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MS is getting really good at this.



Might want to pay the doctor a visit.

You didn't find 50% of the presenters boring? Meyerson & Nadella are especially guilty of blathering nonsense fluff. Panos as usual was the high point.
 
Indeed, still for mine the epitome of design. Right down to the fact that when they shipped the 20" model, they had to add weight to the base in order for it to hold up the screen - that sacrifice for the sake of design is something Apple has long since lost, with the slimming binge they've been on ever since.

Very, very cool ad and product in this Surface Studio. Crazy price, but if they made that base upgradeable, even fully swappable, that screen looks fantastic and would be a great investment. The way of the future even. I think we can be fairly sure that whatever Macs come when you guys finally get to the 27th, hurry up it is already 9 hours old, it will not have touch, and that is just bizarre to me when looking at this Surface lineup. On the positive, it should run Windows ;)

125.000 ipods in 60 days!!
 
Find 10 people that have owned a touch-screen Windows 10 laptop, tablet, or PC for more than a month if they would be willing to go back to a non-touch enabled device. It is not only useful, it changes the way some of us work and we will never go back.
Never!!! I love my Yoga Pro.
I like my ThinkPad T440S too, but they serve different purposes.
 
Funny how suddenly nobody is complaining about Skylake chips in 2016.
because its not about CPU anymore its about graphics power scree, and battery life.. we are at a point now where CPU's really cant get much faster just more efficient
 
I don't get all the fawning over this. Looks like a miniature pizza box with a monitor on top.

Lets see how the usage reviews are - much like everyone slobbering over the Surface Book until they actually used it and discovered that hinge was an abomination.

I can agree with the reviews comment.

I think this looks fantastic, but it must perform...
 
I respect Microsoft for trying...trying to redefine people's usage, trying to mainstream the idea of tablet/laptop hybrid. Unfortunately they are going to fail at this.

I've seen the Surface and had some experience with it as certain clients have elected to "try" and make it their primary machine. Its terrible as a tablet, it shouldn't even be marketed as such, and all of their efforts to make it portable enough to be a tablet have crippled it as a laptop. And even if you're OK with a device that is a terrible tablet and a mediocre laptop...it still runs Windows, which is such a poor and archaic user experience. For a lot of people, I can see how they can look past the "Windows" part as a negative, because to them its just a necessary gateway to getting full desktop versions of certain professional software like Adobe CS.

Its a very good digital canvas supporting Adobe CS software. Good luck with candy crush on ios--thats a great tablet!
 
It is aimed squarely at the affluent, Apple-buying market, not the build-it-yourself-hardcore-gamer PC market.

Maybe it's just my country being better off, but I wouldn't describe the Apple buying market here as being affluent. I'm certainly not and I have several Apple devices. To me, Apple is middle class these days.
 
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Maybe it's just my country being better off, but I wouldn't describe the Apple buying market here as being affluent. I'm certainly not and I have several Apple devices. To me, Apple is middle class these days.

Apple aims for the low-premium & high-premium markets. Hence the 21.5" iMac, Mac Mini. 27" iMac & Mac Pro are for the people with more cash.

MS is saying with this that they are strictly after the high-premium market. Even Surface Book is in that category.
 
LOL...apple is too funny....and sad.
Im really looking out for Tim's snooze fest party tomorrow. Where The MacBookpro, which have been around on rumorsites for months now, are the only computer related things being introduced now. Same price, little bit better specs and magic band are the things that took them 5 years to make.

They won't introduce new iMacs tomorrow because the surface studio overshadows it.

If Microsoft and Adobe work closely together they would put the final nail in Apple's computer coffin
 
They look similar, but are clearly different. Dunno why people are getting frazzled by someone else's perspective. If you think they look nothing alike, that's entirely up to you and perfectly fine, but to deny that these types of computers don't have any ideas borrowed from Apple is just plain silly.
I'm not sure who these frazzled people are. I was asking you what similarities you see. Pretty simple. Genuinely curious since you've said there were similarities but never stated what those similarities are.
 
Apple aims for the low-premium & high-premium markets. Hence the 21.5" iMac, Mac Mini. 27" iMac & Mac Pro are for the people with more cash.

MS is saying with this that they are strictly after the high-premium market. Even Surface Book is in that category.
Apple aims 'low'? Their offerings are, not their premium prices.
 
Surface Studio aside, this sort of design is what I expect from AIOs these days. Slim screens that strike a defining silhouette (because technology allows for it), with flat bases where most of the computer components rest. AIOs with bulging rears are out of style, IMO.

From The Verge:

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Of course, Apple's own iMac G4 now looks extremely prescient in retrospect:

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My SP4 has pretty much taken over all productivity tasks I used to use my late 2011 MBP for; Office, OneNote+stylus, highly portable. Microsoft lost me to mac back in 2003 when PC, XP & Office 2003 made for a wretched, awful experience. Who'd've thought that company would now have essentially have won me back with killer hardware, software and experience with SP4?

And I seriously WANT a Studio. Have no real need (desktop is SP4 in a dock plus KMM), can't afford one but this the Studio oozes appeal in the way that the Mac Pro and Cinema Display used to appeal. Hopefully Apple can provide a compelling reason to upgrade from the late 2011 MBP I'm writing this on, pretty much a sofa surfing and iTunes library machine now. But Microsoft have and continue to raise the bar on the desktop/productivity space that was Apple's alone not so long ago.

Your move Apple.
 
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As I'm watching MS event (they already have it recorded for those who missed it), in a philosophical way, not being locked in with ecosystem tells me a lot about where/how the visions come about. It's more of "freedom" to expand. I gotta hand it to them. I'm not sure how "ecosystem" MS are...but they definitely are not afraid to move forward.

For Apple, it's more of "beauty than brain" type of company. I guess being locked into the system kinda portrays "insecurity" when it comes to vision. But..this is my opinion. Reaching out to cars goes beyond their core mission...to provide a way to improve work (creativity work/school work/..healthcare).
 
I really really hope that Apple nails it tomorrow and blows the Surface Pro off the planet. But, I really don't expect it. And if Apple does not blow the Surface Pro off the planet, then I hope a lot of people in the audience have the courage to stand up and boo. Either innovate now Apple or face the music. I need to buy computers and I am not buying low end over priced crap just because it has an Apple logo.
 
because its not about CPU anymore its about graphics power scree, and battery life.. we are at a point now where CPU's really cant get much faster just more efficient
The Macrumors forums have been filled to the brim with complaints about Apple not using non-existent Kaby Lake chips.
 
Except that it's not.
I totally respect it if you don't like Windows because you are accustomed to something else (I myself am not at home with Windows either and haven't used it on my computer for years now), but calling it "insecure, crashy garbage" in 2016 is... not even worth a good laugh.
I beg to differ, tell that to the drive I have here and tell that to several people I communicate with on the Darkweb, they'll laugh at you, Windows 10 is the same garbage its always been just with more make up on. In no way am I saying that MacOS is perfect neither, but .... I have more sploits for Windows than any other OS.
 
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I really really hope that Apple nails it tomorrow and blows the Surface Pro off the planet. But, I really don't expect it. And if Apple does not blow the Surface Pro off the planet, then I hope a lot of people in the audience have the courage to stand up and boo. Either innovate now Apple or face the music. I need to buy computers and I am not buying low end over priced crap just because it has an Apple logo.

I agree. Those guys at Apple have to be SCARED, and fear.
 
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