All those PC are not built on Microsofts hardware. Majority of windows users are not using windows 7 because they don't like the changes. You think windows 8 is going to come as a welcomed update? Microsoft is trying to copy Apple they need to be there own company. All the black turtle necks in the world will not make Ballmer Jobs.
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All those PC are not built on Microsofts hardware. Majority of windows users are not using windows 7 because they don't like the changes. You think windows 8 is going to come as a welcomed update? Microsoft is trying to copy Apple they need to be there own company. All the black turtle necks in the world will not make Ballmer Jobs.
Oh yes, absolutely. Now they are crap, not when they were new. That's kinda what I was getting at. I have a ton of old computers, but I don't really use them very much. Because in a computing sense. Newer is better.
The whole PowerPC crowd, I swear to god they see something like a G5, see that its big and shiny with some big heat sinks, then think its still fast
I have an Ultra 5, a full-on 64 bit SPARC CPU, running some god slow clock of 233 mhz, with 128 MB of RAM. But hey, it's SPARC! It has to be faster than the x86 crap right ? Right ? Please let it be so!
(the only thing it had on Intel, even when it was released, wasn't even performance. It was 64 bit. In 1997, 64 bit desktops came from Unix vendors, not Wintel vendors. I retired the poor thing like 2 years ago though, still runs like a champ. But my triple core AMD machine with 16 GB of RAM just runs circle around it as a server. Sorry poor little SPARC machine, in the closet you go).
Realized long ago that this guy really has nothing of value to offer. Used to read him daily.....until I woke up.
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Far more WiFi only models of the iPad are sold so perhaps not such a big issue for most. But I do understand the desire to have the option.
Windows 7 is approaching a half a billion users. Image what the numbers will be when the majority make the change?
Try it again.Edit: After a bit of research, it looks like my half a billion licenses sold is on the low side. There was an earnings report in January of this year that stated that over 525 million licenses had been sold. And they've probably sold a few since then too.
Why would Microsoft want to copy Apple? Even Vista has sold over double the numbers of every Apple operating system combined since the day the company was founded until the present.
http://www.microsoft.com/investor/E...s/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY12/Q2/default.aspx
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It's not looking good.
Five Reasons why Windows 8 Will Be Dead on Arrival
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/five-reasons-why-windows-8-will-be-dead-on-arrival/10275
"Summary: Microsofts Windows 8 and Vista will have several things in common: Both are unwanted operating system updates that will flop in the marketplace."
linux2mac: subtlety is clearly not your strong point. You could work a bit on that.
Steve Ballmer look really suicidal on the Surface video! I think someone showed him the Monkey Ballmer video just before the keynote and he decided to be completly the opposite!
There's some big discussion going on CG websites about the ability to paint, sculpt and model on the surface. The 600dpi digitizer is making people salivate. If the gizmodo article is right and it's pressure sensitive, it's going to be a blast for lot of artists!
Steve Ballmer look really suicidal on the Surface video! I think someone showed him the Monkey Ballmer video just before the keynote and he decided to be completly the opposite!
There's some big discussion going on CG websites about the ability to paint, sculpt and model on the surface. The 600dpi digitizer is making people salivate. If the gizmodo article is right and it's pressure sensitive, it's going to be a blast for lot of artists!
Same linux fanboy that thought it was a great idea to skip windows 7 if you had xp. In other words, an idiot.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/14542/seven_reasons_to_skip_windows_7
Please get it straight, Fan boys/girls may go as far to take a bullet for the Apple name. True mac fans know as Mac Heads, on the other hand are willing to criticize Apple when they have too, and in almost all cases are still using a non-x86 mac exclusively.
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Only way the iPad Pro will sell is if still uses an ARM based cpu. Otherwise, if it went with an x86 cpu, like for example by Intel, it will be a bloated, and using an architecture that should have died when the clock turned 2000.
So what happens when all the PPC Macs in the world quit working in 4-5 years? Are you True Macists going to forego technology from that point on or something?
Heh. True Macists
Ne nos inducas in tentationem
Sed libera nos a fenestrae.
