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Microsoft Announces Surface Book i7, Desktop PC 'Surface Studio,' and Windows 10 Creators Update
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Of course not. The target of this are for contracts from firms or solution providers (eg. designer house, etc). No average consumer would be willing to spend $3000 on a desktop, Mac or otherwise.
You're kidding right? Not even close to an iMac clone. I've been a Mac user since day one and always will be but I'll admit this is one awesome machine. $3,000 is a bargain! Compare this to the Wacom 27QHD which is ONLY a monitor that costs $2,800. For $200 bucks more you're getting a full on computer, (plus an extra inch of screen). If you buy the Wacom display you have to pay at least another $500 for a computer.. Also this isn't your everyday desktop. It's marketed towards professionals. I just hope Apple is paying attention to this and comes out with something very similar.
Apple had this coming for a long time. Well done Microsoft.
LOL what? So pushing the mobile SoC to its limit is not innovation because you don't like how iOS look?
Voice of reason. Thank you for this.
Apple has made strategic decisions of what to focus on. The Mac isn't as high a priority as the iPhone or maybe even the iPad. But it is still their daily work computer at the office.
It has taken me a while to accept this from them. I first started figuring it out when I wondered why they quit trying to compete with MS Office. Back before 2013, iWork was an up and coming challenger with regular updates. Now it is an afterthought. Why? Because Apple saw its focus could be better spent by improving other products. They keep iWorks around only as a strategic reserve against the possibility that Microsoft would stop supporting Office for the Mac. (All that is supposition mind you: they haven't come out and said it, but I can't make sense of it any other way).
And the new version of Office (2015) is very useful. MS is back on its game. I am using it to write my debut novel in fact instead of Pages because some essential features like bookmarking were removed and they have never added screen flow on the mobile app. Ah well.
Asus basically creates its own version of iPad Pro, Surface Pro, Macbook, Watch, and iMac. Now they will created the Asus version o Surface Studio.
Yep, pretty much what I just said, just a little more elaborate. I would have to see some footage of how these perform, but I could see myself considering switching to something like this. Going to wait and see what apple shows tomorrow, though my hopes are low.
Edit: High hopes, low expectations
It wasn't and wasn't intended to be. Just like the Mac Pro, it is catering to a niche market.
Pick any of the gorgeous PC hardware out there, for mac users all the hardware beauty and power in the world isn't appealing, why? because it runs Windows, not OSX. Software/platform severely important. Similarly, all the beautiful power of an iPad Pro is useless to many because iOS is just visionless there and Apple continues to restrict and limit its potential.
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Apple are really sleeping at the wheel - despite it being a nod of the original 'Pixar' imac and more modern imacs - why the hell didn't apple think of something like this.
I fear the gist of what you mean by "restricting and limit its potential" is, like many who say the same thing, "make it a desktop operating system on a tablet without stopping to see if that makes sense"
I'm actually far from a Microsoft hater. I've said on this forum and irl many, many times that Office is, far and away, the best set of apps on my iPad and no slouch on Mac either. Windows, however, has lost its way. A mish-mash of confused UI elements, paradigms and multiple preferences scattered across completely different control panels all driven by trying to jam an OS explicitly designed for 20+ years for use by mouse and keyboard into a touch device. Solid as a rock at its core but everything a user actually interacts with is a horror show.
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Here is what Penny Arcade's Gabe had to say:
"Tycho asked me to compare it to my Cintiq, and I told him that drawing on the Cintiq now felt like drawing on a piece of dirty plexiglass hovering over a CRT monitor from 1997."
For reference, when he says "my Cintiq" he talking about the $2500 Wacom Cintiq 27" HD.
https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surface-studio
"Tycho asked me to compare it to my Cintiq, and I told him that drawing on the Cintiq now felt like drawing on a piece of dirty plexiglass hovering over a CRT monitor from 1997."
For reference, when he says "my Cintiq" he talking about the $2500 Wacom Cintiq 27" HD.
https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surface-studio
It's not priced for the average consumer is what I said.
Ohhh so many comments. Ms is getting a lot of attention on a mac site, means their stuff must be good. Usualy there is just a handful of comments with meh meh. Sadly pricey.
Interesting, while I had a few bad experiences with Apple not supporting their products but that was when that other guy was running the stores that was ousted shortly after.
This does not correspond with my experience with windows 8.x or 10. Preferences or settings always appeared on one of two places, control panel or settings. I am just skeptical you have used the os. Its not complicated and is extremely easy to navigate in desktop or tablet mode. It needs more optimization for sleep/wake and power issues
I hope new iMac is something similar to this design (without the touch screen I could care less about that). What I want is a Mac Pro like base with an attached display. Similar to the old iMac G4 design. Use all the single thermal core goodness from the Mac Pro with a higher end video card or 2 in a a new iMac. Of course switch to using the i7 processor.
If Apple really thought about it they could fit an i7-7700k, an AMD RX 480, 4 user accessible ram slots, and a user accessible 3.5 drive bay and SSD blade in the Mac Pro form factor...
If Apple really thought about it they could fit an i7-7700k, an AMD RX 480, 4 user accessible ram slots, and a user accessible 3.5 drive bay and SSD blade in the Mac Pro form factor...
If you use Windows for work 8 hours a day and not just as a glorified game launcher (aka Wintendo) then perhaps you'd feel different. Windows is as always, a death by a thousand pinpricks and coming back to my 5K iMac every day is like taking a breath of fresh air for the very first time.
They may have envisioned something like it and chose not to develop it. This is a niche PC: very valuable to artists and drafters, but of limited value (in terms of bang for buck) for everyday use.
Also, Apple's current philosophy is that touch screens belong on things you can hold in your hand. The Surface Pro does this well enough, but is heavier than an iPad Pro for the same size. There is a tradeoff for the versatilty.
I think Gabe has been inconsistant in some of his assessments, but what struck me in his remarks was how awestruck he was working on the Studio. This gives me hope that the stand is really good.