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I'm not the one you asked, but I can chime in on this.
I work with both Windows and Mac. I hate Windows. I feel ill as soon as I sit at a Windows computer. It's better with W10, but still...

It's hard to say exactly why, but here are some points:
- Everything is overcomplicated on Windows. Like how you create an account.
- Too many question about silly things, that just don't happens on a Mac.
- The OS tries so much to be friendly, but you just hate it. Like "Your desktop seems to contain unused shortcuts, do you want me to clean it up for you?". Never happens on a Mac.
- MacOS is free. Windows costs $, and if you use it in an AD environment it's actually *very* expensive.
- Windows comes in one trillion different variants. MacOS is one.
- Windows need serial numbers.
- You have to care about if you are on 32 bit computer or a 64 bit computer. On a Mac you don't have to care.
- It's easier to drag files and use the dock on a Mac.
- On a Mac you can focus on your work, on Windows you have to think more about the tech.
- Windows is ugly.


All in all it's all about the small details.
MacOS of course have some idiotic things as well, but while Windows have ten of those, MacOS have one.

/IMO and my $0.02
Wow. That's like the most outdated list of gripes I've ever seen. I've got one for you which is in the same vein:

"At least windows has right click!"
 
I'm not the one you asked, but I can chime in on this.
I work with both Windows and Mac. I hate Windows. I feel ill as soon as I sit at a Windows computer. It's better with W10, but still...

It's hard to say exactly why, but here are some points:

I'm going to follow up with each of your points. :)

- Everything is overcomplicated on Windows. Like how you create an account.

I personally don't think it's too hard to create a user account on Windows, it's very similar to OS X from what I remember. In particular with Windows 7. You can create a user account the "complicated way," which gives you more control. But most do it the normal way.

- Too many question about silly things, that just don't happens on a Mac.

Such as? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

- The OS tries so much to be friendly, but you just hate it. Like "Your desktop seems to contain unused shortcuts, do you want me to clean it up for you?". Never happens on a Mac.

I remember this back from the XP days, but I don't remember this happening with Windows 7. Don't have much experience with 10 as of yet.

- MacOS is free. Windows costs $, and if you use it in an AD environment it's actually *very* expensive.

While MacOS is "free" in the App Store, you still need to purchase a Mac. Let's face it, Macs aren't cheap and the cost of the OS is included in the price of the hardware. Back in the day, OS X used to cost around $99 or $129 for the family pack...I think. Then it went down to $20 with Lion or Mountain, then it ended up being free.

- Windows comes in one trillion different variants. MacOS is one.

This is true, but with that comes lower cost options compared to the higher end versions with features some may not need. Most PCs under $500 typically come with Windows 10 Home. This Wikipedia article shows the different versions for Windows 10. While it can be bit confusing, most consumers only have to choose between Home and Professional.

- Windows need serial numbers.

True. But it's a minor annoyance IMO and is only needed once (or whenever you reinstall the OS).

- You have to care about if you are on 32 bit computer or a 64 bit computer. On a Mac you don't have to care.

Unless you have an older computer, most computers nowadays are 64 bit. When customers buy a computer, be it Mac or PC, I don't think they really are aware of the "bit" of the OS. So this would only really affect those who are going to build there own computer.

- It's easier to drag files and use the dock on a Mac.

IMO dragging files around in either Mac or PC is the same. Maybe you can clear this up? The dock is fine, but you can also drag app icons to the taskbar just easily IMO.

- On a Mac you can focus on your work, on Windows you have to think more about the tech.

I'd have to disagree for the most part. In my experience I can focus on my work on both platforms. While it's true that some apps will give you those pop up notifications from time-to-time, I don't feel it's that often enough to effect my work. But that's just me.

- Windows is ugly.

This is an opinion to which you are entitled to.


All in all it's all about the small details.
MacOS of course have some idiotic things as well, but while Windows have ten of those, MacOS have one.

/IMO and my $0.02

Fair enough.

Now to see what the keynote brings in 10 hours. :D
 
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I hope tomorrow’s highlights are more than some videos featuring robots assembling hardware featuring a voiceover of some dude with an English accent saying words like beautiful, innovative, and aluminum.

AlumINIUM...
[doublepost=1477552703][/doublepost]While I am very happy with my recently upgraded 2013 Mac Pro, I am saddened to see so many longtime Mac faithful ready to abandon the platform because of all the silliness that Tim Cook has been focused on since he became CEO. I don't see it as a question of resources, because Apple now spends $10B/year on research and development. Surely, that money could have produced more improvements to the Mac line in the past few years. It's a matter of vision, and Tim Cook's vision is more about pop culture, social justice, and patting ourselves on the back for supposedly changing the world. What he doesn't realize is that the world – or at least Apple's world – is quickly changing.
 
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Honestly, I would prefer the F keys instead of the stupid oled bar. Or a new imac like the surface studio, or a mac pro with nvidia graphics. But no, Apple will give us something else, cause we don't know what we want.
 
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Right now, I get around it using my Windows 7 (as advised by my IT Guy), but the clock is ticking.

Apparently Microsoft has already started to move in:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...mall-business-users-to-windows-10-enterprise/

Going forward, SMBs and larger companies will still have the ability to buy Windows 10 Enterprise and go the SA/device-licensing route, if they so choose, as the Anniversary Update is released starting August 2. But Microsoft also will be offering a new Windows 10 Enterprise option starting September 1 called Windows 10 Enterprise E3.
 