Heh. True Macists
Ne nos inducas in tentationem
Sed libera nos a fenestrae.
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Can't be that insane since the PPC Macs I still use works great for my needs, and there are loads of people in the PPC section that still use it. And I have no brand loyalty to Apple, like some fanboys. I use a Nokia Symbian phone, have a Lenovo Tablet(Android), and a Sony Walkman mp3 player(32gb A series I got off ebay), to go along with an iPad 1, and iPhone.
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Move the iPad of that current generation. Not to mention I plan to use my G5 for at least another 8 years. By then maybe Apple will have gotten to their senses and made the MBA with a proper non-x86 it should have be using all along.
A computer lasting 14 years? Keep the faith, my son.
Okay. I want you to explain why Intel processors are so horrible. Other than some misplaced sense of marketing based loyalty, anyway.
What I foresee:
Longtime Windows users upon experiencing Windows 8 RT:
Corporate users of Windows 8 after being bounced back and forth from Metro to the legacy Windows interface all week:
After a week of that, I expect the phones down in the IT Department will be ringing off the hook with requests to downgrade back to XP.
Longtime Windows users upon experiencing Windows 8 RT:
Corporate users of Windows 8 after being bounced back and forth from Metro to the legacy Windows interface all week:
After a week of that, I expect the phones down in the IT Department will be ringing off the hook with requests to downgrade back to XP.
It took me all of three days to really get the feel for Windows 8, at least to the point where I barely noticed it anymore.
As far as being "bounced back and forth" between the desktop and start menu goes, I only see the new start menu when I want to launch a program I don't have pinned to my taskbar or do a file search. This happens roughly twice a day.
Since you are already running an OS still under development, it's safe to presume you are not the typical end user. In contrast, in enterprise, like many environments, the majority do not like change, even small ones, with few exceptions.
Apple has high end hardware?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE. Apple hardware, specs wise anyway.
Is TOTAL GARBAGE.
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As an owner of 7 PPC Macs, I can tell you two things.
They aren't useful today.
They won't be useful in 8 years.
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Aren't those the same idiots who said Windows 7 woudn't go anywhere because it " was not necessary "....500 million copies later...
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Oh yes, I'm sure your correct.
No wait, you have no clue what your talking about.
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I have computers almost 20 years old. They still work just fine, it doesn't mean they can be useful for anything.
Like garbage PPC Macs, as good as they were back in the day, they are useless crap today
I have SEVEN of them, as of now, only the really high end G4 and high end G5 can still do anything of note. And that will change.
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I have an Ultra 5, a full-on 64 bit SPARC CPU, running some god slow clock of 233 mhz, with 128 MB of RAM. But hey, it's SPARC! It has to be faster than the x86 crap right ? Right ? Please let it be so!
(the only thing it had on Intel, even when it was released, wasn't even performance. It was 64 bit. In 1997, 64 bit desktops came from Unix vendors, not Wintel vendors. I retired the poor thing like 2 years ago though, still runs like a champ. But my triple core AMD machine with 16 GB of RAM just runs circle around it as a server. Sorry poor little SPARC machine, in the closet you go).
My employer GAVE me my old Itanium2 Workstation, Dual Itanium2 Processors, 900mzh. 6gb RAM, Quadro FX5800 series ( I think ), garbage 200gb HDD. Its EPIC ( No it isn't. Its old )
Its not X86, so it must be amazing right? ( its Native 64bit, it won't work about 95% of X86 applications )
This is sorta true. Even the simplest changes can freak out some people, especially when they're not your usual "computer people".
But the desktop is still exactly as it is in Windows 7, and Metro, though different, is about as simple a UI as you can ask for. It's a bunch of big floating tiles after all. As long as the person using it can read, they shouldn't have any trouble finding their programs.
The difference is, a Carburetor has actual advantages
Fuel Injection:
Pros: Easy to tune with a laptop
Allows for easy tuning
Much Better in cold starts
Huge aftermarket
Cons:
Expensive
Can't dump MASSIVE amounts of fuel for a low cost.
