, manages to be outshone by MJ in death. So ask yourself: why is it that there has been such an outpouring of admiration for a man who has not done so much in the past decade? Given recent UK coverage of Take That (all members of which are also "still alive", sort of), should I judge that they hold a candle to MJ?

MJ may have been an icon, but musically he's an infant compared to Prince, both in quantity and quality.
Absolutely none of Prince's work has moved me. In quantity he's certainly outdone MJ, and he has composed more of the work he performed, but who cares? What MJ had a hand in producing, he has produced well, and when he performs another's work, he does so with unique flair.
 
Absolutely none of Prince's work has moved me. In quantity he's certainly outdone MJ, and he has composed more of the work he performed, but who cares? What MJ had a hand in producing, he has produced well, and when he performs another's work, he does so with unique flair.

I agree with you on one thing: Prince (or the self-aggrandizing weirdo formerly known as such) is way MORE irrelevant that Jacko, whose pop performances (none of them created by him, of course) at least moved some millions around...I've never understood why some people like his "music"...well, they are both on similar leagues...80s has-beens + excessive vanity + weird personality.
 
Michael Jackson was exploited for his musical genius. His father, the media, plastic surgeons, the society, and mean-spirited people who sue whenever they get a chance. I think the only reason those parents let their kids go to MJ's house is because they can sue after.

I'm not saying I know MJ is innocent, I don't know that, but if I was a parent who would be alarmed enough to sue by, say, the thought of MJ molesting my child, I wouldn't let my kid go to his house?

IMO MJ didn't relish the public scrutiny and media attention we all subjected him to, and created this fantastical property to hide from it all.

I have never listened to MJ's music but many people I know do.
 
Michael Jackson was exploited for his musical genius. His father, the media, plastic surgeons, the society, and mean-spirited people who sue whenever they get a chance. I think the only reason those parents let their kids go to MJ's house is because they can sue after.

I'm not saying I know MJ is innocent, I don't know that, but if I was a parent who would be alarmed enough to sue by, say, the thought of MJ molesting my child, I wouldn't let my kid go to his house?

IMO MJ didn't relish the public scrutiny and media attention we all subjected him to, and created this fantastical property to hide from it all.

I have never listened to MJ's music but many people I know do.

Amen to that. People are easy to point fault on MJ yet they neglect to see the actions of the people who drove a talented kid into his awful predicament, he needed to die just to escape all his worries.
 
Amazon.com reported that 60% of all CDs sold on Thursday were from Michael Jackson. :eek:
 
MJ and beyond

I don't know about 80s has beens. A lot of music today are either samples of an older songs from the 70s and 80s or they are remakes. Don't they make their own music any more?

As for MJ last week I hear a song that used a sample of a song off the Triller album. The name on the song that was used was 'Wanna be startin' somethin' " Now I don't know if this person is in the charts or not, I don't listen to todays music that much. Just when I am in the car. But the point is they used the sample of the music before he died. :/

As for 1050, MJ music will still be around. Just look at Elvis, my god he's been dead for what.... 25-30 years now? And he still has a lot of fans, not to mention that half of them think he's still alive. :eek: I think we will still be hearing MJ in 2050.

Am I big fan? Well, I was when I was 8. But some of his later music didn't appeal to me after 'Dangerous' album. I have the CD 'Invinclble' never opened. (I wonder if I can get some money out of that CD now LOL).

Hugh
 
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