I think one of the most iconic things that distinguishes OSX from Windows: control panel. The more Microsoft tries to hide, dumb down control panel settings, the harder it gets trying to find and change something. Apple also is suffering from this lately, but Microsoft's fundamental GUI incoherence takes it to surreal levels.
 
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Honestly, I would prefer the F keys instead of the stupid oled bar. Or a new imac like the surface studio, or a mac pro with nvidia graphics. But no, Apple will give us something else, cause we don't know what we want.

Have you ever thought about building your own PC? They kicks ass. Get all the exact hardware you want.

How do you stick in an off-the-shelf nVidia GTX 1080 inside a Mac Pro?
 
I think one of the most iconic things that distinguishes OSX from Windows: control panel. The more Microsoft tries to hide, dumb down control panel settings, the harder it gets trying to find and change something. Apple also is suffering from this lately, but Microsoft's fundamental GUI incoherence takes it to surreal levels.

Exactly, drilling down into Windows 10 settings is like an exercise in archeology. You go deep enough and you find yourself in Windows 98.
 
Have you ever thought about building your own PC? They kicks ass. Get all the exact hardware you want.

How do you stick in an off-the-shelf nVidia GTX 1080 inside a Mac Pro?

Yes I did, and I will do it again if Apple fails to come up with a good workstation class computer this year.
 
Can't innovate my ass.


Every Apple fan should applaud this because it is good for the ecosystem to get such amazing competition.

Microsoft has no ecosystem.
Apple has one: Desktop - Laptop - Tablet - Smartphone - Watch - TV - Radio - Store - Cloud.
 
How well would this render a video with 5 or 6 filters over it compared to a MacBook Pro?

The Surface Studio is a combination of a Mac Pro and iMac, somewhere in the middle of those 2 power wise. So way better than a Macbook Pro.
 
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Microsoft has no ecosystem.
Apple has one: Desktop - Laptop - Tablet - Smartphone - Watch - TV - Radio - Store - Cloud.

Microsoft: Desktop - Laptop - Tablet(s) - Multimedia Device (TV, Gaming), Music, Store, Cloud (way beyond anything Apple has even remotely going)

I'd say the ecosystem is exactly where they're the most competitive. Especially cloud services and entertainment.
 
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The Surface Studio is a combination of a Mac Pro and iMac, somewhere in the middle of those 2 power wise.
It isn't a workstation like a MacPro - the Surface Studio has a underpowered (for it's target market of graphics professionals) mobile graphics processor.

It is more of a combination of the iMac and iPad Pro.
 
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It isn't a workstation like a MacPro - the Surface Studio has a underpowered (for it's target market of graphics professionals) mobile graphics processor.

It is more of a combination of the iMac and iPad Pro.

Depends on what you do with it - it's geared at graphics professionals, photographers etc. - it's well balanced for these usage scenarios. It could be faster for video editing, but even for that it should do just fine. Windows 10 is much more lightweight than OS X, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Frankly, the Mac Pro hasn't been updated in eons.
 
These devices are cool but nothing new really. They made a massive touch screen PC with a pen and a cool little knob. That knob could be reverse engineered in about one week by the other tech companies.

Microsoft is on the hard path it should have taken years ago... software and hardware working together, made by the same company. They have a long way to go.

But they are quickly catching up.. glad they are finally seeing the light. Pity they gave up on the one market that actually makes money.. mobile.
 
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The Surface Studio is what the iMac should have become years ago. and it's absolutely beautiful. Sadly, rather like the iMac, it's also horribly underpowered.

Does rather show how Apple have completely lost interest in innovation in the pro sector though. Ive and co should look carefully at the Surface Studio and learn.

Learn what exactly? How to cram in a bunch of features that most people will likely never take advantage of?
 
Yep... it will be interesting to see how Apple responds to this (they responded to Surface w/ the iPad Pro), but it will be TRULY interesting to see if Wacom starts slowly dying.

I can tell you've never used a Wacom before. The hardware may not always be up to par but the drawing experience is unchallenged. As far as I understand, the Studio doesn't even have pen tilt detection.
 
Apparently Microsoft has already started to move in:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...mall-business-users-to-windows-10-enterprise/

Going forward, SMBs and larger companies will still have the ability to buy Windows 10 Enterprise and go the SA/device-licensing route, if they so choose, as the Anniversary Update is released starting August 2. But Microsoft also will be offering a new Windows 10 Enterprise option starting September 1 called Windows 10 Enterprise E3.
ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US.
Or if you prefer Resistance is futile!
MS (Windows), the Borg of the IT world.
Which is exactly why I despise them more and more.
 
I wonder about the ergonomics of what is otherwise a gorgeous surface studio. It seems that in these demos the Surface Studio is very close to the edge of the desk, so that using it "tablet" style is very easy. But in "desktop" mode, when using the keyboard (writing a long document), I think the computer has to be placed far from the edge of the desk, both because of ergonomics and eye comfort (this is a 28" beast). At least this is what works for me. So one would have to pull (push) the computer closer (further) when switching from "desktop" to "tablet" use and viceversa. thoughts?
 
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