Carbs:
Pros:
Cheap
Super Easy to tune
Can Dump massive amounts of fuel into an engine, makes it super popular for budget muscle car builds
Reliable as hell.
Cons:
Hard to tune unless you know whats up
Intel Mac:
Pros:
Faster
Cooler
Quieter
More Compatible with other OS's, such as Windows and Linux
Cons:
....
PowerPC:
Pros:.......
Cons: Everything
Apple has high end hardware?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE. Apple hardware, specs wise anyway.
Is TOTAL GARBAGE.
Eh, I wouldn't say that. They're not the most speced out machines you can get, but that isn't what Apple tries to go for (Mac Pro aside). If you get a Macbook Pro, you're getting the best hardware that can run for X amount of hours on a battery, in a comfortably designed chasis. They try to find a nice middle ground where all the individual components gel well together.
The retina MBP is proof of that. Yeah, you can find a more powerful laptop fairly easily. There's tons to choose from. But you won't get a faster laptop as thin as it is, with a battery that lasts nearly as long.
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I agree, but you're kinda missing the point.
What I was saying that a processor is a processor. As far as they're concerned, all you should care about is how well they run the stuff you need.
Dude guy hates Intel processors because they're not PPC, which is apparently the processors used in "pure" Macs. That's just dumb. When it comes right down to it, they're both doing the same thing, which is processing your bits and bytes. So why prefer one over the other?
Eh, I wouldn't say that. They're not the most speced out machines you can get, but that isn't what Apple tries to go for (Mac Pro aside). If you get a Macbook Pro, you're getting the best hardware that can run for X amount of hours on a battery, in a comfortably designed chasis. They try to find a nice middle ground where all the individual components gel well together.
The retina MBP is proof of that. Yeah, you can find a more powerful laptop fairly easily. There's tons to choose from. But you won't get a faster laptop as thin as it is, with a battery that lasts nearly as long.
Indeed, the Macbook Pro R is a great laptop.
But you need to understand, I always look at devices from what I need. Not what other people need.
For what I do for a living? A Mac Book Pro will fall flat on its face, melt, re assemble itself into a laptop, then melt again. I understand for some people it's awesome. And yeah, that display is amazing
But my Hobby ( gaming ) and my profession ( which deals with a ton of simulation software ), means that I need amounts of ram in the 100+gb range, and I need to anally rape numbers, just to get large simulations to work. So for me, hardware power is everything.
Would I love to carry around a Macbook Air? Rather than an ELEVEN POUND Alienware Laptop? Yes. But as of now. That isn't happening lol.
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I agree, but you're kinda missing the point.
What I was saying that a processor is a processor. As far as they're concerned, all you should care about is how well they run the stuff you need.
Dude guy hates Intel processors because they're not PPC, which is apparently the processors used in "pure" Macs. That's just dumb. When it comes right down to it, they're both doing the same thing, which is processing your bits and bytes. So why prefer one over the other?
I mean c'mon. What is a " pure " Mac?
This might sound totally crazy, but I HATE Macs. despite owning a good number of them. My 2011 iMac being the newest one.
Its super fun to use, and for non work stuff, and non gaming stuff. I gotta admit, its super awesome.
But I don't get what some " Hardcore Mac " fans say that its not a " real Mac " because its a non PPC Processor?!
Its faster, quieter, more versatile, more compatible, more reliable, and just overall better than any PPC Machine I've ever owned.
WHat makes a PPC machine better than an Intel machine? I will NEVER understand this.
Intel really isn't my beef, its more of the x86. Intel is the target because they are the key player in that creposystem. AMD would get it too if they were a head, though they have a decent gpu in the low power end that would be sweet on ARM device.
And my might G5 tower and Powerbook are still churning away hard, and full use, without any issues.
My Performa 5215 still worked after fifteen years. Pity I had to get rid of it the last time I moved.
The Surface RT have 2 usb ports, just like the i5 version. That's pretty cool. You will be able to plug an external HDD to watch your MKV collection, or directly print stuff from the tablet. I can see myself abusing of this quite a lot, especially for movies.